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Post by tnafan4life on Nov 29, 2008 0:21:04 GMT -5
Nobody mentioned Mike Tenay, or was it Tony Schiovone, and the revealing of what was to happen on Raw? It was so big it killed WCW's ratings. I don't see how that was breaking kayfabe
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Nov 29, 2008 0:29:15 GMT -5
I cant find the video, But it was like back in 98, Undertaker completley broke kayfabe in a fake shoot promo on vince.
Undertaker was at his highest point of the deadman character in like the ministry and crap, then one night comes out in some sweats and cut a promo as Mark Callaway.
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Post by carly1988 on Nov 29, 2008 0:31:33 GMT -5
Nothing beats the video with Bruno and Vince doing announcing for a match and one of the guys name is something Fabe....and Vince keeps joking and making reference to Bruno asking if Mr. Fabe's first name is Kay...This all happened in like late 70s early 80s
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Post by Angel Beast on Nov 29, 2008 0:33:28 GMT -5
I cant find the video, But it was like back in 98, Undertaker completley broke kayfabe in a fake shoot promo on vince. Undertaker was at his highest point of the deadman character in like the ministry and crap, then one night comes out in some sweats and cut a promo as Mark Callaway. wasn't that when he "quit" the company
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Post by EMINЭMツ on Nov 29, 2008 0:41:32 GMT -5
I think when anyone dies no wrestlers are like im glad hes dead on the night .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 0:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by DgenerationX092 on Nov 29, 2008 2:11:06 GMT -5
bingo. Seeing as the Undertaker has one of the biggest kayfabe gimmicks, I really would like to see something beat that for completley breaking it.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Nov 29, 2008 2:25:48 GMT -5
Nobody mentioned Mike Tenay, or was it Tony Schiovone, and the revealing of what was to happen on Raw? It was so big it killed WCW's ratings. How about Eric Bischoff? I think he refers to when Tony said Mankind was going to win the WWF title.
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Post by Angel Beast on Nov 29, 2008 2:48:56 GMT -5
I think when anyone dies no wrestlers are like im glad hes dead on the night . thats not breaking kayfabe thats just remembering and praising their former coworkers.
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Post by wolfpac on Nov 29, 2008 3:00:04 GMT -5
What about that ppv feed everybody got before GAB 04 where Undertaker practiced "Killing" Paul Bearer. I'm not sure how people got to see it or what, so who knows if that counts
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Post by Jimmy on Nov 29, 2008 4:36:52 GMT -5
see, a lot of these examples i don't see as breaking kayfabe. to me, dropping or admitting something is a gimmick doesn't break kayfabe as you can justify it as "well, the promoters want colorful guys and to make things exciting." to me what breaks kayfabe is when you start admitting that what goes on in the ring itself is fake, like my example of bagwell and riggs or jason newsted's example of schiavone talking about a script. the funny thing is those along with the undertaker interview and many others were all vince russo written. russo's trump card was breaking kayfabe and making everything seem real. only it tended to backfire because nearly every storyline became "Everything in wrestling is fake, except for what you're watching RIGHT NOW. That's real". I think you can see the inherent logic gap.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 29, 2008 5:13:46 GMT -5
One that comes to mind, was a match between Earthquake and Koji Kitao over in Japan. And Koji just stops wrestling and goes outside the ring and gets on the mic and apparently starts calling Earthquake a phony and says wrestling is totally fake and all this stuff.
I've seen the clip on Youtube. You should try and check it out. Pretty surreal.
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Post by Jackson! on Nov 29, 2008 5:15:10 GMT -5
i dont have a clip its prob on youtube but a funny breaking kayfabe is a match between cm punk tommy dreamer and elijah burke (i think) and burke hits punk with a forearm or something, punk falls, rolls over and says "wow that hurt" and it was right in front of the camera, i dont know if thats the exact detail, but its still pretty funny.
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Post by Angel Beast on Nov 29, 2008 5:45:59 GMT -5
i dont have a clip its prob on youtube but a funny breaking kayfabe is a match between cm punk tommy dreamer and elijah burke (i think) and burke hits punk with a forearm or something, punk falls, rolls over and says "wow that hurt" and it was right in front of the camera, i dont know if thats the exact detail, but its still pretty funny. thats a hard one to call
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Post by dimshady on Nov 29, 2008 6:13:05 GMT -5
I have a few, but its not WWE ones. Il write them anyway.
ECW - Paul Haymen did alot of shots, but one time he was mad because (i thinkit was TNN) Network signed WWE and gave them a primetime slot for Raw after showing ECW at the worst times and Paul said how he felt!
WCW - Brian Pillman was involved in a few, best one comes to my mind is when he was against the task master in a strap match and he whipped the taskmaster a bunch of times, jumpped out the ring and then siad on the mic "I respect you, BOOKER MAN!" Im sure he got fired after that. Also when he was running round the ring and he grabbed "the Brain" Bobby Hennen and the Brian said "what the f*ck are you doing?!" and walked off!
I think also in WCW, Jericho was upset with how it was going and hit the post with a chair screaming "I HATE THIS PLACE!"
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Nov 29, 2008 6:36:55 GMT -5
Nothing beats the video with Bruno and Vince doing announcing for a match and one of the guys name is something Fabe....and Vince keeps joking and making reference to Bruno asking if Mr. Fabe's first name is Kay...This all happened in like late 70s early 80s Aha! The very rare footage of "Kay Fabian". Nice one.
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Post by tasking on Nov 29, 2008 6:59:01 GMT -5
Let's not forget when the camera cut to Don West and Mike Tenay during a show and they were reading RIGHT from the script. Again, not the biggest, but still funny.
Also, wasn't DX invasion of CNN/WCW (hell, most of the old DX stuff) kinda on the border of breaking kayfabe? Sure, the whole angle was planned, but I'm sure there were parts where Tripz and the others were just randomly shooting their mouths off.
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Post by chevynutzNS on Nov 29, 2008 7:06:42 GMT -5
LMAOROFL! damn that never gets old.
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Post by dimshady on Nov 29, 2008 7:24:58 GMT -5
Let's not forget when the camera cut to Don West and Mike Tenay during a show and they were reading RIGHT from the script. Again, not the biggest, but still funny. Also, wasn't DX invasion of CNN/WCW (hell, most of the old DX stuff) kinda on the border of breaking kayfabe? Sure, the whole angle was planned, but I'm sure there were parts where Tripz and the others were just randomly shooting their mouths off. Lol yeah like when they was banging on the door shouting "let kevin and scott go!" X-pacs return speech towards Hogan was borderline too.
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Post by Bullet Club. on Nov 29, 2008 7:51:15 GMT -5
screw job or msg incident
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