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Post by jjkotm on Sept 27, 2008 23:25:19 GMT -5
Honestly, it's at an all-time low. No knock on Bashir and Creed, but they aren't exaclty Styles and Daniels, or even Lethal and Dutt. You don't even have to be of mid-card status to be a contender for this title anymore. I really feel like now more than ever that TNA should make this belt into a belt for heavyweights as well. I know the belt has "no limits" but they aren't actually going to have heavyweights go for it. They should really make it into a TV title of sorts. It would benefit guys like Abyss or Robert Roode (when alone) to hold it. Thoughts?
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Post by mattoriginal on Sept 27, 2008 23:28:00 GMT -5
Actually, don't rename, or make it a TV title. The X-Division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits. So why not have Abyss, Roode, or some other talented heavyweight the belt? I mean, it worked for Joe. And if they could get Claudio, he could easily be a top contender.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 27, 2008 23:29:58 GMT -5
Actually, don't rename, or make it a TV title. The X-Division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits. So why not have Abyss, Roode, or some other talented heavyweight the belt? I mean, it worked for Joe. And if they could get Claudio, he could easily be a top contender. joe was a little more diverse as a wrestler that's why it worked. also the series with him, styles, & daniels were classic. |
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Post by mattoriginal on Sept 27, 2008 23:34:46 GMT -5
Actually, don't rename, or make it a TV title. The X-Division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits. So why not have Abyss, Roode, or some other talented heavyweight the belt? I mean, it worked for Joe. And if they could get Claudio, he could easily be a top contender. joe was a little more diverse as a wrestler that's why it worked. also the series with him, styles, & daniels were classic. And Roode isn't a diverse wrestler in his own right? |
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 27, 2008 23:37:00 GMT -5
Actually, don't rename, or make it a TV title. The X-Division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits. So why not have Abyss, Roode, or some other talented heavyweight the belt? I mean, it worked for Joe. And if they could get Claudio, he could easily be a top contender. Because Joe wrestled a style that is similar to the other x-division wrestlers. Someone like Robert Roode does not. Regardless, the title in its current state is horrible. And there are so many guys like Rhino, Kip James, Abyss, etc that could benefit from a change. |
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 27, 2008 23:38:03 GMT -5
joe was a little more diverse as a wrestler that's why it worked. also the series with him, styles, & daniels were classic. And Roode isn't a diverse wrestler in his own right? to me roode is a solid technical wrestler. i don't see him as part of the mix. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 27, 2008 23:40:01 GMT -5
Honestly, Creed & Bashir haven't been given the chance(s) to live up to expecations but look at Petey/Creed's 3 or 4 matches - they was very good. That could've been a very solid series of matches with Petey & Creed exchanging wins (Creed in non-titles). It could've also been used to open eyes for Creed like "This guy can have with the best in Petey" and then have the big "pay off" with Creed winning the strap at the "big one".
They've got the talent - they just need to give 'em the chance to have these "OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME" matches imo.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 27, 2008 23:40:58 GMT -5
Honestly, Creed & Bashir haven't been given the chance(s) to live up to expecations but look at Petey/Creed's 3 or 4 matches - they was very good. That could've been a very solid series of matches with Petey & Creed exchanging wins (Creed in non-titles). It could've also been used to open eyes for Creed like "This guy can have with the best in Petey" and then have the big "pay off" with Creed winning the strap at the "big one". They've got the talent - they just need to give 'em the chance to have these "OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME" matches imo. i just can't get into them for some reason having been spoiled by the x division jaw droppers of the early days. |
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 27, 2008 23:43:37 GMT -5
Actually, don't rename, or make it a TV title. The X-Division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits. So why not have Abyss, Roode, or some other talented heavyweight the belt? I mean, it worked for Joe. And if they could get Claudio, he could easily be a top contender. Because Joe wrestled a style that is similar to the other x-division wrestlers. Someone like Robert Roode does not. Regardless, the title in its current state is horrible. And there are so many guys like Rhino, Kip James, Abyss, etc that could benefit from a change. exactly. that was the point i was trying to make. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 27, 2008 23:44:37 GMT -5
Because Joe wrestled a style that is similar to the other x-division wrestlers. Someone like Robert Roode does not. Regardless, the title in its current state is horrible. And there are so many guys like Rhino, Kip James, Abyss, etc that could benefit from a change. exactly. that was the point i was trying to make. I know whatcha mean. I've seen all the weekkly PPVs from 2002 but I'm still some how able to get into it. It might be because I'm such a mark for Creed though. |
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 27, 2008 23:47:34 GMT -5
exactly. that was the point i was trying to make. I know whatcha mean. I've seen all the weekkly PPVs from 2002 but I'm still some how able to get into it. It might be because I'm such a mark for Creed though. i hear ya. still prefer nashville tho. |
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Post by Heresy on Sept 27, 2008 23:58:39 GMT -5
Actually, don't rename, or make it a TV title. The X-Division isn't about weight limits, it's about no limits. So why not have Abyss, Roode, or some other talented heavyweight the belt? I mean, it worked for Joe. And if they could get Claudio, he could easily be a top contender. Because Joe wrestled a style that is similar to the other x-division wrestlers. Someone like Robert Roode does not. Regardless, the title in its current state is horrible. And there are so many guys like Rhino, Kip James, Abyss, etc that could benefit from a change. Yeah, Rhino and Kip James really need a title. The X-division is the only thing alternative about TNA at this point, no matter how horrible its current condition. It has a ton of history with the company and it would be igorant if they junked it when it can easily be revamped. The X-division and tag titles should be the next step to the World title. If you don't belong in the X-division, you go for tag gold and build yourself into a main event contender that way. It's what TNA looks to be doing with Storm, Roode, Hernandez, and Morgan. They just need to bring the X-division back up to it's prior level of intensity and match quality... the problem is Creed and Bashir aren't the guys to achieve this. |
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 28, 2008 0:01:58 GMT -5
Because Joe wrestled a style that is similar to the other x-division wrestlers. Someone like Robert Roode does not. Regardless, the title in its current state is horrible. And there are so many guys like Rhino, Kip James, Abyss, etc that could benefit from a change. Yeah, Rhino and Kip James really need a title. The X-division is the only thing alternative about TNA at this point, no matter how horrible its current condition. It has a ton of history with the company and it would be igorant if they junked it when it can easily be revamped. The X-division and tag titles should be the next step to the World title. If you don't belong in the X-division, you go for tag gold and build yourself into a main event contender that way. It's what TNA looks to be doing with Storm, Roode, Hernandez, and Morgan. They just need to bring the X-division back up to it's prior level of intensity and match quality... the problem is Creed and Bashir aren't the guys to achieve this. i agree they need to get back to what made them innovative and fresh in the early days. question is how does TNA acheive this? |
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 28, 2008 0:04:58 GMT -5
Yeah, Rhino and Kip James really need a title. The X-division is the only thing alternative about TNA at this point, no matter how horrible its current condition. It has a ton of history with the company and it would be igorant if they junked it when it can easily be revamped. The X-division and tag titles should be the next step to the World title. If you don't belong in the X-division, you go for tag gold and build yourself into a main event contender that way. It's what TNA looks to be doing with Storm, Roode, Hernandez, and Morgan. They just need to bring the X-division back up to it's prior level of intensity and match quality... the problem is Creed and Bashir aren't the guys to achieve this. i agree they need to get back to what made them innovative and fresh in the early days. question is how does TNA acheive this? Breaking up the Prince Justice Idiots would help for one to get Christopher Daniels back. Then have Daniels, Petey, Lethal, and Dutt be in the title hunt. Then when Kaz comes back, have him in it. Heck, throw in Suicide once he debuts if he is x-division style. |
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 28, 2008 0:08:56 GMT -5
Don't break 'em up - just have Curry Man break away from them. Have the feud with RNR keep going and have Curry vs. Rave/Hoyt in "Mask vs. Hair" - Daniels loses and that brings Daniels back.  |
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Sept 28, 2008 0:16:23 GMT -5
Don't break 'em up - just have Curry Man break away from them. Have the feud with RNR keep going and have Curry vs. Rave/Hoyt in "Mask vs. Hair" - Daniels loses and that brings Daniels back. i'd go with that. |
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Post by King Silva on Sept 28, 2008 0:52:28 GMT -5
I can't believe that TNA has what should be their "most exciting" belt contested, at their WM, between two retards.
I mean Davari sucks and that is being nice!
Creed is okay but not good enough for tna's WM equivalent.
Hopefully creed does win since he is way better than davari.
Hopefully tna gets its craptogether.
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 28, 2008 0:59:10 GMT -5
I can't believe that TNA has what should be their "most exciting" belt contested, at their WM, between two retards. I mean Davari sucks and that is being nice! Creed is okay but not good enough for tna's WM equivalent. Hopefully creed does win since he is way better than davari. Hopefully tna gets its **** together. What are you talking about? Bashir's talented and so is Creed. And they're not even in a match for BFG yet. |
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Post by foleyesgod on Sept 28, 2008 0:59:44 GMT -5
It isnt the same as it used to be.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 28, 2008 1:20:26 GMT -5
I can't believe that TNA has what should be their "most exciting" belt contested, at their WM, between two retards. I mean Davari sucks and that is being nice! Creed is okay but not good enough for tna's WM equivalent. Hopefully creed does win since he is way better than davari. Hopefully tna gets its **** together. What are you talking about? Bashir's talented and so is Creed. And they're not even in a match for BFG yet. I guess you don't read the spoilers or can't predict for anything.. * TNA X Division Title Match: Sheik Bashir vs. Consequences CreedFrom prowrestling.com Hopefully it is not a crapfest. |
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