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Post by Hollywood Asia on Feb 14, 2008 3:13:57 GMT -5
They are turning the same profit now that they did back then...
NONE
You act as if they are making money when they spend more...
The buyrates for the PPV's have even gotten lower despite the STAR POWER, GREAT CHARACHTERS, AWESOME STORYLINES Etc. Etc.
Facts > Opinions
These buyrates and financial situation are facts, you sweeping all of TNA's nonsense under the rug with biased comments are opinions.
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Post by deskjet on Feb 14, 2008 7:54:07 GMT -5
If you think TNA is the same now then in was in 2005 your thinking just like the fools who book this garbage now thus why nothing changes and rating and buyrates are the same or lower. - TNA had much better wrestling and feuds which people gave a ****. - The Wrestlers people gave a **** about weren't booked like fools and every impact wasn't packed with backstage lame comedy. - The Roster albeit not as star studded were def better workers in the ring thus better matches regardless of who was in it - The X- Division was actually attracting viewers because they weren't booked like fools but like athletes. - PPV buyrates were on the rise unlike now where they don't improve but manage to get lower or stay the same despite TNA throwing everything out there. The only thing I hate about then was Jarrett as the World Champion and anything to do with him, beside that TNA wasn't bad and 1000x better than now.. That's your opinion that people actually gave a "shyt" about the feuds. Half the restlers or TNA even for taht matter wasnt even that well known. PPV buyrates were on the rise then because they were cheaper and done every other months. Most wrestling fans would prob choose a wwe ppv over a TNA ppv back then. as they still do...that's just the game they are in. You keep saying wrestlers being booked liked fools. I dont see Aj styles, Machismo, Kaz, etc workrates in the ring getting worse becasue "they're booked Like fools" Again it seems we have two persepectives here...one that sees TNA as a glorifeid indy fed and one that sees TNA as A Sports entertainment hybrid. Yu and others throw around how much money TNA is losing yet I see no report to back these claims. If TNA has no money then how are they able to sign wrestlers and extend contracts. Again, people dont keep in mind TNA only has Two hours to work with to try to appeal to everyone. If it was 3 30 minute x divsion matches every week then people would gripe about that. There has been more about TNA to gripe about in the past, but there current state I dont believe warrants the same reaction. Although a handful of people on here see something wrong with the product, consistent ratings and increases which account for ohhhh 100 thousnad people per point seem to see something they like. Because 10-20 people come on a board and clamor for the old days and jump on and off the TNA band wagaon, r complain abot TNA because it's the "cool" thing to do now, doesnt mean the products bad. I wish some people would have a broder perspective. I see TNA for what it is, and what they are trying to accomplish not for what I personally want them to do.
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Post by techn9ne77 on Feb 14, 2008 10:13:39 GMT -5
Still on this sh*t?
Look, there are people on here that don't like TNA's new direction and there are people that for some odd reason do. There is no amount of biased reporting or opinions from the very small few of TNA diehards on here (or any other forum) that is going to change my mind. You can come into every thread and say "well, WWE does this and that". I don't give a f*ck, I'm not worried about WWE. They're a global company that brings in millions of dollars and have been around for several decades. In fact, f*ck the WWE. TNA needs to worry about their own situations.
Anyhow, the main point of all this is people can sit here all day and tell me about "bitchin" and "griping" and I'm gonna still have my opinion on TNA in the present. Apparently so are 90% of the rest of the people on this board and pretty much all over the internet. I know all the dedication I HAD for TNA. I don't know many people that would drive 15 hours to Orlando to go to an Impact taping at Universal Studios. I did. Me and my wrestling buddies trying to start "TNA" chants at Hooters in front of a bunch of WWE marks during PPVs because I couldn't believe they thought what they were seeing was so great when TNA was putting on matches 10x better. So if you like it, great. Every Thursday, hop in front of your TV with your faded James Gang shirt and watch the sh*t. But face it, nobody is going to change the other's perspective of TNA. And don't give me that "you guys constantly start threads bashing TNA". I started a few threads that had nothing to do with that and these same people didn't touch those. But the minute something negative is said about TNA, boy, they're there in a heartbeat (not heat beat, looking at you Lewie). So blame yourselves for allowing the "bitchin and gripin" to go three and four threads long b/c you're contributing to it also.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Feb 14, 2008 11:11:15 GMT -5
Who said TNA had no money?
I said they are losing Money.
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Post by Heresy on Feb 14, 2008 11:54:06 GMT -5
TNA was gaining popularity as a "glorified indy fed." That's what brought them to the game in the first place... not Kurt Angle, Booker T, a bunch of backstage segments, or comedy overkill. And yeah, TNA should change over time... but changing into Wrestlecrap central wasn't the favorable direction.
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Post by Daz on Feb 14, 2008 16:16:04 GMT -5
It just blows me away how so many people dislike TNA but continue to watch it every week. Makes me seriously wonder what indeed some of you do watch the product for. oh and for the record. I pulled out some old TNA tapes today..2005 to be exact and it's far from better than it is today. Today's TNA's characters are much more recognizable making the product more marketable. I also recall during 2003-2005 all people did was bitch about how Jeff Jarret won the title all the time...now people want him back. Like I've said time and again. no one will ever be completely happy. You gotta take the good with the bad and find something good instead of always something bad. If some of you really think TNA was better off in 03, 04, 05 then they are now, then I really question if you care that much about the product you say you care about. There's been gimmicks all thourgh TNA so nothings new(king of the mOuntain), Hard 10 match etc. And what did people do then...Bitch about it. There were ex wrestlers coming to TNA then...DDP, Disco, Hall, Nash..and what did people do...Bitch about it. While I'm on the subjetc, I just watched the 4 way x divsion match...guess how long it lasted? 6 and 1/2 minutes...for those of you that bitch about the length of match. Bottom line, TNA offers the same thing they offered 5 years ago but with more recognition and marketability. The company is trying to be on level with WWE, whether the indy nut busters wanna believe it or not, WWE is the standard on the Global market and I cant fault TNA for trying everything they can to obtain that. So again, stop watching it if you dont like it becasue your arguments and griping arent gonna change a damn thing! Thank you. But, you gotta understand, these guys that want everything their way will continue to bitch, gripe, whine, and complain until there is no wrestling. If you want TNA to be the same as it was in the past, then they would go out of business in a heat beat. Without names, storylines, and characters, they dont have a show. No matter what Wrestling company it is. And dont throw the Indy bull **** at me, because if they knew what they were doing, they wouldnt be Indy now would they? that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. so bryan danielson doesn't know what he's doing becasue he wrestles for an independent company. that's like saying amateur athletes don't know what they're doing becasue they're amateurs. the independent is there for young wrestlers to perfect there craft, that's the reason why companies pick up all these wrestlers from independent feds. almost everyone in a major company today went through an independent company. pull your head out of your ass son and get a freaking clue. there's a reason tna go to where it was in the first place, it wasn;t becasue of "major stars" it wasn;t for crap storylines. it was because of their in-ring product. ask almost any tna fan, they'll tell you their in ring product impressed them. the triple x/amw feud kicked ass, and they had matches to match. they're better than anything tna has done recently, and it culminated in an unforgettable cage match at turning point. that's when tna where a true alternative, highlighting a tag team feud above all others and putting it in the main event. and not only did they manage to destory their tag division but not having anybody get along and putting 70 odd year old guys in title matches over actual talent , they destroyed their x-division by giving their stars dumb gimmicks that have no longevity and are only good for a cheap pop.
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Post by deskjet on Feb 14, 2008 17:10:51 GMT -5
Still on this sh*t? Look, there are people on here that don't like TNA's new direction and there are people that for some odd reason do. There is no amount of biased reporting or opinions from the very small few of TNA diehards on here (or any other forum) that is going to change my mind. You can come into every thread and say "well, WWE does this and that". I don't give a f*ck, I'm not worried about WWE. They're a global company that brings in millions of dollars and have been around for several decades. In fact, f*ck the WWE. TNA needs to worry about their own situations. Anyhow, the main point of all this is people can sit here all day and tell me about "bitchin" and "griping" and I'm gonna still have my opinion on TNA in the present. Apparently so are 90% of the rest of the people on this board and pretty much all over the internet. I know all the dedication I HAD for TNA. I don't know many people that would drive 15 hours to Orlando to go to an Impact taping at Universal Studios. I did. Me and my wrestling buddies trying to start "TNA" chants at Hooters in front of a bunch of WWE marks during PPVs because I couldn't believe they thought what they were seeing was so great when TNA was putting on matches 10x better. So if you like it, great. Every Thursday, hop in front of your TV with your faded James Gang shirt and watch the sh*t. But face it, nobody is going to change the other's perspective of TNA. And don't give me that "you guys constantly start threads bashing TNA". I started a few threads that had nothing to do with that and these same people didn't touch those. But the minute something negative is said about TNA, boy, they're there in a heartbeat (not heat beat, looking at you Lewie). So blame yourselves for allowing the "bitchin and gripin" to go three and four threads long b/c you're contributing to it also. Not sure if you're refering to me...So A) I personally dint respond to your other thread becasue there's no feud i want to see right now. B) You do what you want and I'll do what I want, I'm not trying to convince people but i will offer my perspective on things and engage in debates, whether they are conc=vinced or not
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Post by deskjet on Feb 14, 2008 17:19:40 GMT -5
Thank you. But, you gotta understand, these guys that want everything their way will continue to bitch, gripe, whine, and complain until there is no wrestling. If you want TNA to be the same as it was in the past, then they would go out of business in a heat beat. Without names, storylines, and characters, they dont have a show. No matter what Wrestling company it is. And dont throw the Indy bull **** at me, because if they knew what they were doing, they wouldnt be Indy now would they? that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. so bryan danielson doesn't know what he's doing becasue he wrestles for an independent company. that's like saying amateur athletes don't know what they're doing becasue they're amateurs. the independent is there for young wrestlers to perfect there craft, that's the reason why companies pick up all these wrestlers from independent feds. almost everyone in a major company today went through an independent company. pull your head out of your ass son and get a freaking clue. there's a reason tna go to where it was in the first place, it wasn;t becasue of "major stars" it wasn;t for crap storylines. it was because of their in-ring product. ask almost any tna fan, they'll tell you their in ring product impressed them. the triple x/amw feud kicked ass, and they had matches to match. they're better than anything tna has done recently, and it culminated in an unforgettable cage match at turning point. that's when tna where a true alternative, highlighting a tag team feud above all others and putting it in the main event. and not only did they manage to destory their tag division but not having anybody get along and putting 70 odd year old guys in title matches over actual talent , they destroyed their x-division by giving their stars dumb gimmicks that have no longevity and are only good for a cheap pop. I'll agree TNA has gotten away from focusing on their divisions but I dont think it's taken away from in ring performances of the wrestlers. I'm still as entertained by thier in ring performance now as I was then. Again I think most people on here that have that"indy love" speak for the minority of people. If TNA ever did get back to that style I doubt you see any change in ratings casue they been there, and done that. Again, griping about it wont change the product, turning the channel might. I just hear too many people complaining about..THE WAY it was...Wake up! That's 2 years ago. Again at least try to find something good about the current product instead of complaining about what was and should be!
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Post by techn9ne77 on Feb 14, 2008 17:48:00 GMT -5
Not sure if you're refering to me...So A) I personally dint respond to your other thread becasue there's no feud i want to see right now. B) You do what you want and I'll do what I want, I'm not trying to convince people but i will offer my perspective on things and engage in debates, whether they are conc=vinced or not I wasn't referring to anyone personally, I was talking in general. There are people that like the product now and people that don't like it right now. Either side isn't going to change the other's thoughts no matter how many threads or debates are done. Now for the people that say "why watch if you hate it so much" or "stop watching if all you're gonna do is bitch". Pay really, really close attention b/c I plan on destroying this argument for good right this second. Here's a slightly different example: let's say you're a huge fan of the Punisher. You love the character, the comics, the whole 9. Now Hollywood comes along and makes one crappy movie, then another, then another, and they keep making crappy Punisher movies. Are you gonna sit there and say "well, I just watch what I like from the movies" or are you gonna be like "this sh*t is terrible because of this, this, and this". You'll get on a forum and talk with other Punisher fans that were also disappointed with the movies and state what you didn't like about them. Right? Now using that as an example, do you see why some TNA fans might hate what TNA has become and their new direction? Why we get on here and point out all the dumb sh*t that we see? Just like fans of Batman would point out what they did or didn't like about, let's say, Batman & Robin? Does that make them no longer fans of Batman? Or does it simply mean they don't like what's being done with that franchise? Just like we don't like what's being done with TNA. Now hopefully that will put that whole ridiculous assumption to death.
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Post by The UndyTaker on Feb 14, 2008 18:03:33 GMT -5
Say that out loud and listen to how ridiculous it sounds. These guys were around for years before they gave them these stupid copycat gimmicks. They knew Shark Boy wouldn't ever draw money as what he was. And as decent as Lethal is, he was nothing special other than being so good at such a young age; but that would only last so long. Parody isn't creative, and it isn't a great way to try to get someone over. How soon until we get Sonjay Dutt as Hacksaw Sonjay Duttgan? Or AJ Styles acting like Superstar Billy Graham? Or Lance Hoyt as "Hollywood" Hoyt Hogan? TNA-We're so much better than WWE even though we are modeling our roster and storylines after stuff WWE did in the 90's.You just proved what I was saying. these guys weren;t over until they got gimmick changes, now look at them. Again look at Machismos merchandise sales. And parody doesnt half to be creative but its effective and entertaining, just ask people on a tv show that's been around for almost 30 years....ummmmm saturday night live. I think we have serious discrepency between people stuck in the past and people who are living in the here and now You think having Shark Boy act like Stone Cold is OKAY?! That's the problem with you. You think it's okay to have talented guys acts like ing jackasses to get them over is okay. Especially for a company that has always acted like they are above that. I'm surprised they haven't signed The Zombie yet. Who cares about Black Machismo's ing merchandise sales? Will that save the company? Does that get ratings? No. Is that all you have to argue with? Show me numbers then. Show me how that really makes a difference in the booking. What's the here and now you speak of? The here and now is TNA is recycling gimmicks and storylines that WWE used 10 years ago, but say they are the future of wrestling. I like TNA. I wish they would get their craptogether. But the past 12 months have been some of the worst in the company's history booking-wise.
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Post by Master Lewpac on Feb 15, 2008 2:50:56 GMT -5
Not sure if you're refering to me...So A) I personally dint respond to your other thread becasue there's no feud i want to see right now. B) You do what you want and I'll do what I want, I'm not trying to convince people but i will offer my perspective on things and engage in debates, whether they are conc=vinced or not I wasn't referring to anyone personally, I was talking in general. There are people that like the product now and people that don't like it right now. Either side isn't going to change the other's thoughts no matter how many threads or debates are done. Now for the people that say "why watch if you hate it so much" or "stop watching if all you're gonna do is bitch". Pay really, really close attention b/c I plan on destroying this argument for good right this second. Here's a slightly different example: let's say you're a huge fan of the Punisher. You love the character, the comics, the whole 9. Now Hollywood comes along and makes one crappy movie, then another, then another, and they keep making crappy Punisher movies. Are you gonna sit there and say "well, I just watch what I like from the movies" or are you gonna be like "this sh*t is terrible because of this, this, and this". You'll get on a forum and talk with other Punisher fans that were also disappointed with the movies and state what you didn't like about them. Right? Now using that as an example, do you see why some TNA fans might hate what TNA has become and their new direction? Why we get on here and point out all the dumb sh*t that we see? Just like fans of Batman would point out what they did or didn't like about, let's say, Batman & Robin? Does that make them no longer fans of Batman? Or does it simply mean they don't like what's being done with that franchise? Just like we don't like what's being done with TNA. Now hopefully that will put that whole ridiculous assumption to death. Werent you the guy just talking about OPPINIONS? Well your little argument about the whole "Dont watch if you dont like it" thing, it doesnt work. There is no squashing the fact that it is your choice to watch, it is your choice to change the channel. You cant argue this. If you dont like it, you simply dont watch it. You want to use the Punisher in your argument? Well heres one for you then.. You're not going to watch Desperate Housewives if you dont like the show, are you? You're not going to watch an eppisode of your favorite show if its something you've seen a million times before, are you? (Even though in some cases you may.) See, I can do it too. The fact is, as a wrestling FAN. And thats what you're supposed to be, a fan, not a complainer who hates everything the company puts on television. As a fan, and not just wrestling, a fan of anything, you have the ability to turn away from what you are seeing. For example, lets say you are a die hard fan of AJ Styles, and even though hes stuck in a gimmick you dont like, you watch it anyway. Then here comes Sharkboy, a guy that most of you dont like, well, when Sharkboy is on, all you gotta do is go see what else is on for at the most, 7 minutes. Its not really that hard. Do you understand the power you all have? If you stop acting like asses, and thinking like children, "Oh if i cry and whine ill get my way," you can change what you dont like, by simply not watching it. If enough of you arent watching, then TNA management will look at the ratings for that segment and say "Well son of a bitch, that was a bad idea afterall. Maybe we should do something different this week." STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT IF YOU HATE IT SO MUCH. Thats really all I've been trying to smash into your heads.
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Post by Daz on Feb 15, 2008 3:58:29 GMT -5
that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. so bryan danielson doesn't know what he's doing becasue he wrestles for an independent company. that's like saying amateur athletes don't know what they're doing becasue they're amateurs. the independent is there for young wrestlers to perfect there craft, that's the reason why companies pick up all these wrestlers from independent feds. almost everyone in a major company today went through an independent company. pull your head out of your ass son and get a freaking clue. there's a reason tna go to where it was in the first place, it wasn;t becasue of "major stars" it wasn;t for crap storylines. it was because of their in-ring product. ask almost any tna fan, they'll tell you their in ring product impressed them. the triple x/amw feud kicked ass, and they had matches to match. they're better than anything tna has done recently, and it culminated in an unforgettable cage match at turning point. that's when tna where a true alternative, highlighting a tag team feud above all others and putting it in the main event. and not only did they manage to destory their tag division but not having anybody get along and putting 70 odd year old guys in title matches over actual talent , they destroyed their x-division by giving their stars dumb gimmicks that have no longevity and are only good for a cheap pop. I'll agree TNA has gotten away from focusing on their divisions but I dont think it's taken away from in ring performances of the wrestlers. I'm still as entertained by thier in ring performance now as I was then. Again I think most people on here that have that"indy love" speak for the minority of people. If TNA ever did get back to that style I doubt you see any change in ratings casue they been there, and done that. Again, griping about it wont change the product, turning the channel might. I just hear too many people complaining about..THE WAY it was...Wake up! That's 2 years ago. Again at least try to find something good about the current product instead of complaining about what was and should be! the reason people still talk about tna in 2005 is becasue it was good. don't get me wrong, the in-ring product isn't half bad now, we get damn decent matches now and again. it's the the other **** that goes with it that makes it almost unbearable to watch nowadays. you can't afford to take focus off of your divisions, it's what separated to show aj being a goofy idiot and karen angle being little more than a tramp. because the tag division and the x division are what made tna recognizable and made them an alternative in the first place. The fact tna was able to make us care about guys lime Sabin, like Kazarian, like Williams, AJ, Daniels, AMW, Triple X, The Naturals, MONTY BROWN and all those others despite the fact they weren't wll known is a testimate to how well the product was booked. Now, i couldn't care less about angle, about Cage, about AJ about almost everyone on the roster. and that's not through lack of trying, it's through tna's bad booking decisions and ridiculous angles. the fact that there hasn't been a significant change in the ratings since they changed from that style anyways shows that the new style they've adopted isn't working. and don't tell me 1 02 is a good increase from a 1.00 because it damn well isn't. a 1.5 maybe, but not 02. you are quite entitled to enjoy the current product, but you can't complain about people who don't. especially when you're in the minority. and you are. the booking is ass backwards and questions everyone's logic, i mean would you honestly pick bullet bob and bg james to take part in a tag title match over lax or mcmg? i didn't think so. people have every right to express what they want, to express their frustrations at a product. that's what a damn forum is for. you can claim to be a loyal tna fan, you can spout of all this "turn the channel" (which makes no sense given your tna fan position. since as a tna fan surely you want to product to succeed and therefore you should be encouraging people to tune in not off) stuff but at the day the people who want to see change, people who want to see an improvement in the booking are the real loyal tna fans. it's the ones like you pretending the product is all fine and dandy, when it isn't and millions of people around the world would testify to that fact. and enough with the whole "stop bitching, wwe lover." "stop groaning, if you don't like tna, don't post here crap" since you don't have to like wwe to despise the crap tna is churning out. and plus where else would we post? why we would bitch about tna in any other board but the tna board? Also lewpac your post is incredibly contradictory. you say don't watch the show. but you also say "if we're not happy with it, do something about it". isn't that what we're doing by voices are complaints on the internet? with the vain hope that somebody in tna catches on to what the majority of the fans want and change the product? you can't complain about us doing one thing, and then encourage us to that just that.
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Post by techn9ne77 on Feb 15, 2008 9:42:09 GMT -5
Well, well, well, look at this. You see, I was about to lay off the whole thing and you had to come back and say something.
"You're not going to watch Desperate Housewives if you dont like the show, are you?"
Ok, you're already wrong right there so let's just stop you on that note. First of all, I have NEVER liked Desperate Housewives EVER. That's the difference. I liked TNA and still do for the most part, I simply don't like alot of what they're doing right now. That's just my OPINION. Therefore, that example you used wasn't very good but the effort was commendable.
"See, I can do it too. The fact is, as a wrestling FAN. And thats what you're supposed to be, a fan, not a complainer who hates everything the company puts on television. As a fan, and not just wrestling, a fan of anything, you have the ability to turn away from what you are seeing."
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Dude, there are two major wrestling companies on national TV right now, TNA and WWE. As a wrestling fan, we don't have many choices. I don't like alot of the stuff WWE is doing also, but just like TNA I'll watch it from time to time b/c I AM a wrestling fan. Doesn't mean I have to force myself to like something on Smackdown (if I think it sucks) either just because I'm a wrestling fan. If you're a fan of wrestling, you're gonna watch what you can get basically. And if you don't like it, you're usually gonna voice your opinion about it.
"Do you understand the power you all have? If you stop acting like asses, and thinking like children, "Oh if i cry and whine ill get my way," you can change what you dont like, by simply not watching it. If enough of you arent watching, then TNA management will look at the ratings for that segment and say "Well son of a bitch, that was a bad idea afterall. Maybe we should do something different this week.""
Actually to be honest, I don't hate TNA enough to completely stop watching. I'll stop watching for a few weeks (in fact, I have) but I'll always still keep up with it (by reading TV reports from wrestling sites or the replay) b/c like I said, as a wrestling fan there aren't many options out there. And if people stop watching, then they'll go the way of WCW and go out of business. See that's the thing, a wrestling company should listen to their fans and know when the fans are clamoring for certain things. If fans are chanting "Fire Russo" at certain angles, then obviously they aren't into them. If you know fans are wanting Joe to have a run with the title, why keep putting it off? For all the wrong that WCW did, at least they got the title on Goldberg when he was hot. But back to the fan issue, if it gets to the point where you have to turn fans away from the product to the point of not watching (and who says those fans will come back) to see what we want, then you're basically asking to go out of business.
The whole point of the opinions thing is if you like it, watch it. It's that simple, but don't get mad if certain people feel the need to voice their displeasure. Now granted even I'm starting to feel that they are too many threads going around like this, but you have the option of simply ignoring them and not responding. I mean, you can't stop people from posting what they wanna post. Obviously my feelings (and others') on TNA right now is different from yours, dsekejt, and SGTNAfan124. Let's leave it at that and move on to talking about some other things about TNA.
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Post by deskjet on Feb 15, 2008 11:43:25 GMT -5
Let me break this down:
- i DONT CARE THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN OPINION OF THE PRODUCT...LIKE DISLIKE, BUT KEEP IT IN THE DAMN IMPACT THREAD WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE ALL COMPLAINING ABOUT INSTEAD OF STARTING 50 MILLION THREADS ABOUT THE SAME DAMN GRIPES!!!
-i DO NOT DEFEND TNA ALL THE TIME, ONLY WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING GOOd AND I BASE IT ON THE CUURENT SHOW, NOT IN COMPARISON TO WHAT IT WAS 3 YEARS AGO.
-THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF tna THAT SHOULD BE REVISITED...FOCUSE ON DISTINCTIONS IN DIVSIONS, LIKE TAG TEAM FEUDS, ETC, BUT THAT CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO the show.
i think this is where people misunderstand...I defend TNA impact for that show and where it's going...that's it!!!! If the next week, the show blows, I'll say something! And i have been VERY consitent with this throught out being on this board! Perhaps I'm naive to think that when TNA puts on a string of good impacts that that means they are making a turn...only to get sidswiped like last night, but I kinda expect that pattern and thus maintain hope that it gets better. that's why i try to have a wait and see approach to the product before throwing it out as soon as something doesnt go the way I think it should. TNA is very inconsistent, but again, I try tofind the good in it and that's what keeps me watching. And again, for the record, last nights epeisode was bad!
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Post by Master Lewpac on Feb 16, 2008 3:49:52 GMT -5
tech, I wasnt saying stop watching all together. Im saying, when a part of the show comes on that you cant stand to watch, change it. Dont watch that part. Go watch MTV for 3 minutes while Kurt and his wife are taking up tv time. Then switch back, and OH LOOK AT THAT, Kurts not taking up anymore time, and we're moving on.
Thats the point Im trying to get across here. You dont have to watch what you dont like. Which doesnt mean stop watching all together. Just dont watch the parts you dont want to see. Its not that hard to understand what im telling you.
You go and blow what I say out of proportion, and theres no need for it. What I have been saying this whole time is very simple if you just take your time, read it, and let it sink in.
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Post by mattoriginal on Feb 16, 2008 3:53:13 GMT -5
tech, I wasnt saying stop watching all together. Im saying, when a part of the show comes on that you cant stand to watch, change it. Dont watch that part. Go watch MTV for 3 minutes while Kurt and his wife are taking up tv time. Then switch back, and OH LOOK AT THAT, Kurts not taking up anymore time, and we're moving on. Thats the point Im trying to get across here. You dont have to watch what you dont like. Which doesnt mean stop watching all together. Just dont watch the parts you dont want to see. Its not that hard to understand what im telling you. You go and blow what I say out of proportion, and theres no need for it. What I have been saying this whole time is very simple if you just take your time, read it, and let it sink in. On paper that's a great idea. But it doesn't work when every other segment involves Kurt Angle.
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Post by The Best on Feb 16, 2008 16:41:24 GMT -5
For the past 2-3 weeks i've tried to watch TNA....and I can't get through the first 20 minutes. The dam show is horrible, it has almost nothing going for it and is intellectually- disabled in my opinion. The storylines are so friggen bad and its just a big joke. Most of the promos or segments were laughable and poorly acted, and the matches i've seen were terrible.
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