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Post by miserere on Dec 9, 2008 3:17:45 GMT -5
Cena still had his belt in the preview they showed for the Iraq show. D'oh!
And is HBK just not wrestling Sunday? Four matches? Sitting on his ass really isn't the best way for a struggling man to earn a buck, is it?
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Post by AdamBomb on Dec 9, 2008 3:27:12 GMT -5
I never said Punk was God. That spot belongs to Lemmy. Anyway, I'm sorry you don't like the opinion that apparently, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE. I love Morrison, really I do. When I watched him on Tough Enough and he did a standing SSP, I prayed for him to win - in fact, in that whole season that's the ONE standout memory I have. He's talented. I know that. I don't deny it, but saying that HE DESERVES IT MORE than someone who WORKED HARDER for it doesn't make sense and it's asanine. It's not any bias at all, fact is fact - Punk has done more than him in his career and has worked harder than him. If you cannot agree that someone working harder and longer than someone else doesn't make them more deserving of something than PLEASE explain to me how John Morrison is MORE DESERVING of it, not just WHAT YOUR OPINION IS on who YOU like more. I'm more shocked you're actually agruing about this with my seriously. Wrestling's scripted folks.. no one is more deserving than anyone. It was a joke folks - geez. Like Asia said - Morrison's smarter. Oh okay. Boy, you got me there. Now you aren't being serious, funny thing was, until Asia said something... you acted pretty serious, nothing you wrote gave ANYTHING the feel of it being a 'joke.' I know wrestling is scripted smart ass, but CM Punk still worked to get where he is today, Morrison wasn't smarter, he caught a lucky break. Now you can't honestly tell me, out of ALL of the wrestlers on the planet, that they are all on an equal plain JUST because it's scripted. I guess Ric Flair didn't 'deserve' his send off either - I mean, he only busted his ass for decades, but, it's fake so that totally discards everything he did, thus making him not deserving of a damn thing. Right? So he's no better than Snitsky? They're the same right? Scripted.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 9, 2008 3:30:14 GMT -5
There's a diffrence between being deserving of a "send off"/going into a HOF and winning a match.. a BIG diffrence.
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Post by AdamBomb on Dec 9, 2008 3:31:30 GMT -5
no one is more deserving than anyone. Say what you mean, mean what you say.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 9, 2008 3:32:32 GMT -5
I meant it as far as winners/losers go in matches.
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Post by AdamBomb on Dec 9, 2008 3:45:14 GMT -5
And I meant it as, "Guy A has worked a lot harder than Guy B."
Nothing to do with wins or losses, but who actually bled, sweat, sacraficed, yadda yadda dramatic crap more than the other.
Take a step back and really think about what I am saying and meaning when I use the word, 'deserve'. I don't mean it in a kayfabe bull **** way. I mean it in, THIS GUY BUSTED HIS BUTT TO GET TO THE TOP AND HE DESERVES TO BENEFIT.
I respect the hell out of the performers for every damn risk that they take that goes along with being a pro-wrestler, just to entertain people like me - when someone (like CM Punk) does it longer, has to work harder to get to the big time, and sacrifices more than a guy who got lucky and got picked to be on a tv show (Like Morrison)... yeah, I think they (CM Punk) deserve it (success) a smiiiiiiiiiiidge more.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 9, 2008 3:55:51 GMT -5
You act like Morrison wasn't even training to be a wrestler before Tough Enough. He was though. Just because Morrison didn't wrestle for 10 people for 15 bucks doesn't mean he doesn't deserve just as much as Punk. Morrison had to bust his butt more in the WWE than Punk did. Sure, Morrison won a contest but look at his past: being bischoffs lakey, 100000 names, one tag team, one singles run, and another tag team laer in FOUR years. Punk comes in and in TWO YEARS he's a world champion, a tag team champion and most likely going for the IC title. Morrison's busted his butt just as much as Punk until something stuck (which it has) but just because he didn't do it on the indies it doesn't mean ntohing? Both guys have busted their butt in the WWE. I'm a Morrison fan, so no crap Imma so Morrison deserves it more just like a Punk fan would say Punk deserves it more. At the end of the day - they both deserve whatever sucess they get.
And I'm done with it.
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Post by AdamBomb on Dec 9, 2008 4:05:59 GMT -5
You act like Morrison wasn't even training to be a wrestler before Tough Enough. He was though. Just because Morrison didn't wrestle for 10 people for 15 bucks doesn't mean he doesn't deserve just as much as Punk. Morrison had to bust his butt more in the WWE than Punk did. Sure, Morrison won a contest but look at his past: being bischoffs lakey, 100000 names, one tag team, one singles run, and another tag team laer in FOUR years. Punk comes in and in TWO YEARS he's a world champion, a tag team champion and most likely going for the IC title. Morrison's busted his butt just as much as Punk until something stuck (which it has) but just because he didn't do it on the indies it doesn't mean ntohing? Both guys have busted their butt in the WWE. I'm a Morrison fan, so no crap Imma so Morrison deserves it more just like a Punk fan would say Punk deserves it more. At the end of the day - they both deserve whatever sucess they get.And I'm done with it. You had to say no more, I completely agree. I apologize if it came off like I was trying to put Morrison down, because I promise you I wasn't. In the WWE, he's one of my favorite guys to watch, and he helped to make the Miz bearable, something that should be considered an act of God. For a guy who came from Tough Enough, he's done a lot in his WWE tenure (holding seven championships) - let's just be glad he didn't turn out to be like Daniel Puder. What a turd.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Dec 9, 2008 14:39:43 GMT -5
You act like Morrison wasn't even training to be a wrestler before Tough Enough. He was though. Just because Morrison didn't wrestle for 10 people for 15 bucks doesn't mean he doesn't deserve just as much as Punk. Morrison had to bust his butt more in the WWE than Punk did. Sure, Morrison won a contest but look at his past: being bischoffs lakey, 100000 names, one tag team, one singles run, and another tag team laer in FOUR years. Punk comes in and in TWO YEARS he's a world champion, a tag team champion and most likely going for the IC title. Morrison's busted his butt just as much as Punk until something stuck (which it has) but just because he didn't do it on the indies it doesn't mean ntohing? Both guys have busted their butt in the WWE. I'm a Morrison fan, so no crap Imma so Morrison deserves it more just like a Punk fan would say Punk deserves it more. At the end of the day - they both deserve whatever sucess they get. And I'm done with it. Yep - and I'll tell you why.. Punk is the better wrestler, better on the mic, the better worker, has been over, ever since he first appeared on WWE programming, has a personality, sells merchandise, actually has a fan base and more significantly, hasn't used every steroid under the sun, like Morrison has.. and that is not opinion, that is fact.. Ask anybody who's anybody in the business who the better out of the two is, and I'm certain the answer would be CM Punk, almost every time.. The fact that after almost five years, they're still not prepared to pull the trigger on a main-event push for Morrison, should say it all.. Also the reason Punk went over, is because the fans would rather see him win than Morrison - but more than likely because Regal has lobbied for a feud with Punk, because he knows just how good he is and probably wants to put him over.. And now I'm done with it..
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Post by missedgehead on Dec 9, 2008 14:44:48 GMT -5
What I hated was how Edge looked so weak. Lame
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Post by Phantom on Dec 9, 2008 17:17:00 GMT -5
Am I the only one who saw Big Show crowd-surfing in the Iraq previews?
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Dec 9, 2008 17:29:10 GMT -5
I take that back. Punk winning ruins it for me. You aint the only one.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Dec 9, 2008 18:07:28 GMT -5
The Slammys were pretty stupid and VERY predictable, but whatever. Glad to see Punk walk away with one and also glad to see that Punk advances into the Intercontinental tournament. He'll beat Rey and then go on to beat Regal for the belt, which is fine with me, but I'd much rather see him in the World title picture though.
Same old predictable, repetitive garbage from Cena...Geez, that guy's act is SO played out and boring and it was good to hear some boo's from the Philly crowd towards Cena.
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Dec 9, 2008 18:13:34 GMT -5
Cage Misery Punk says...
BWAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHA!
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Dec 9, 2008 18:22:25 GMT -5
^ I don't know what is so funny. It's true the way I see it. Punk is better on the mic. John Morrison or Johnny Nitro, whatever you want to call the guy is pretty boring and bland on the mic and so is his ultra-lame partner The Miz. Man, I just cringe everytime I hear their ing lame catchphrase "Be Jealous". I can't describe how much I hate hearing that crap. It's so stupid and lame. I bet John Morrison will end up getting fired if he doesn't lay off the 'roids because it's blatantly obvious he's on them. Notice how chubby Edge is now?? Yeah, he was DEFINITELY on them for sure, but it looks like he's off them now or at least taken a break from them. Anyways, Punk >Morrison. End of story.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Dec 9, 2008 18:22:42 GMT -5
Cage Misery Punk says... BWAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHA! When Punk cuts a promo, it doesn't look like he's reading from an auto-cue..
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Post by ppk101 on Dec 9, 2008 19:30:05 GMT -5
The Slammys were pretty stupid and VERY predictable, but whatever. Glad to see Punk walk away with one and also glad to see that Punk advances into the Intercontinental tournament. He'll beat Rey and then go on to beat Regal for the belt, which is fine with me, but I'd much rather see him in the World title picture though. Same old predictable, repetitive garbage from Cena...Geez, that guy's act is SO played out and boring and it was good to hear some boo's from the Philly crowd towards Cena. How were the Slammy's predictable? They didn't go with the obvious IMO. The predictable way would have been to have Cena win OMG Moment, and probably even Superstar of the Year. Glamarella should have won Couple of the Year.
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Post by HardyHeft on Dec 9, 2008 19:41:44 GMT -5
YOu know before RAW starts they cut to the live crowd before the other show ends for a couple seconds plugging the event? would anyof you have a video of pics form it. I want to see it i made it in. I think i did but i didnt set to record till 8.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Dec 9, 2008 20:39:18 GMT -5
The Slammys were pretty stupid and VERY predictable, but whatever. Glad to see Punk walk away with one and also glad to see that Punk advances into the Intercontinental tournament. He'll beat Rey and then go on to beat Regal for the belt, which is fine with me, but I'd much rather see him in the World title picture though. Same old predictable, repetitive garbage from Cena...Geez, that guy's act is SO played out and boring and it was good to hear some boo's from the Philly crowd towards Cena. How were the Slammy's predictable? They didn't go with the obvious IMO. The predictable way would have been to have Cena win OMG Moment, and probably even Superstar of the Year. Glamarella should have won Couple of the Year. Well, for starters, when Matt Hardy came out and was there to hand out a Slammy, I just knew he'd be handing it to Jeff. Come on, that was blatantly obvious there. And when Melina was there, it was obvious Beth was going to win because she & Santino were still hanging around in the ring, not to mention they've both got a feud going on in the storylines. I pretty much knew Punk was going to win the "Oh My God" moment of the year because it was the best one, in my opinion. The only one that did throw me off, was the last one, The Superstar of the Year award. I thought for sure Cena would've won that one, and if not Cena, Triple H, but I was wrong on both accounts. It ended up being Chris Jericho, which really surprised the hell out of me. All in all, I think that version of The Slammy Awards was a dud. A complete dud. I enjoyed the Slammy's of years past much more. They were much more enjoyable and entertaining.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 9, 2008 21:57:02 GMT -5
I feel so ashamed... Last night, at the show... I bought my girlfriend... ...A CENA JERSEY.
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