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Post by stinkfaceT on May 6, 2023 20:05:09 GMT -5
I think so nWo ring skirts and ring mat to go with the upcoming nitro ring would have helped for sure. Adding Bischoff would have been cool, but then requires a re work of the nitro ring package. Debut Rey makes sense as an entry level figure even if kinda bland. Maybe give Rey him the WCW cruiserweight belt, even with him not holding it in these tights/time but would have increased the interest. Then you could do announce table with Mongo if they got him signed(worth the effort over Pastamania, imo), or a Mean Gene, sign Michael Buffer to get a figure to complete ring and make people need the stage to get a more complete ring team, and that really could have worked. Iron Mike Tenay, or many other ideas that coulda added the MachoMan type spark for the WCW fan that will still get the ring, but any of these figures help make the stage more of a must have for more reasons/consumers.
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 6, 2023 1:04:49 GMT -5
Vince “back” calling shots, followed by minimal promotion of the project by WWE for the WCW Nitro stage. Seems they won the MNWs all over again, and the coming line will be readily available for the Raw figures… any WCW figures you find will be squashed or riding the benches in warehouses till creative has something for them.
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 6, 2023 0:59:04 GMT -5
I think it’s subject to credit. I got 13%. Paying $33 in interest. Oddly, it showed 13% last night. Tonight showed 25%. 🤷♂️ It was 13% last night and I was able to add two to a cart with 12 month payment. Cleared the cart when I went back to it this afternoon. Then early evening went and decided to back two more. Did one outright and was only able to complete options for 6month option at 25% or pay in four, or full payment but 12month was a “can’t verify your identity” error several times
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 22:55:24 GMT -5
Some international board members have expressed this issue for them not backing a couple times or so, and given thumbs up to my offers to use my address and recent offers to back via payment plan on my card as a middle man. Not one of those 👍 have said they’d like to discuss or messaged to try and sort out details… but they have posted after those times and said they aren’t backing cause of those same issues No disrespect, my man (very good of you to offer 👍) - but it's still a lot of hassle and very risky (on both ends), given the time period involved, the currency rates and shipping costs etc. And at the end of the day, you shouldn't have to offer. Mattel are a multi-billion dollar company - and they can't fix this issue? They're losing out on hundreds - or even thousands - of sets being backed, and seem reluctant to change it (ie. just do it the same way as before/the New Gen set). This thing might have been backed already. Oh I get it from all those angles. The lack of international payment plans sucks and why I said previously is the only group I felt had a reason to be pissed. That said anything I offered to do was hoping as a WCW fan I would want other WCW fans to have this if made and needed alternatives to international backing costs. If it gets produced and I get stuck footing a payment plan that is paid off by the time br]it is in hand it will be worth it for many positive reasons and the financial aspect will be a in the past, nothing but a memory
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 22:02:36 GMT -5
I’m getting drunk later maybe I’ll back a few Back a few now, get drunk as already planned. It gets backed and you realize later on same as most drunk purchases. Doesn’t get backed, you still got drunk and potentially don’t spend too much on any post drinks impulse buys and no extra harm no extra foul
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 21:39:10 GMT -5
I grabbed a few more just in case using shop pay. Had to do it 1 in cart at a time. 2+ in cart wouldn’t work for me. I'm only trying to buy one, so that's not the problem. Well that definitely sucks. I’m not a fan of affirm. PayPal and Klarna both work seamlessly, and I prefer using either the times I’ve done installment purchases online compared to ShopPay/affirm. Another 😔 added to the 👎column
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 21:11:45 GMT -5
Which makes their decision to take the PayPal pay in4 option away even dumber Boy, ain't that the truth. Shop Pay absolutely sucks. I've got 3 Pay in 4s going on PayPal right now, but can't get 1 Shop Pay plan working so I can buy this set from Mattel. It's hard to be positive about this anymore and I just can't do it now. I said I would back it if they put Steiner in the first tier and I had every intention of doing it. But the stupid site won't let me. I'm fed up. I grabbed a few more just in case using shop pay. Had to do it 1 in cart at a time. 2+ in cart wouldn’t work for me.
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 21:08:09 GMT -5
Them not offering a payment plan to international customers didn’t allow me to fund it, I couldn’t come up with nearly $700 without spacing out the payments, plus having time to save Ahh, I feel for you. That sucks man, I think someone here said they'd hold down some for some people across the pond. I'm not sure if that would save you some money or help break the payment. Some international board members have expressed this issue for them not backing a couple times or so, and given thumbs up to my offers to use my address and recent offers to back via payment plan on my card as a middle man. Not one of those 👍 have said they’d like to discuss or messaged to try and sort out details… but they have posted after those times and said they aren’t backing cause of those same issues
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 21:01:57 GMT -5
I'm gonna back at the last minute. Yeah you and countless others. Solid plan
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 20:52:58 GMT -5
I'm gonna back at the last minute. Yeah you and countless others.
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 9:42:10 GMT -5
Looks like the are refunding me now. As there’s a $110 credit being added back to my account today. 😔
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 5, 2023 9:35:55 GMT -5
I have finally backed it, I wasn’t going to because of the nonsense with the international prices and no pay options. But i am a fan of this it looks amazing. Just hope moving forward they actually help international buyers and show us some love. I'm hoping for 1630 more people like you... Final time offer for two sets to be backed for international buyer(s) that would purchase if they had a financing option. I will back here in Philadelphia and ship once in hand to you via a method of your choice. I can do two at the 12 month installment and be pay paled monthly from the overseas member (will ship once hand and payments have all been received along with the shipping costs/method). If you prefer one of the no interest finance options I can do that too but I need the first installment sent in a week or two as to not cut into my own financial wiggle room paying out an extra $100-200 biweekly. 2 extra won’t make a huge difference, but last shot for international customers to get a chance if this does make it somehow to 5k
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Post by stinkfaceT on May 4, 2023 20:27:29 GMT -5
It’s definitely down to crunch time and even with the push in backing this week a real longshot. If I could offer more options or back more sets myself I’d do it just from growing up a giant NWA/WCW fan…. The 12 month payment plan is $43.33 a month for twelve months. $519 with the payment plan interest rate and taxes. Then cover the shipping and taxes to get overseas to y.
I will sign up for 2 sets for the first 2 international fans that would have backed with financing. Agree to send me PayPal each month and shipping from me to you once in hand. Not much, but I’ll back two at the 12 month plan, maybe others would too if it is a suitable option for international folks.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 26, 2023 18:56:43 GMT -5
. [/quote]So your comment had nothing to do with the conversation you quoted, got it. [/quote]
It was in regards to the point you were making, and I was in agreement. You asked what if you can afford it but aren’t backing because you don’t think it’s worth it, to which the first part of my post said- It’s your money, spend it however you’d like. Meant to say it’s not your obligation to buy something just cause someone else is saying otherwise… who cares what Matt Cardona thinks sucks. If he wants it backed he can buy 3000 of them and stop talking about how others spend their own money. Shoulda said it like that instead of assuming it read the way my train of thought was implying. The rest should have been spaced and punctuated differently and wasn’t meant about you, but I see how that was poorly phrased. The remainder of that first bit and the post was in regards to the other stances on why people are deciding to back the project or not and that they only folks that should be saying any particular side sucks if this doesn’t happen are international customers that would but it if they had a financing option, otherwise everyone can make their own choice but have no reason to complain or assign blame to if it isn’t put in production.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 24, 2023 8:06:20 GMT -5
Your money, your decision on how to spend or save it. Once you decide to spend or save the money is where it ends in my mind. Things are only worth what someone is willing to spend for it regardless of the price tag. Suck it up and pay more than you’d like for an item because you want it bad enough and you can’t get it any other way, or keep your money and live with the decision. If I could afford a Lamborghini, I wouldn’t buy one because I don’t think it’s worth the cost based, but if some lucky day I could get one for the price of a Hyundai best believe I would in a blink… but I also wouldn’t complain about the price of a Lamborghini should that magical day never happen. Granted there are other variables to this crowdfunding project that make the choice less straight forward due to how it impacts future projects being made or not. If you can afford to back it and want anything included in the 5000 minimum tier or non of it, but you want the Raw set to be made you should back it. Then either be willing to do the extra leg work of selling off the rest to recoup some of the expense or keep stuff you wouldn’t normally buy because it will result in getting something you do want and wouldn’t be possible otherwise. If you can afford it and only want the higher tier figures and the Raw stage you should back it and also decide to keep the rest or sell items off. If you don’t give a crap about the Raw stage and can afford to back this but don’t want to spend the money despite any level of interest no matter the tier it reaches don’t back it. If you can afford to pay the price up front and don’t want to keep the rest or the hassle of selling the rest to get the figure you want that’s your choice and live with it and keep complaints to yourself. If you are an international buyer same things applies if you can afford it outright, regardless of the overcharges. Up to you to decide what it’s all worth to you monetarily. If you are an international buyer and want it all or just parts of it but can’t manage the full cost outright but fits your budget with a payment plan, complain away cause that sucks and Mattel should do better if they want to be a global company. I believe Klarna started in Sweden, not to mention all the other similar installment based pay apps or whatever you call them. If Mattel isn’t offering because the one offered to Americans doesn’t operate internationally poor form on Mattel for not doing the extra work to contract one that does work anywhere the will ship. If the one available to us is used anywhere else and just isn’t an option that’s even crappier of them. If you can afford the cost that American backers have to pay in full and then pay for the shipping once it’s received from some middle man in America, and customs on delivery per usual you have three weeks to do some leg work on WFigs and send money via something like PayPal that offers some protection if the person doesn’t ship, or go on trust in the reputation of either myself or other members here that have offered to do the extra work of receiving and shipping something to a fellow collector but don’t live with it. If you like any part of something, but not enough to pay the price is part of life when spending money, and everything’s worth is subjective. Bottom line if you can afford it despite the cost but don’t think it’s worth it, and no amount of complaining will get it to a price you find worth paying… so grow up instead of being that kid throwing a tantrum on the floor of the toy aisle. That's a lot of words to say you have no clue what the context of that conversation was. Matt Cardona said we suck if this doesn't get funded and should stop being collectors, the guy I'm responding to said Cardona did not say this (which he knows is incorrect) and cites Cardona saying that if you can't afford it don't buy it on his podcast as what he "actually" said to which I asked about people who can afford it. The reason I asked what about the people who can and aren't is because even if you believe Cardona actually meant to say that, the implication is that his original statement still stands because in reality he still believes that. Now as for the rest of your 50 shades of salt, literally no one has bitched and thrown tantrums harder than supporters of this crowdfund. I've never seen anyone who is critical of it demand people stop participating in discussion, say that people who backed it shouldn't be on the forum, say peoples opinions are invalid because they've backed it, but I've damn sure seen supporters of it say all those things about anyone who disagrees. Hell, just about person who's gotten a ban hammer because of this thread were people who supported it so zealously they attacked people, so miss me with that bullcrap. I’ve read the entire thread and my response wasn’t saying you specifically are complaining about this project. My point was if you can afford it and don’t want it there is no obligation to back it for anyone. But if you can afford it and you want any piece that may be available from this backing or the future chances of the Raw stage you need to evaluate what the worth of any parts of those are to you. If you decide none of that is worth it to you but are still finding reasons to complain about how you can buy it but need more out of the deal that’s a decision one also makes with their money but need to leave it at that cause Mattel already said it’s not changing the breakdown again.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 23, 2023 20:38:13 GMT -5
At what point did he suggest otherwise? He specifically said on the Pod that if you can't afford it, you shouldn't back it. Homie said if this thing doesn't get made we should all stop being collectors. I can afford it, I know Pants can afford it, so what about us who aren't going to back it because we don't think it's worth it? Your money, your decision on how to spend or save it. Once you decide to spend or save the money is where it ends in my mind. Things are only worth what someone is willing to spend for it regardless of the price tag. Suck it up and pay more than you’d like for an item because you want it bad enough and you can’t get it any other way, or keep your money and live with the decision. If I could afford a Lamborghini, I wouldn’t buy one because I don’t think it’s worth the cost based, but if some lucky day I could get one for the price of a Hyundai best believe I would in a blink… but I also wouldn’t complain about the price of a Lamborghini should that magical day never happen. Granted there are other variables to this crowdfunding project that make the choice less straight forward due to how it impacts future projects being made or not. If you can afford to back it and want anything included in the 5000 minimum tier or non of it, but you want the Raw set to be made you should back it. Then either be willing to do the extra leg work of selling off the rest to recoup some of the expense or keep stuff you wouldn’t normally buy because it will result in getting something you do want and wouldn’t be possible otherwise. If you can afford it and only want the higher tier figures and the Raw stage you should back it and also decide to keep the rest or sell items off. If you don’t give a crap about the Raw stage and can afford to back this but don’t want to spend the money despite any level of interest no matter the tier it reaches don’t back it. If you can afford to pay the price up front and don’t want to keep the rest or the hassle of selling the rest to get the figure you want that’s your choice and live with it and keep complaints to yourself. If you are an international buyer same things applies if you can afford it outright, regardless of the overcharges. Up to you to decide what it’s all worth to you monetarily. If you are an international buyer and want it all or just parts of it but can’t manage the full cost outright but fits your budget with a payment plan, complain away cause that sucks and Mattel should do better if they want to be a global company. I believe Klarna started in Sweden, not to mention all the other similar installment based pay apps or whatever you call them. If Mattel isn’t offering because the one offered to Americans doesn’t operate internationally poor form on Mattel for not doing the extra work to contract one that does work anywhere the will ship. If the one available to us is used anywhere else and just isn’t an option that’s even crappier of them. If you can afford the cost that American backers have to pay in full and then pay for the shipping once it’s received from some middle man in America, and customs on delivery per usual you have three weeks to do some leg work on WFigs and send money via something like PayPal that offers some protection if the person doesn’t ship, or go on trust in the reputation of either myself or other members here that have offered to do the extra work of receiving and shipping something to a fellow collector but don’t live with it. If you like any part of something, but not enough to pay the price is part of life when spending money, and everything’s worth is subjective. Bottom line if you can afford it despite the cost but don’t think it’s worth it, and no amount of complaining will get it to a price you find worth paying… so grow up instead of being that kid throwing a tantrum on the floor of the toy aisle.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 18, 2023 10:31:58 GMT -5
My calculation was actually a little different, I have it at a £124 overcharge give or take, not £32. This was another user's calculation. That's the thing... why can't Mattel actually show us the price breakdown? It's really not much to ask. All they've said is the £500 includes a £60 shipping surcharge (fair enough) and that the price includes "duty and tax". But it just doesn't add up... for anyone. Want one, PayPal the$430 something to me and pay for it to be shipped to you by method of your choosing once it arrives and I’ll order in the states without the currency or tax differences. My number of £32 was based on said users calculation. Entire collection price difference was my mistake and poor wording. Still applies to anything you’d purchase that is large, heavy, and $400 to be shipped to you. All I can do is offer to take extra trips to the post office if people want to PayPal for it and have protection of refund if you fear I won’t ship on arrival.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 18, 2023 0:02:19 GMT -5
Jonny Flashback in that case, it cost me $431.37 to have sent to Philadelphia. If you want to PayPal or something that amount and pay for shipping via method of your choosing from Philadelphia to you I’d receive and ship to you, especially if you backed multiples.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 17, 2023 22:57:31 GMT -5
I can’t see not backing this if it was another $40 here in the states. It’s sucks there aren’t the finance options for international buyers, but if you actually want the stage will you let £32 stop you getting a chance at it? It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is ing awesome My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US.
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 16, 2023 18:54:09 GMT -5
I dreamt that I backed this stage and shortly after, I became a drug addict. What does this mean!? Dreaming of all those nitro stage LEDs had you feeling like you were in the club…
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