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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 30, 2008 15:59:12 GMT -5
sources: Wrestling Observer Newsletter, www.f4wonline.com-- TNA has no plans to use Frank Trigg at the moment. However, it's not due to his match with AJ Styles at No Surrender flopping in front of the live Toronto crowd. Some people in TNA were upset with the Toronto crowd as they believe he did a great job and that they wouldn't give the match a chance. Trigg isn't going to be used for the time being because he doesn't fit into current storyline plans. With him as Kurt Angle's friend, he doesn't fit in with the new battle of respect storyline between the older and younger wrestlers. He doesn't fit well on the older side either since he's new, and the feeling is that he can only be used as a heel. He may be brought back should something arise. Totally called that in the who would you drop topic.. he's so useless IMO. -- According to a fan in attendance, TNA drew approximately 500 fans to last Saturday's house show at the BankUnited Center, which is the 8,000-seat multi-purpose arena on the campus of the University of Miami. TNA didn't fare too much better the next day at the Lakeland Civic Center in Lakeland, Florida as the show drew approximately 600 fans in a 10,000 seat venue. Both shows featured Samoa Joe vs. Booker T in the main event. That is... um.. bad. -- The WhoIsSuicide.com website has been updated with a new graphic as well as a promo video that recently aired on Impact. Text on the page reads: "THE TIME IS DRAWING NEAR..." -- TNA will be running house shows this weekend in the Northeast in Lowell, Massachusetts (Friday), Glens Falls, New York (Saturday) and Plattsburg, New York (Sunday). Click here for info on this weekend's shows. |
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Post by perilloboy123 on Sept 30, 2008 16:13:34 GMT -5
I had no clue that TNA was coming to Lowell on Friday. I wonder if I can get last minute tickets.
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Post by laythvandam on Sept 30, 2008 16:21:06 GMT -5
I bet they'll bring Trigg back after a few months.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Sept 30, 2008 16:28:20 GMT -5
I had no clue that TNA was coming to Lowell on Friday. I wonder if I can get last minute tickets. looking at there recent draws... I'd say you should have no problem  |
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Sept 30, 2008 16:56:35 GMT -5
-- According to a fan in attendance, TNA drew approximately 500 fans to last Saturday's house show at the BankUnited Center, Bull ****. That show had about 2,000 fans. I should know, I was there. |
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Post by OverTheEdge on Sept 30, 2008 17:47:36 GMT -5
I had no clue that TNA was coming to Lowell on Friday. I wonder if I can get last minute tickets. looking at there recent draws... I'd say you should have no problem I was about to say the same. |
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Post by P@ul on Sept 30, 2008 19:10:37 GMT -5
I know it's related to the video game, but having a wrestler named Suicide is  ing stupid. |
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Sept 30, 2008 20:52:36 GMT -5
-- According to a fan in attendance, TNA drew approximately 500 fans to last Saturday's house show at the BankUnited Center, Bull ****. That show had about 2,000 fans. I should know, I was there. Dude... I'm only reporting it.. if you saw 2000 great for TNA  I'm happy for them. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Sept 30, 2008 23:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 1, 2008 0:10:11 GMT -5
TNA is doing the exact same thing that killed Jim Crockett Promotions...They are holding shows in arenas and cities that they dont belong in. TNA would flourish much more in places like Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia area then they would in Miami, New York, California and places like that
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Post by tnafan4life on Oct 1, 2008 0:19:51 GMT -5
TNA is doing the exact same thing that killed Jim Crockett Promotions...They are holding shows in arenas and cities that they dont belong in. TNA would flourish much more in places like Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia area then they would in Miami, New York, California and places like that BINGO! WHy not re-run the Ayslum? Run the Savanna Civic Center in Savannah. Run smaller venues in towns you can draw it. GA drew 4,000 or so fans on their DEBUT - yet we don't get another show. While SC draws crap - and gets 3 shows after that. I don't get it  |
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 1, 2008 0:29:30 GMT -5
Jim Cornette said he wanted TNA to run in places that the old NWA/JCP and SMW did. However Ive yet to see 1 show around me. Freedom Hall in Johnson City would be PERFECT for TNA, Civic Coliseum in Knoxville, TN...would be PERFECT for TNA. Knoxville packs a house for EVERY wrestling match, it doesnt matter what company or brand. If TNA cant put 1,100 in a 2,000 capacity in Knoxville then there is no hope for TNA. Even Ring of Honor is starting to work their way into tennessee but yet still no TNA (even though their damn home offices are here)
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Post by warmachine76 on Oct 1, 2008 8:33:53 GMT -5
TNA is doing the exact same thing that killed Jim Crockett Promotions...They are holding shows in arenas and cities that they dont belong in. TNA would flourish much more in places like Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia area then they would in Miami, New York, California and places like that That is a narrow minded approach to running a business. From a time where wrestling was still a territory business. That is not the case anymore and people don't get the chance to see live wrestling as much. Wrestling is a WWE dominated industry now. You have to test the waters to find out if you can swim there or not. Besides TNA has done pretty well in the Boston and New York markets to date and we have no clue about California yet. I have seen so many conflicting reports about the event in question it isn't even funny. As time goes i'm seeing more and more reports from people who claim to have been at the show saying they drew way more than 500 people. Who are we supposed to believe? In my opinion it seems that it has become way too popular to smear TNA for everything they do. Almost like it is intentional. The thing is it isn't hurting TNA. True the ratings have not gone up but they are maintaining the rating they have, still making money, and venturing further and further away from the home base. Those are all positive things. When TNA stops running house shows and ppv's in new locations is when you know there is a problem. That would mean they are hurting financially. That isn't the case though. It takes a long time to make a company successful in any business. It doesn't happen overnight. TNA is still a very young company and hasn't even begun to reach their potential. People seem to think that they should be trading punches with WWE already or something. It took WCW almost seven years before they really started to compete with WWE. Before that time they were very similar to TNA. Does anyone remember WCW before Monday Nitro? I sure do. I watched WCW Saturday Night and Sunday Night religiously. I still miss hearing Dusty welcome me to the "Mother Ship". WCW slowly built itself up the same way TNA is doing now. When the time is right they will strike the same way WCW did. That is the time when we should start talking about TNA making it or not. Right now it all seems a little pointless. We are not dealing with like products. WWE and TNA are nowhere near competing and TNA is smart for not trying to do so. They would fail miserably. TNA does the right thing by swimming behind the Great White Shark not head on in to it. All I can say is haters keep hating and fans keep being fans. In the end one of you will be rewarded. Either way "wrestling fans" need to support TNA even if you don't agree with everything or anything they do. The best way to achieve great entertainment in wrestling is through competition. WWE has not had any competition since WCW died and it shows in the product today. It shouldn't be about putting one or the other out of business in the wrestling industry. It should be about pushing one another. WCW/Ted Turner made the mistake of trying to put Vince out of business. I don't believe that is Jeff and Dixie's plan at all. All they want to do is run a successful alternative to WWE. Whether you agree or not that is what they are doing. As for Frank Trigg. What are you going to do? TNA threw it at the wall to see if it would stick. WWE does it all the time. That being said Trigg will probably be back in some capacity. He is good at the announce table and has the athletic ability to be a "pro wrestler". He has been working to pick up the game. We will see what happens. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 1, 2008 9:21:14 GMT -5
If TNA didn't do such a good job at making themselves out to be a joke (Ratings that steadily fluctuate between 1.0 and 1.1, reports of poor attendances outside of a select couple of hotbed locales, Sub-Par booking team) then people wouldn't be laughing at them. Took WCW 7 years before they started competing with WWE? Well TNA's about 6 and a half years in business... they aren't even CLOSE to being anywhere near ready to compete even at WCW's level at this point in their operations...
And the whole "When the time is right TNA will strike" thing is laughable at best... A)The WWE is just far too big to ever really have a "right time to strike"... and if they did make a catastrophic mistake, it would have been when they were wounded from the Benoit thing... but TNA won't ever be in any position to do so even if they are around for another 6 and a Half Years for one simple reason... Their fans and the way the treat/try to attract others.
TNA draws a VERY constant rating... Everyone on the IWC knows this. I mean, since they've been on SpikeTV I think their rating has always been between 0.9 and 1.1 with like... 1 or 2 1.2's. Now when you've been on Spike for 3 years now and have experienced little to no change in the number of fans you are gaining or losing it means you are doing something right... but also something wrong. The right thing you are doing is that you are capable of producing a VERY decent product that attracts a core group of fans... a group of fans who, are at this point, probably extremely loyal. The bad thing is that TNA more often then not tries EVER so hard to attract fans who just flat out aren't there for them. Instead of focusing on the fans who enjoy their product for what it is and will accept most if not all of what TNA is offering them even if it is a big pile of crapon a platter (ala a Matt Morgan match), they try in vain to attract casual fans who just really don't care... TNA offers nothing that can make just a casual viewer watch. Now I know SOMEONE is going to say "who cares about the casual viewer, TNA has it's fans" and for that I say you are wrong.
Like it or not, Wrestling's a business... a business with the main goal of getting as much money from your pockets without you noticing. They try to entice, swindle, grab as much cash as you are willing to give up. Now grabbing cash from 1-2 million people in the country will give you a nice chunk of change for sure... those people buying PPV's, buying T-Shirts, DVD's, etc will PROBABLY be enough to keep your organization afloat... but what kind of business wants to be just barely floating by? Think about if they were able to attract another 6-7 million of general casual viewing... that's 7-8 million people now ordering your PPV's, buying your merchandise... giving you your money.... for businesses it's not that simple. Casual fans are not the easiest to please. They are very whimsical, they'll turn off what they don't like and they rarely develop what some would call a loyalty for one product... not like the 1-2 million TNA is so capable of attracting. However TNA TRIES valiantly to attract those fans and just plain can't. Why? Because they have nothing to offer them... the casual fan isn't going to care that this week's broadcast of iMPACT is being held live... Casual fans aren't going to care that iMPACT is being broadcasted outside the iMPACT zone for the first time... the Casual fans want to be entertained and when they are watching a wrestling show, the casual fans probably want to see mid-length matches that can keep their attention, entertaining segments from recognizable or memorable charecters, and it doesn't hurt that TNA has some name guys who could be easily recognized by a casual fan (Sting, Angle, Booker, etc)...
TNA would be MUCH better off if they focused on slow burning a growth in their fan base... as you could see by my last description of what a Casual fan would be interested in seeing... that's what TNA is pretty much doing already. They need to try focusing considerably less on the casual fans because those are the kind of fans that they won't get but rather they need to focus on expanding there very niche audience...
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Post by warmachine76 on Oct 1, 2008 10:00:59 GMT -5
If TNA didn't do such a good job at making themselves out to be a joke (Ratings that steadily fluctuate between 1.0 and 1.1, reports of poor attendances outside of a select couple of hotbed locales, Sub-Par booking team) then people wouldn't be laughing at them. Took WCW 7 years before they started competing with WWE? Well TNA's about 6 and a half years in business... they aren't even CLOSE to being anywhere near ready to compete even at WCW's level at this point in their operations... And the whole "When the time is right TNA will strike" thing is laughable at best... A)The WWE is just far too big to ever really have a "right time to strike"... and if they did make a catastrophic mistake, it would have been when they were wounded from the Benoit thing... but TNA won't ever be in any position to do so even if they are around for another 6 and a Half Years for one simple reason... Their fans and the way the treat/try to attract others. TNA draws a VERY constant rating... Everyone on the IWC knows this. I mean, since they've been on SpikeTV I think their rating has always been between 0.9 and 1.1 with like... 1 or 2 1.2's. Now when you've been on Spike for 3 years now and have experienced little to no change in the number of fans you are gaining or losing it means you are doing something right... but also something wrong. The right thing you are doing is that you are capable of producing a VERY decent product that attracts a core group of fans... a group of fans who, are at this point, probably extremely loyal. The bad thing is that TNA more often then not tries EVER so hard to attract fans who just flat out aren't there for them. Instead of focusing on the fans who enjoy their product for what it is and will accept most if not all of what TNA is offering them even if it is a big pile of **** on a platter (ala a Matt Morgan match), they try in vain to attract casual fans who just really don't care... TNA offers nothing that can make just a casual viewer watch. Now I know SOMEONE is going to say "who cares about the casual viewer, TNA has it's fans" and for that I say you are wrong. Like it or not, Wrestling's a business... a business with the main goal of getting as much money from your pockets without you noticing. They try to entice, swindle, grab as much cash as you are willing to give up. Now grabbing cash from 1-2 million people in the country will give you a nice chunk of change for sure... those people buying PPV's, buying T-Shirts, DVD's, etc will PROBABLY be enough to keep your organization afloat... but what kind of business wants to be just barely floating by? Think about if they were able to attract another 6-7 million of general casual viewing... that's 7-8 million people now ordering your PPV's, buying your merchandise... giving you your money.... for businesses it's not that simple. Casual fans are not the easiest to please. They are very whimsical, they'll turn off what they don't like and they rarely develop what some would call a loyalty for one product... not like the 1-2 million TNA is so capable of attracting. However TNA TRIES valiantly to attract those fans and just plain can't. Why? Because they have nothing to offer them... the casual fan isn't going to care that this week's broadcast of iMPACT is being held live... Casual fans aren't going to care that iMPACT is being broadcasted outside the iMPACT zone for the first time... the Casual fans want to be entertained and when they are watching a wrestling show, the casual fans probably want to see mid-length matches that can keep their attention, entertaining segments from recognizable or memorable charecters, and it doesn't hurt that TNA has some name guys who could be easily recognized by a casual fan (Sting, Angle, Booker, etc)... TNA would be MUCH better off if they focused on slow burning a growth in their fan base... as you could see by my last description of what a Casual fan would be interested in seeing... that's what TNA is pretty much doing already. They need to try focusing considerably less on the casual fans because those are the kind of fans that they won't get but rather they need to focus on expanding there very niche audience... Man the only thing we agree on is Johnny Devine needs a push. |
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Post by BigShab421 on Oct 1, 2008 14:43:08 GMT -5
son of a bitch, I thought that said Pittsburgh, damn Plattsburgh.
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 1, 2008 22:34:10 GMT -5
TNA is doing the exact same thing that killed Jim Crockett Promotions...They are holding shows in arenas and cities that they dont belong in. TNA would flourish much more in places like Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia area then they would in Miami, New York, California and places like that That is a narrow minded approach to running a business. From a time where wrestling was still a territory business. That is not the case anymore and people don't get the chance to see live wrestling as much. Wrestling is a WWE dominated industry now. You have to test the waters to find out if you can swim there or not. Besides TNA has done pretty well in the Boston and New York markets to date and we have no clue about California yet. I have seen so many conflicting reports about the event in question it isn't even funny. As time goes i'm seeing more and more reports from people who claim to have been at the show saying they drew way more than 500 people. Who are we supposed to believe? In my opinion it seems that it has become way too popular to smear TNA for everything they do. Almost like it is intentional. The thing is it isn't hurting TNA. True the ratings have not gone up but they are maintaining the rating they have, still making money, and venturing further and further away from the home base. Those are all positive things. When TNA stops running house shows and ppv's in new locations is when you know there is a problem. That would mean they are hurting financially. That isn't the case though. It takes a long time to make a company successful in any business. It doesn't happen overnight. TNA is still a very young company and hasn't even begun to reach their potential. People seem to think that they should be trading punches with WWE already or something. It took WCW almost seven years before they really started to compete with WWE. Before that time they were very similar to TNA. Does anyone remember WCW before Monday Nitro? I sure do. I watched WCW Saturday Night and Sunday Night religiously. I still miss hearing Dusty welcome me to the "Mother Ship". WCW slowly built itself up the same way TNA is doing now. When the time is right they will strike the same way WCW did. That is the time when we should start talking about TNA making it or not. Right now it all seems a little pointless. We are not dealing with like products. WWE and TNA are nowhere near competing and TNA is smart for not trying to do so. They would fail miserably. TNA does the right thing by swimming behind the Great White Shark not head on in to it. All I can say is haters keep hating and fans keep being fans. In the end one of you will be rewarded. Either way "wrestling fans" need to support TNA even if you don't agree with everything or anything they do. The best way to achieve great entertainment in wrestling is through competition. WWE has not had any competition since WCW died and it shows in the product today. It shouldn't be about putting one or the other out of business in the wrestling industry. It should be about pushing one another. WCW/Ted Turner made the mistake of trying to put Vince out of business. I don't believe that is Jeff and Dixie's plan at all. All they want to do is run a successful alternative to WWE. Whether you agree or not that is what they are doing. As for Frank Trigg. What are you going to do? TNA threw it at the wall to see if it would stick. WWE does it all the time. That being said Trigg will probably be back in some capacity. He is good at the announce table and has the athletic ability to be a "pro wrestler". He has been working to pick up the game. We will see what happens. In all honesty TNA is much like a territory system. They are a very small company based in the southeast. Now Im not saying they shouldnt run shows in NY, Boston or LA...but they need to be wise about it. How many times has TNA been in NY the past 2 years? Compare that to how many times they have been back in Nashville for a big show. They use to pack shows in Nashville with diehard wrestling fans, now they are packing shows in Orlando with many "staged" fans, to make the arena look full. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 1, 2008 22:38:24 GMT -5
Man the only thing we agree on is Johnny Devine needs a push. I can certainly say I agree with you in this respect  |
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