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Post by powerfred3k on May 12, 2024 13:02:52 GMT -5
My whole point of this thread was just a few years ago a merch only deal was not even possible and i think that was wrong.
There are right now other retired wrestlers that are signing deals with these newer upstart toy collectible companies and are getting figure made.
Also when retired talents have merch deals and the only merch that is produced are wwe mattel figures, that is pretty much a mattel figure deal.
So anyway if the mods want to lock this up go for it.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 19:31:22 GMT -5
If you're taking Eric Bischoff at his word, I think we can safely lock the thread and move on with our lives. The funny thing is that there is nothing in that particular sentence that is inaccurate. He signed a deal that includes action figures. The action figures are made by Mattel. And there’s 11 months on that contract. Idk why OP cares about the difference between Legend and Nostalgia contracts. Both are offered by WWE and neither are offered by Mattel. Because he said he is not under a legends contract and made no mention of a "Nostalgia" contract or being under one. If its just a merch contract that includes mattel wwe figures in the deal, why can't other people get merch only deals ? What other merch has wwe made with his likeness on it ? I think video game deals are separate.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 19:01:41 GMT -5
voicesinmyhead Flair Forever I am just taking the mans word for it right now. "I signed a deal for action figures, and i think I have 11 months left on that deal." He mentioned mattel several times.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 17:39:35 GMT -5
We have been told by you and bill if a talent has a legends deal only then can mattel make figures of that talent. So if what bischoff is saying is true, he is under some kind of contract/deal that is not a legends contract that allow mattel wwe figures to be made of him. I have been saying off and on for years why can't mattel just sign people to action figure deals, like bischoff is saying he has. You're getting hung up on the term "Legends deal". The premise is if WWE signs them under a merchandise deal which allows for figures then and only then can Mattel release figures of them. This term "Legends deal" has varied recently and we're now seeing the term 'nostalgia' contracts. However the premise remains, the talent have to be SIGNED by WWE to a figure deal for Mattel to release a Figure. Nothing has changed. He said he is not under a legends contract and said nothing about a nostalgia contract. He said he has a deal for video games, and a deal with mattel for action figures. If your going to say he is being not being 100% truthful and he is under 'nostalgia' contract then say that.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 17:28:58 GMT -5
Am i just imagining that for 10 plus years Bill and then Steve have told us that X talent can not have a figure made without a legends deal ? If that has now changed and that is not the case anymore, then great i will drop it. I remember Hercules family saying they would sign a legends deal and wanted a figure made and nothing happened with that.what does this have to do with anything I just thought bischoff is good enough to get an action figure deal with mattel and Hercules surviving family can not get any kind of deal from wwe/mattel and that is very sad.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 17:25:30 GMT -5
That is not a "legends deal" which was the main reason other talents could not have a figure made in the past. "I signed a deal for action figures, and i think I have 11 months left on that deal." Not sure what you’re trying to achieve here honestly but you’re arguing semantics. If a talent has a contract with WWE that allows for action figures we can make figures. Hope that clarifies. We have been told by you and bill if a talent has a legends deal only then can mattel make figures of that talent. So if what bischoff is saying is true, he is under some kind of contract/deal that is not a legends contract that allow mattel wwe figures to be made of him. I have been saying off and on for years why can't mattel just sign people to action figure deals, like bischoff is saying he has.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 17:09:47 GMT -5
For all intents and purposes, Legends contracts don't exist. The language in the deal Bischoff signed most likely references the WWE Nostalgia Program. So no, he probably has no clue what a Legends contract is. But they're the same thing. I don't know why people keep hoping there is greater mystery than there is to who is or isn't likely to get a figure. Bischoff is a really smart man. He's choosing his words very carefully. The underlying question is "how can you remain impartial when critiquing WWE/AEW shows while you are under a WWE contract?" He purposely says he signed a deal with "Mattel" because of the top notch quality of the figures they make. He's avoiding saying that he's under a WWE deal (as Steve has just confirmed) because he wants to be seen as impartial. Reading between the lines - He is saying that he signed the WWE deal because of the top quality Mattel merch that will be put out. And rightfully so! * For my money, the RA Bischoff is damn near perfect.... one of Mattel's best figures to-date. Am i just imagining that for 10 plus years Bill and then Steve have told us that X talent can not have a figure made without a legends deal ? If that has now changed and that is not the case anymore, then great i will drop it. I remember Hercules family saying they would sign a legends deal and wanted a figure made and nothing happened with that.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 16:48:57 GMT -5
Bischoff has a deal with WWE that allows for action figures. Mystery solved. That is not a "legends deal" which was the main reason other talents could not have a figure made in the past. "I signed a deal for action figures, and i think I have 11 months left on that deal."
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 12:35:58 GMT -5
I could be remembering it differently, but I feel like I've also heard that Legends deals are not always identical across the board. I definitely feel like I've heard Steve, etc. say that a Legends deal does not 100% mean available to Mattel. No man we have heard for years and years from bill and steve that (insert wrestling talent name here) can not have a figure made because they are not under a legends deal. If that has changed recently because of the tko merger ok, then say that. That is there only excuse now if bischoff is being honest. I and others have said repeatedly "why can't a person just have a separate deal to have figures made ?" I am not letting mattel off the hook on this one, a lot figures have not been made because of this red tape excuse. Now look they could have done a figure only deal with talents.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 11, 2024 12:20:55 GMT -5
From the man himself, says he is not under a legends deal but separate deals for video games and action figures.
For years the people at mattel have droned on about "if only they where under a legends deal".
So someone is lying here either Bischoff or Mattel. Skip of the 5 min and 8 second mark on the video.
Says he has 11 months left on that deal, so that is pretty specific and lends me to believe him.
Even if mattel only recently sign him to a deal for figures to be made and no one else until that point, it still invalidates people in charge of the wwe mattel team.
I would love for those mattel people to respond to this.
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Post by powerfred3k on Mar 23, 2024 12:21:04 GMT -5
Steve somewhat made it seem like Superstars could end up on Mattel creations. God, I hope so. So ollies getting 20 cases per store and 3rd party sellers getting the product well before walmart is hurting/killing the line ?
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Post by powerfred3k on Mar 20, 2024 11:39:36 GMT -5
Wow ok. So i counted 29 boxes then, (includes the figures on pegs). Anyone who goes to ollies and sees more or the same at other stores post it here so we can gwt an idea of how many of these have been produced. Well ill revise my numbers from 43,500 to 47,000 rounded up. (50k is very likely now) -(based on an additional 17-18 boxes per store, but averaging it out in between the 2 as some stores may be higher volume (29-12 = 17 > /2 = 8.5) So 8.5 boxes x 512 ollies stores = 4352 The problem is mattel and people who work for mattel do not want to acknowledge the problem. If mattel blames themselves they look like an incompetently run company. If they blame walmart then walmart could cut down there shelf space even more as retaliation. So this is the same cycle over and over again with walmart and even target exclusives. I have seen pics of cases of target exclusive legends and ollies as well. I would not bet against rsc and ollies/discount stores getting ruthless aggression figures in stock in the future.
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Post by powerfred3k on Mar 19, 2024 17:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by powerfred3k on Mar 18, 2024 18:23:03 GMT -5
A lot of behind the scenes conversations and hard work. Your feedback never fell on deaf ears. Steve, we appreciate your hard work. I hope to see one day, all exclusives on Mattel Creations website. Could be possible to see a temporary retail exclusive (like now) and then 2-3 months later the wave online on your website? Could be a good trade off for international customers. How about doing a deal with amazon and rsc where all unsold exclusives that walmart, target, etc do not get pay for or get to stores immediately go to them and they can sell ? I highly doubt walmart is going to just magically start doing better. I say just cut the red tape and let amazon and rsc get first dibs right away and not wait 6+ months later. I would think that has to be a better option than stores likes ollies getting 20 cases of superstars and selling them for $4.99 a piece right ?
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 28, 2024 21:49:28 GMT -5
Do you know if other target stores in your area got matched series 8 as well ? Yeah…quite a few of them did. In fact, I found a chase Punk at the Target in Franklin a few days after. No new Unrivaled as of yet. Interested in trade ?
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 26, 2024 13:24:52 GMT -5
They are not easy to find in stores but seem pretty widely available on ebay. After seeing series 2 yesterday and liking the direction of the series, I ordered the whole series 1 today because they seem to be disappearing pretty fast. Well what the heck..... where are we supposed to get these figures? It's like they make figures and new lines, but have no idea or plan where they'll be sold I can't even find main-line Elites in any store around here. What i find really funny is Bill years ago said he was fighting to keep the articulation in basics like 5 plus years ago. Then a few years later mattel finally did it, and made basic worse. Now a few more years later not only did they reverse course, they have made basics better. So even with a recession and inflation they made basics almost elite and the price is about the same. To top it all off they are adding belts in 2-packs and these basic/core figures. So i think its safe to say either basic and 2-pack sales flatlined so much they had to take action, or we where mislead, or both.
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 24, 2024 16:26:53 GMT -5
Found this guy before at WM today! Any chance you would be willing to do a trade ?
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 18, 2024 15:14:54 GMT -5
Found a fresh case of Elite 107 at Walmart on Mason St. in Green Bay this morning. Grabbed the Otis and a Solo. Would have grabbed the Finn and Jade too but the Finn box was torn and the Jade box was too dinged up for my liking so I left them. For basics they had like 5 cases of Basic 141 as well as a couple of the new Lashley/Lesnar & Rousey/Morgan 2 packs and the new Ultimate Reigns. And I'm not an AEW guy but they did have one of everyone from the new set with the ROH Punk and House of Black whichever one that is. The Walmart on Main St. in Green Bay had the Paul/Reigns, HHH/Austin & Styles/Owens 2 packs as well as the new Orton, Rhodes & McIntyre Top Picks basics to go along with some other random basics from mostly series 138. Only elite they had was a lone Queen Zelina. I ended up grabbing a Top Picks Orton & Rhodes as well as the Jacy & Gigi and a chase Shinsuke from Basic 138. Chase aew figures or all regular ones ?
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Post by powerfred3k on Feb 17, 2024 15:13:10 GMT -5
How is this figure even able to be made since punk does not work for aew anymore ?
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