Matthew Stovell
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Post by Matthew Stovell on Dec 7, 2008 8:24:47 GMT -5
but that's not what he said. since December last year, Cena' held the world title what, two weeks so far? whereas Tripper had his boring run with the belt for a good seven months He said held it more times, meaning more reigns than Hunter, not length like you are saying. but again, he said in the last year, so from December last year, Cena has won it once recently (two weeks ago), whereas Triple H has won it once as well, but has lost it. so they've held it the same number of times. that's all
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Post by Mandalorian Kid on Dec 7, 2008 9:09:13 GMT -5
Good things Triple H has had it so much sence WM21. Also I never see his merch sell either. Never see kids and adults mark out for him anymore. Nope. Hogans right. I'm sorry the man can't let his legacy die down a bit gracefully or that he has no control over his life or that of of his terrible ass family, But blaming HHH, or Shawn Michaels, Or Bret Hart, Or randy savage, Or anyone in general who isnt 6'7 and 300 lbs or whoever the hell he blames for ruining "the business" this week is, but he really needs to START to move on and settle down in his life.
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Post by layzie on Dec 7, 2008 9:18:02 GMT -5
wasnt that his first regin since dropping the belt in 05 at WM21?
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Dec 7, 2008 11:52:45 GMT -5
It's also dumb because most fans don't even know trhat HHH and Stephanie are married. which means it exposes nothing.
I'm somewhat of a Hogan fan, and love watching his old stuff for entertainment. But the man needs to shut up sometimes.
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2008 12:03:22 GMT -5
He said held it more times, meaning more reigns than Hunter, not length like you are saying. but again, he said in the last year, so from December last year, Cena has won it once recently (two weeks ago), whereas Triple H has won it once as well, but has lost it. so they've held it the same number of times. that's all But you were talking length, not number of reigns. But from the last time Hunter held the title (His hour or two holding the title doesn't count as his last reign) Cena has had a reign of 280 and 380 days. Much longer than Hunter held it these past months.
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Sims
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Post by Sims on Dec 7, 2008 12:07:32 GMT -5
I have the Power....you worry me. But idc if your right and I'm wrong. Its obvious he has a fan base b/c if he didn't there wouldn't be all those signs,DX crap,toys and t shirts being sold. Which Ernie the Cat never really did.
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Post by Heresy on Dec 7, 2008 12:20:46 GMT -5
Doesn't it expose the business just as much to have your top commodity be champion for four years straight? I mean being champion because you make the business money is no more kayfabe than being champion because you're the owner's son-in-law, even if it is a more valid reason... still that isn't what Hogan was going for with the word "expose."
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Post by AndyPeck13 on Dec 7, 2008 13:25:25 GMT -5
to the dude that's freaking out over Triple H and him not bringing in higher ratings...
lets look at it this way... WWE's target demographic has been 18-34 yr olds (i know, they are currently trying to focus on younger kids, but that's been their target audience for a long time)
so i think a big reason that they aren't getting higher ratings is b/c their main audience is OUT on friday nights....they aren't going to watch a taped wrestling show and stay home...this is the main reason i haven't watched SD! in years...i was actually happy 2 weeks ago when i got sick b/c it gave me a reason to stay in on a friday night and watch Smackdown...so i hardly blame Triple H for the ratings, i blame their day/time slot
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 7, 2008 14:41:43 GMT -5
to the dude that's freaking out over Triple H and him not bringing in higher ratings... lets look at it this way... WWE's target demographic has been 18-34 yr olds (i know, they are currently trying to focus on younger kids, but that's been their target audience for a long time) so i think a big reason that they aren't getting higher ratings is b/c their main audience is OUT on friday nights....they aren't going to watch a taped wrestling show and stay home...this is the main reason i haven't watched SD! in years...i was actually happy 2 weeks ago when i got sick b/c it gave me a reason to stay in on a friday night and watch Smackdown...so i hardly blame Triple H for the ratings, i blame their day/time slot And you can blame wrestling simply not being mainstream any more. The truth is that pro wreslting isn;t the cool thing to watch anymore. Back in the attitude era everyne was watching wrestling because it was popular. Quoting Rock and Austin phrases that you learned from tuning in on monday nights was just as much a fad as bellbottoms and those stupid livestrong bracelets. Is the fact that the business has been "exposed" in alot of ways since then? Absolutely. But, even though it's a real sport, so has baseball. Nowadays, wrestling is looked at more than ever as a glorified soap opera and has lost it's "integrity". Much like baseball which has done the same since substance abuse was uncovered to be such a big thing over there. I hate the people who rag on HHH for ruining the biz. He got his push before he and Steph even began to date anyway. And as it has been said before, the casual fan doesn't even know what goes on backstage besides what you hear from on air shoots. So the only people who are effected by it is the IWC or people who read PWI. When you have held the title for four years strait and you imply that he's ruining the business you are definately call the kettle black. Ugh, sometimes Hogan just stinks of hypocrasy.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2008 15:07:26 GMT -5
Trips did get a push pre-Stephanie, but he's constantly stayed on top doing-Stephanie while most guys tend to get a moment in the spotlight, step back for a while, then step up again. Trips has been there almost constantly. The nepotism criticism I think is a fair one.
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Post by Mark on Dec 7, 2008 15:08:15 GMT -5
rock stayed in the spotlight same with austin
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Post by B.D. & El G. on Dec 7, 2008 15:20:20 GMT -5
I'm calling it now, he'll make it 25 reigns. After all, who gives a poop about the number of days you hold it? I'm sure that HHH just wants his number of reigns to go up. On a side note: I'm referring to world title reigns. What makes you think Triple H is gonna give up the title 12 more times? Because, the more reigns you have, the better it makes you sound. I'm sure if he had the choice, HHH wouldn't mind losing the title that many times if it ment he broke the record and set the bar high for number of title reigns. Look at how good "16-time world champion" sounds for Ric Flair.
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Post by dakotadave on Dec 7, 2008 15:26:52 GMT -5
Hogan is right! He has the right to bitch...Vince bitched about his; he's protecting his show, and just stating the obvious about Vince's over-rated company. Hogan's new show is awesome. It's no different than Vince's Tough Enough was, but it's better!
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Post by JJ420 on Dec 7, 2008 15:45:42 GMT -5
Hulk Rules... Triple H doesn't rule. There is nothing larger than life about the Triple H character... all he does is hold the title, and that is it.
I have the WM18 DVD and I've watched the Hogan vs Rock match countless times... and the one time I saw the sad excuse of a main event (HHH vs Jericho), I almost died of boredom. The crowd really could not have cared less about that match, and it seems like the only reason they cheered at the end was because it meant that the boredom had come to an end.
And then there was Triple H's match at WM19... in a match he should have lost, he ended up castrating Booker T. On that night, it took 3 Rock Bottoms for the Rock to beat Austin, and 3 Legdrops for Hogan to beat Vinny Mac... but Triple H put just one pedigree on Booker and pinned him 10 seconds later!!! Triple H is in no position to call anyone else selfish or complain about politics - he's a legend wannabe, and at best, he is mediocre in everything.
The only match of Triple H's which I believe was fair, was his match at WM12.
God bless.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 7, 2008 15:53:22 GMT -5
Trips did get a push pre-Stephanie, but he's constantly stayed on top doing-Stephanie while most guys tend to get a moment in the spotlight, step back for a while, then step up again. Trips has been there almost constantly. The nepotism criticism I think is a fair one. You do have a point there, a very good point at that. I still do however believe that he has since earned his spot and everything that he's had. And on a side note, his title reigns are actually WWE/ World title reigns. I know that lots of people know this but just saying.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Dec 7, 2008 16:12:51 GMT -5
Hogan is right! He has the right to bitch...Vince bitched about his; he's protecting his show, and just stating the obvious about Vince's over-rated company. Hogan's new show is awesome. It's no different than Vince's Tough Enough was, but it's better! No... CCW is one of the dumbest things out there. Right up there with Tough Enough which was also a load of crap.
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Post by ZMaster on Dec 7, 2008 16:13:47 GMT -5
I think this is the 1st time Hogan ever took a shot at HHH at least that I can recall. Most of the time, it was HHH doing so. Not saying who was right or wrong just making an observation. All you can say he has the right to say what he wants even if you don't agree with it.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Dec 7, 2008 16:36:39 GMT -5
I think this is the 1st time Hogan ever took a shot at HHH at least that I can recall. Most of the time, it was HHH doing so. Not saying who was right or wrong just making an observation. All you can say he has the right to say what he wants even if you don't agree with it. Everyone has a right to say what they want to a degree, doesn't mean I can't think he's a jackass for saying it.
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Post by Dan on Dec 7, 2008 16:39:21 GMT -5
Don't know why he's complaining, when Hogan instantly took the Belt off of Triple H at Backlash 2002, just a month after he made his huge comeback from injury and won the Undisputed Title at Wrestlemania.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Dec 7, 2008 16:43:22 GMT -5
Don't know why he's complaining, when Hogan instantly took the Belt off of Triple H at Backlash 2002, just a month after he made his huge comeback from injury and won the Undisputed Title at Wrestlemania. I was actually just about to redo my post about that incident.
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