What has CM Punk done in WWE?

I just hope they give him a chance to turn heel and really show us what he is made of and get the title back. I would hate to see WWE be dis-satisfied with his first run and mark him off considering how little they gave him before hand.

He has done nothing that I am aware of..., MVP should have won MITB and cashed it in on Triple H IMO. Atleast he has well...done something that is in the history books...

I agree I think Punk has a lot to left to give, but WWE isn't letting him be himself so he really can't "give" some of his Promo's and stuff like he was cutting in ROH.

I agree pretty much word-for-word with what wagwan said.

There are a lot of independent wrestlers that the Internet idiots hype up, and then when the guy gets to WWE it turns out that they're actually still pretty damn far from being a great wrestler. Punk has actually improved more than I ever expected, and come a lot further than I expected. Fair play to him.

That may be true, in some cases - but that doesn't apply to CM Punk at all.. I remember you saying the exact same thing about Paul Burchill, too.. Both are tremendous wrestlers, who do not need to improve on a damn thing, wrestling-wise.. Given the chance, Punk (and Burchill) could wrestle rings around the majority of the roster - but he's simply not being given that chance, and because of the restricted WWE style he is forced to work, is not ever likely to be given that chance.. Like someone said, there is no real need for this thread, because it is just stating the obvious.. We all know that prior to becoming WHC, Punk didn't do anything significant - because the WWE did not let him do anything significant.. Take it up with creative/management/Vince - because the fault lies solely with them, and not anything Punk himself, is doing.. He's done as good a job as he can, given the circumstances..

About the only thing he did was winning the ECW title but other than that, not very much. Punk has been criticised quite a lot in wwe especially for his house show work, it sucked here too.

Yes, Paul Burchill - one of the prime cases of "The Emperor Has No Clothes" - built up by the Internet idiots as something great, then he appears and can't get a fan reaction to save his life.


Yes, because HHH and Undertaker and Orton and Edge and Jericho and Michaels are hamstrung by that pesky "WWE style" that stops anyone getting over with fans, eh?


If you see all wrestlers as faceless robots that are completely controlled by the "creative team" then how can you like any of them? Every time any wrestler steps out in front of a crowd they have a world of opportunity. I can think of multiple examples in the last few years of wrestlers that became tremendously and unexpectedly popular and forced WWE's hand on storyline directions: Batista's whole rise to championship status for one, when WWE was building towards HHH vs Orton for WrestleMania. Eugene was another, his popularity (and Benoit's inability to be a character of value) led to him being the most important babyface character on RAW during the Benoit title run. Jeff Hardy was thrown into the main event scene late last year by fan support. Umaga took King Booker's WM23 role by being so impressive in his series with Cena. Those are just four examples.

Conversely, Punk has had several months as the main titleholder on two different WWE brands. You can blame whatever you like for your little indie favourites failing to make it in the real promotion, but ultimately, the responsibility is on their shoulders. Punk is not a failure yet. Burchill most likely is - he's a guy that could be kept around as a Victoria-esque heel jobber, but he hasn't displayed any kind of star ability beyond that. And he was given months of squash matches, a hot chick, an alliance with the Raw GM, runs with other rising stars (Kingston and Kennedy) and he never made any of it click. Hopefully, he will do so at some point, but it doesn't seem likely. Punk on the other hand did a reasonable job as the fluke champion - he played the part well enough. But the opportunity was there to succeed even if he was being set up to fail.

There's a difference between entertaining 200 people who rate matches based on some arbitrary five star system and entertaining 10000 people who don't give a damn about Japanese armbars.

I wish there had been a bit of Punk/Edge backstage stuff at the PPVs when Punk was champion. Edge should by rights want to give him a good hiding for the cheap title win, and that's a feud they should touch on every now and then to keep it in people's minds.

I personally still think they should have done a fued with Punk and Hardy similar to the one that he did with Raven in ROH. Have Punk rip on hardy for getting suspended twice and being a drug addict and all that yadda yadda. I think it would have made him a heel and elevated him on the mic. But thats just my opionion.