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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Nov 9, 2008 14:00:57 GMT -5
The thing people seem to forget is that you can have both. Guys like Rey Mysterio, Shawn Michaels, and more recent examples like Christopher Daniels have proven that.
You have to have storytelling, that's what make people interested and excited in the matches. Spotfests are good for instant reactions, but they are easily forgotten.
I think shows can be a mix of both, but if you want longevity on any kind of large scale then you have to learn how to tell a story. People don't talk about the spot monkeys years later, they talk about the story tellers.
Spots are great, but they need to make sense.
Even Evan Bourne is good at this. His moves are high impact, not just spotty. and he's usually against guys that he would have to use this kind of strategy against. He's not a master storyteller, but I think he'll get there.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 9, 2008 15:02:14 GMT -5
Spotfest = no mic skills needed. Story Telling wrestling match = Mic skill pretty important. In-ring storytelling and promos are by no means the same thing. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 9, 2008 15:06:36 GMT -5
I enjoy spot fests sometimes, but not in my main event. For my main event, I want the fight to tell a story. Exactly. There's room for both. A spotfest is fine to go "ooh" and "aah" like you're at a fireworks show or a circus, but the real money is in characters that people care about battling it out and getting fans involved in the story of the match - in the struggle, in the outcome. |
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Post by The Dude on Nov 9, 2008 17:41:50 GMT -5
I'm assuming a nice mix of the two is not an option? That's what I would prefer.  |
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Post by The Boondock Syxx on Nov 9, 2008 18:23:55 GMT -5
I prefer the style of people like Austin, Savage, Benoit and Taker. They try and story tell with maybe having a key spot in a match and not making the style too slow to really give the effect of a match being tough and a hard fought contest but spot matches are good to keep excitment in matches which haven't been giving good time or contain a large number of people. Who? |
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Post by missedgehead on Nov 9, 2008 23:21:02 GMT -5
I don't like spot fests. I prefer storytelling
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Nov 10, 2008 15:32:30 GMT -5
I like both. Spot fests are entertaining and are an integral part of the wrestling program. There cannot be seriousness or hard nosed technical grappling all the time. You cannot have 10 HBK vs Bret Hart matches on a card. There must be a mix of everything.
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 10, 2008 17:58:11 GMT -5
Seriously, if what some WWE wrestlers do is considered "storytelling," I'd rather watch Amazing Red stand in the middle of the ring and do backflips until he passes out.
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Post by fishzilla on Nov 12, 2008 20:42:50 GMT -5
Im a Deathmatch wrestling lover.
SpotMania>Story Time
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Nov 12, 2008 21:08:10 GMT -5
Im a Deathmatch wrestling lover. SpotMania>Story Time i'm not a huge death match fan...but i'm sure that there are some death match wrestlers out there that can work the match w/ all the crazy spots and stuff..yet still be able to tell a story |
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Post by TeamExtreme718x on Nov 12, 2008 22:37:01 GMT -5
How is ROH a complete spotfest??That is bullsh**..Best wrestling nowadays..
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 13, 2008 9:59:20 GMT -5
How is ROH a complete spotfest??That is bullsh**.. Agreed, but... That's even bigger bulls**. |
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Post by Wago on Nov 13, 2008 10:01:40 GMT -5
A good worker knows how to keep a spot monkey fan entertained without going overboard.
Having spot after spot after spot is stupid unless it is a multi man match or a gimmick match.
If you are going to have spots in a normal match, limit them, 1 big spot which has been built up during a match, gets more of a reaction and means so much more than spot after spot.
As far as I am concerned, death matches, spot fests, are not wrestling.
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