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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 13:52:23 GMT -5
Went to the two night Glory By Honor event. It was a decent show. Some puzzling things though. Bandido, Rush, Dragon Lee, Tony Deppen, Quinn McKay, and Danhausen are all extremely over. Hopefully they do more with Deppen and Danhausen in the future. Then there are people they are pushing hard that aren’t over at all. Flip just doesn’t work as a main event guy, and no one cares. No ones cares about EC3 either. Also, pushing Dak Draper as hard as they are is weird too. He is just generic green big man version #1053. Also people seem to think Taven is done or at the very least hasn’t signed a new contract. His expires 10/1. He was crying after the show and walked around the ring shaking hands with every single fan and thanking them for supporting him and ROH. Also Bobby Fish was there, take that for what it is. Filming vignettes? Visiting friends? I bailed on ROH a while back, but I'd definitely check out some Bobby Fish singles matches. The guy is one of the most underrated wrestlers in modern history.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 13:50:54 GMT -5
I’m really glad Threemendous has more of PWG card. Mystery Vortex running GCW rematches was huge let down for me. I'm interested to see how the crowd reacted to the show, but yeah it defintiely wasn't the most loaded card they've done. lol
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 13:48:04 GMT -5
He's in ROH, so yeah he's basically off the table right now. So Rush in AEW for that battle royal was just a 1-time thing? Wait....I thought we were talking about Rush not Lio Rush. My bad. Regardless, Lio "retired" after his AEW appearance.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 13:46:15 GMT -5
I'm probably going to get heat for this, but right now most of the women's roster belongs on Dark & Elevation. Women's matches have proven to not draw on Dynamite unless it's a high profile main event like Baker/Rosa (that might not have even drew I can't recall). It's just not good right now. It's gotten better, but it's still not where it needs to be. Give the women a great match on Dynamite and Rampage each for the foreseeable future. No more Hirsch, Bunny, Nyla, or Red Velvet (they're banished to Dark). It has to be some combination of Baker/Rosa/Shida/Statlander/Conti/Hayter/Jade either against each other or a squash. Add Deeb to that list when she recovers. Those are the only women I'd trust tv time to right now. That match definitely drew. I don't remember the numbers but I'm pretty sure it was the highpoint of the show. All of Baker's stuff draws big for them. Same with Rosa. There's definitely a women that can benefit from Dark only right now. Allie, Julia Hart (I think she's got great potential, but she's like 19. She's also not officially All Elite but she's clearly at least tier 0'd), Swole, Diamante, Leva when she wrestles. (Diamante is getting closer to being TV ready). I think everyone else is TV ready though. I forgot about J-U-L-I-A before when I counted, but that's like 5/23 that can't really put on a dynamite match capable of keeping viewers. Nothing wrong with them being Dark only either. Lots of the men's roster is like that too. Maybe 1 or 2 dynamite appearances a year and the rest on Dark and that's ok. Tony said it himself, Dark is AEW's version of the performance center. I don't think it's controversial to suggest that, it's a fair take for both genders that there are people that should be sticking to Dark primarily. I disagree with a couple of your choices, but the idea itself isn't really all that controversial. Velvet has put on some really good matches with the right opponents. Hirsch needs the right opponent for TV but again she can deliver with the right people. They both need lots of Dark matches for sure, but they're certainly capable of TV. I know you don't like Hirsch, but she's gotten some decent reactions in the past with the right opponents. She doesn't need to be on dynamite as much as Britt, etc, but she can certainly hold her own in the ring. The women don't need to outdo the men in drawing power right now, they just need to be able to hold their own enough to allow them to grow, which enough of them can to justify more TV time. (If not enough can, the matchups get stale of course and then you're screwed) The frustrating part is they're always going up with their backs to the wall. They get put under a microscope faaaaaar more than the men do, and that's not really debatable. Women's sports have always suffered in comparison to the men's, and it's a load of crap. I'm not a huge basketball person, but I do enjoy it as a sport. I'd much rather watch the WNBA than the NBA right now and it's not close. I just don't think it's a perspective in 2021 to say "I don't like women's wrestling". Not that I'm saying that to you, just in general. If anyone said "I don't like women doctors" they'd be thrown out of the hospital. "I don't like female writers, actresses, etc" equally stupid. It's so refreshing to have an actual conversation about this. lol Those 7/8 women I mentioned are the only ones I'd have win. Giving a spot on the card away to get The Bunny a W is a pretty hard ask. I think the roster will be in a much better place eventually, but I think I'd keep the leash still relatively short.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 12:50:00 GMT -5
I think after last night, we're definitely getting Jurassic Express winning the titles in Chicago. The only reason they lost was because of the interference. So now they can tell the story of the cage being the difference maker, which is what you should be doing with gimmick matches. Plus, Jungle Boy is way too over not to have won a title in AEW to this point. He and Lucha are pure babyface and they've been chasing the Elite guys for awhile now. Doesn't have to be a super long run, but one that definitely needs to be done. Lucha Bros are going to be tied up in the Andrade story imo. Maybe PAC accidentally costs them the 4-way, and then they turn on him and join Andrade at All Out. At which point they make perfect challengers for Jungle Express, potentially taking the titles from them and proving Andrade was right. This is what I thought, surely somethings gonna happen with the Andrade story here. Maybe PAC attacks Andrade backstage before the match, then when it comes to JE vs Lucha Bros, Andrade comes out to attack PAC which distracts PAC and the Lucha Bros end up losing because of it. This would tie into the story and Andrade could say that the Lucha Bros lost because of PAC attacking Andrade? Idk which way else you could do it I wouldn't breakup Death Triangle. I'd prefer Andrade bringing in his own team like (I'll say it again) Vikingo & Black Taurus.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 12:48:39 GMT -5
I'm probably going to get heat for this, but right now most of the women's roster belongs on Dark & Elevation. Women's matches have proven to not draw on Dynamite unless it's a high profile main event like Baker/Rosa (that might not have even drew I can't recall). It's just not good right now. It's gotten better, but it's still not where it needs to be.
Give the women a great match on Dynamite and Rampage each for the foreseeable future. No more Hirsch, Bunny, Nyla, or Red Velvet (they're banished to Dark). It has to be some combination of Baker/Rosa/Shida/Statlander/Conti/Hayter/Jade either against each other or a squash. Add Deeb to that list when she recovers. Those are the only women I'd trust tv time to right now.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 12:41:28 GMT -5
The roster AEW is building is starting to make WWE look like WCW when it comes to the take over. Sting, Jericho, Pentagon Jr, Christian, Omega, CM Punk. Then Bryan and possibly Wyatt... If they added Ibushi and Rush too 🤯🤯 Rush retired didn’t he? He's in ROH, so yeah he's basically off the table right now.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 23, 2021 12:40:16 GMT -5
I'd push the Hangman win to All Out 2022. It sucks because I want it now, but AEW has done a really great job at building hype. Imagine how ravenous the fanbase would be if the journey to Hangman being the champion was well built over the span of 3 years. As far as modern wrestling goes, there are few stories that could be that well built over several years (Naito being the obvious one). I think they could sell out a stadium with Hangman winning the title as the main event.
I would have Omega defend the title successfully against Jericho and MJF in a three way at Grand Slam. Danielson debuts.
Full Gear would be against Darby after Allin beats Punk at All Out. Also on that card, I'd do Danielson vs Punk in a number one contender's match.
In the special TNT event in a huge venue (try and sell 20k+ for a non-ppt event), I'd have Omega beat Danielson or Punk.
At the end of the year, I'd start teasing a rift between Omega and the Bucks (maybe Adam Cole too?!?). Around this time, I'd have Hangman maybe challenge Omega and lose. I'd also be ok if Hangman became number one contender once again to lose that spot to someone else.
EDIT Just realized the Dynamite after Full Gear is in Virginia. That'd be one hell of a championship celebration for Page...
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 22, 2021 18:04:09 GMT -5
Can’t wait to explain to my grandkids how awesome getting to live through all of this was. I’ll show them what the other place attempted to counter CM Punk’s return with under the “WWE Classics” section of the AEW Network. This is one the most ridiculous, and saddest, things I have ever read. That’s not very constructive
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 22, 2021 9:07:26 GMT -5
There’s only so much I can do lmao The influx of complaining is a bummer considering how forking fun this promotion is. It's been a bit more negative than usual lately, but late 2019 and then early pandemic were far more negative than this. That double or nothing 2020 thread was almost constant complaints. We just gotta do our part and not let it ruin the fun. 3 count for life!
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 22:27:05 GMT -5
Lol we filled 18 pages, how is this a death knell? I didn’t want to specify, but it’s not the quantity necessarily of posts but the quality of some of them that has deterred with the influx of a few. just my take. There’s only so much I can do lmao The influx of complaining is a bummer considering how forking fun this promotion is.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 22:25:23 GMT -5
This show does less than a million and they gave us everything they had! Disappointed. Only thing I can think of is the Wight segment may have been a channel changer and those people forgot to tune back? I think it has more to do with what’s going on in Afghanistan. Anytime there’s something really big in the news, AEW takes a hit. I’m confident dvr numbers made up for it. If you look at what got the most viewers, I’m banking on a bounce back this Wednesday. Nothing new.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 17:27:34 GMT -5
Parasite
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 17:26:11 GMT -5
👀 We've got this weird Lance Archer/men of the year thing starting... Maybe Lance invites a friend from his old faction to take them on, say in like 2.5 weeks? I want Suzuki vs Miro RIGHT NOW!
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 14:01:34 GMT -5
Why did edge pour some motor oil on Seth He drinks his milkshake I don’t know what happened on SmackDown, but you had me rolling 🤣
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 13:56:55 GMT -5
The greatest night in all of professional wrestling? Exaggeration much? No doubt it was a cool moment, but not the GREATEST NIGHT in all of the sport. Don’t take it too seriously. Enjoy life.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 6:56:29 GMT -5
I still can’t believe last night was real. Thankfully we have t-shirts and ice cream wrappers to prove it.
I’ve been to countless concerts & sports events and have NEVER heard a crowd that loud. Can’t wait to rewatch it.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 6:53:44 GMT -5
Want a laugh? eBay search CM Punk ice cream wrapper. Man... one of them sold. I’ll sell ya mine! 😉
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 21, 2021 6:51:07 GMT -5
has anyone considered the possibility of lone being the crying fan I was not. lmao
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 20, 2021 20:58:55 GMT -5
THEY’RE PLAYING THE SONG
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