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Post by ecwtna420 on Dec 12, 2008 21:18:02 GMT -5
What's next for TNA, Sting vs AJ in a Judy Styles on a Pole Match? Or maybe when AJ beats Sting for the belt, AJ can bring his wife to the impact zone and they can have a live "sex" celebration...
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 12, 2008 21:22:27 GMT -5
No, I'm a fan of a tv show that's actually good you guys are just to freakin' nitpicky. SG....I got no issue with you and TNA does have a few good things. But the booking is freaking awful. They have had a dozen different types of pole matches. They push MCMG right into the ground. They dont build stories. They either drag it out too long like Joe getting the title or they just turn on the dime and do zero storytelling to say why what happened, like the dismantling of the Super Hero group. And would you care to tell me where I've defended any of that? I haven't said "Oh, the pole matches are a good idea" - I liked the Beer Bottle on a Pole because it did make sense. It gave Abyss the chance to get revenge on Storm for busting a beer bottle over his head by busting one over his head. I haven't defended TNA's lack of push of the guns and they way I see it they're being pushed pretty freakin good right now - they're on TV more than they were 3 months ago, they're involved with the main feud, and they're both in a title tourney - how are they being pushed into the ground now? 3 months ago I would've agreed but right now at this very moment - I don't. Next week if Shelley jobs to Young clean - yeah. I will take this back. They don't build stories? Really.. because the last time I checked they built Joe vs. Nash for almost a year and made it interesting - sure the payoff at BFG was a pile of crap and then Joe jobbing out to Nash was a bigger pile but they still built it up. This "respect thing" with Sting's getting built up since July. I thought the break up of the PJB was obvious - Young turned serious. That's what I don't get about this forum - you hate something, then when it goes you complain (not you either) because there was no explanation. Here's your explanation: Young's serious now, Curry's fired and Shark Boy sucks. No, I don't always write a book about TNA's mistakes - but that doesn't mean I ignore them. No, I don't always come onto WF and write book about mistakes but it doesn't mean I don't complain about them. This forum isn't the only place I talk about wrestling - I talk about wrestling on other forums, on MSN messenger with other fans/friends, I talk about wrestling outside of the Internet. So, just because I don't sit here and whine and cry about every little thing I hate about a product doesn't mean I love it all. Yeah, I'm TNA fan - I'll go shout it from the mountian tops if you want me to but that doesn't mean I love everything about the product. Yeah, there are things in the company that makes me wanna scream but there's 5 other things that make it up for ME. You wanna run down my opinion - by all means have at it. But, at least know everything before you do. I will contiue to watch iMPACT, buy the PPVs, buy the DVDs, buy the shirts, go the events and support TNA in more ways until they give me a reason not to and for the past 4 years they haven't. (Showstopper, that wasn't directly to you by no means - just venting)
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Dec 12, 2008 21:23:02 GMT -5
What's next for TNA, Sting vs AJ in a Judy Styles on a Pole Match? Or maybe when AJ beats Sting for the belt, AJ can bring his wife to the impact zone and they can have a live "sex" celebration... FAIL. AJ's a face.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 12, 2008 21:25:31 GMT -5
Or maybe when AJ beats Sting for the belt, AJ can bring his wife to the impact zone and they can have a live "sex" celebration... FAIL. AJ's a face. Also, heel or face I doubt AJ would evvvvveeerrr do that.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Dec 12, 2008 21:31:07 GMT -5
Also, heel or face I doubt AJ would evvvvveeerrr do that. It totally doesn't fit his character.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Dec 12, 2008 21:32:58 GMT -5
Also, heel or face I doubt AJ would evvvvveeerrr do that. True, isn't he Christian?
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 12, 2008 21:36:03 GMT -5
Also, heel or face I doubt AJ would evvvvveeerrr do that. True, isn't he Christian? Big time.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Dec 12, 2008 21:40:34 GMT -5
True, isn't he Christian? Big time. Heh, I didn't know that.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Dec 12, 2008 21:42:36 GMT -5
Then he should team with Sting, not fight him.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 12, 2008 21:45:44 GMT -5
SG....I got no issue with you and TNA does have a few good things. But the booking is freaking awful. They have had a dozen different types of pole matches. They push MCMG right into the ground. They dont build stories. They either drag it out too long like Joe getting the title or they just turn on the dime and do zero storytelling to say why what happened, like the dismantling of the Super Hero group. And would you care to tell me where I've defended any of that? I haven't said "Oh, the pole matches are a good idea" - I liked the Beer Bottle on a Pole because it did make sense. It gave Abyss the chance to get revenge on Storm for busting a beer bottle over his head by busting one over his head. I haven't defended TNA's lack of push of the guns and they way I see it they're being pushed pretty freakin good right now - they're on TV more than they were 3 months ago, they're involved with the main feud, and they're both in a title tourney - how are they being pushed into the ground now? 3 months ago I would've agreed but right now at this very moment - I don't. Next week if Shelley jobs to Young clean - yeah. I will take this back. They don't build stories? Really.. because the last time I checked they built Joe vs. Nash for almost a year and made it interesting - sure the payoff at BFG was a pile of crap and then Joe jobbing out to Nash was a bigger pile but they still built it up. This "respect thing" with Sting's getting built up since July. I thought the break up of the PJB was obvious - Young turned serious. That's what I don't get about this forum - you hate something, then when it goes you complain (not you either) because there was no explanation. Here's your explanation: Young's serious now, Curry's fired and Shark Boy sucks. No, I don't always write a book about TNA's mistakes - but that doesn't mean I ignore them. No, I don't always come onto WF and write book about mistakes but it doesn't mean I don't complain about them. This forum isn't the only place I talk about wrestling - I talk about wrestling on other forums, on MSN messenger with other fans/friends, I talk about wrestling outside of the Internet. So, just because I don't sit here and whine and cry about every little thing I hate about a product doesn't mean I love it all. Yeah, I'm TNA fan - I'll go shout it from the mountian tops if you want me to but that doesn't mean I love everything about the product. Yeah, there are things in the company that makes me wanna scream but there's 5 other things that make it up for ME. You wanna run down my opinion - by all means have at it. But, at least know everything before you do. I will contiue to watch iMPACT, buy the PPVs, buy the DVDs, buy the shirts, go the events and support TNA in more ways until they give me a reason not to and for the past 4 years they haven't. (Showstopper, that wasn't directly to you by no means - just venting) SG....I didnt say you were defending the pole matches, or MCMG or anything. I was trying to prove a point of why people have disdain for TNA right now. Anything on a pole......BAD IDEA. There was one cool pole match and pretty much was a failure and never happened again....Halloween Havoc......Coal Miner's Glove...Sting vs. Jake The Snake. MCMG have been buried so badly. On top of it......you say they are getting a decent push.......they just got annihilated by a cartoon character.......TWICE. Nash/Joe lost all its steam months and months before they finally got into the ring against one another. They did a decent jobh of teasing the breakup, but failed to climax at the right time.....ending up with a limp dick of a story. The breakup of PJB.....when did it happen? It never did. It just vanished....no explanation. Besides, Eric Young is a farce. He is nothing more than a more intellectually- disabled version of Eugene. Give me Sharkboy.....old school Sharkboy, not the Steve Austin ripoff....anyday. When TNA was running those Wed. PPVs they were cutting edge, fresh and full of hope. They began to drag for awhile after that, but were reinvigorated with the arrival of Christian Cage. They had the run of Joe.....and all the awesomeness that is AJ/Daniels. Then they went on life support. When they stopped trying to be new and cutting edge.....promoting the X Division....having their own stars and a few of the past.....recognizing legends like Race, Funk, Steamboat, etc.......that was good. Then we started to see too many gimmicks. PJB, signing ever WWE reject, recycling old gimmicks like Macho Man and Stone Cold, trying to recapture glory days with VKM or whatever they call themselves these days, Pole Matches, making Abyss a intellectually- disabled person, burying stars like MCMG, giving ODB tv time, anything related to Pac Man Jones, Kurt Angle shooting on Vince McMahon every week, Don West in general or having the very dorkish JB wear kick ass clothes........its all ruined it. Yes, JB has a fine sense of style. Unfortunately, he doesnt have the look or the flash to pull it off. JB has no business wearing sports coats with jeans, anything Affliction, or anything with a big puffy collar. Not even the clothes can make JB cool.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 12, 2008 21:48:48 GMT -5
And would you care to tell me where I've defended any of that? I haven't said "Oh, the pole matches are a good idea" - I liked the Beer Bottle on a Pole because it did make sense. It gave Abyss the chance to get revenge on Storm for busting a beer bottle over his head by busting one over his head. I haven't defended TNA's lack of push of the guns and they way I see it they're being pushed pretty freakin good right now - they're on TV more than they were 3 months ago, they're involved with the main feud, and they're both in a title tourney - how are they being pushed into the ground now? 3 months ago I would've agreed but right now at this very moment - I don't. Next week if Shelley jobs to Young clean - yeah. I will take this back. They don't build stories? Really.. because the last time I checked they built Joe vs. Nash for almost a year and made it interesting - sure the payoff at BFG was a pile of crap and then Joe jobbing out to Nash was a bigger pile but they still built it up. This "respect thing" with Sting's getting built up since July. I thought the break up of the PJB was obvious - Young turned serious. That's what I don't get about this forum - you hate something, then when it goes you complain (not you either) because there was no explanation. Here's your explanation: Young's serious now, Curry's fired and Shark Boy sucks. No, I don't always write a book about TNA's mistakes - but that doesn't mean I ignore them. No, I don't always come onto WF and write book about mistakes but it doesn't mean I don't complain about them. This forum isn't the only place I talk about wrestling - I talk about wrestling on other forums, on MSN messenger with other fans/friends, I talk about wrestling outside of the Internet. So, just because I don't sit here and whine and cry about every little thing I hate about a product doesn't mean I love it all. Yeah, I'm TNA fan - I'll go shout it from the mountian tops if you want me to but that doesn't mean I love everything about the product. Yeah, there are things in the company that makes me wanna scream but there's 5 other things that make it up for ME. You wanna run down my opinion - by all means have at it. But, at least know everything before you do. I will contiue to watch iMPACT, buy the PPVs, buy the DVDs, buy the shirts, go the events and support TNA in more ways until they give me a reason not to and for the past 4 years they haven't. (Showstopper, that wasn't directly to you by no means - just venting) SG....I didnt say you were defending the pole matches, or MCMG or anything. I was trying to prove a point of why people have disdain for TNA right now. Anything on a pole......BAD IDEA. There was one cool pole match and pretty much was a failure and never happened again....Halloween Havoc......Coal Miner's Glove...Sting vs. Jake The Snake. MCMG have been buried so badly. On top of it......you say they are getting a decent push.......they just got annihilated by a cartoon character.......TWICE. Nash/Joe lost all its steam months and months before they finally got into the ring against one another. They did a decent jobh of teasing the breakup, but failed to climax at the right time.....ending up with a limp dick of a story. The breakup of PJB.....when did it happen? It never did. It just vanished....no explanation. Besides, Eric Young is a farce. He is nothing more than a more intellectually- disabled version of Eugene. Give me Sharkboy.....old school Sharkboy, not the Steve Austin ripoff....anyday. When TNA was running those Wed. PPVs they were cutting edge, fresh and full of hope. They began to drag for awhile after that, but were reinvigorated with the arrival of Christian Cage. They had the run of Joe.....and all the awesomeness that is AJ/Daniels. Then they went on life support. When they stopped trying to be new and cutting edge.....promoting the X Division....having their own stars and a few of the past.....recognizing legends like Race, Funk, Steamboat, etc.......that was good. Then we started to see too many gimmicks. PJB, signing ever WWE reject, recycling old gimmicks like Macho Man and Stone Cold, trying to recapture glory days with VKM or whatever they call themselves these days, Pole Matches, making Abyss a intellectually- disabled person, burying stars like MCMG, giving ODB tv time, anything related to Pac Man Jones, Kurt Angle shooting on Vince McMahon every week, Don West in general or having the very dorkish JB wear kick ass clothes........its all ruined it. Yes, JB has a fine sense of style. Unfortunately, he doesnt have the look or the flash to pull it off. JB has no business wearing sports coats with jeans, anything Affliction, or anything with a big puffy collar. Not even the clothes can make JB cool. You know how I brought up nit picky earlier? That bold part = I rest my case. I'm done wth this - I said my case and either you take it or leave. At this point I really don't care anymore my opinion isn't going to change just because people love to reply to posts on a message board and complain about it.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 12, 2008 22:01:35 GMT -5
SG....I didnt say you were defending the pole matches, or MCMG or anything. I was trying to prove a point of why people have disdain for TNA right now. Anything on a pole......BAD IDEA. There was one cool pole match and pretty much was a failure and never happened again....Halloween Havoc......Coal Miner's Glove...Sting vs. Jake The Snake. MCMG have been buried so badly. On top of it......you say they are getting a decent push.......they just got annihilated by a cartoon character.......TWICE. Nash/Joe lost all its steam months and months before they finally got into the ring against one another. They did a decent jobh of teasing the breakup, but failed to climax at the right time.....ending up with a limp dick of a story. The breakup of PJB.....when did it happen? It never did. It just vanished....no explanation. Besides, Eric Young is a farce. He is nothing more than a more intellectually- disabled version of Eugene. Give me Sharkboy.....old school Sharkboy, not the Steve Austin ripoff....anyday. When TNA was running those Wed. PPVs they were cutting edge, fresh and full of hope. They began to drag for awhile after that, but were reinvigorated with the arrival of Christian Cage. They had the run of Joe.....and all the awesomeness that is AJ/Daniels. Then they went on life support. When they stopped trying to be new and cutting edge.....promoting the X Division....having their own stars and a few of the past.....recognizing legends like Race, Funk, Steamboat, etc.......that was good. Then we started to see too many gimmicks. PJB, signing ever WWE reject, recycling old gimmicks like Macho Man and Stone Cold, trying to recapture glory days with VKM or whatever they call themselves these days, Pole Matches, making Abyss a intellectually- disabled person, burying stars like MCMG, giving ODB tv time, anything related to Pac Man Jones, Kurt Angle shooting on Vince McMahon every week, Don West in general or having the very dorkish JB wear kick ass clothes........its all ruined it. Yes, JB has a fine sense of style. Unfortunately, he doesnt have the look or the flash to pull it off. JB has no business wearing sports coats with jeans, anything Affliction, or anything with a big puffy collar. Not even the clothes can make JB cool. You know how I brought up nit picky earlier? That bold part = I rest my case. I'm done wth this - I said my case and either you take it or leave. At this point I really don't care anymore my opinion isn't going to change just because people love to reply to posts on a message board and complain about it. If not going to change your opinion.....might change someone else who is a little more open minded.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 12, 2008 22:04:11 GMT -5
You know how I brought up nit picky earlier? That bold part = I rest my case. I'm done wth this - I said my case and either you take it or leave. At this point I really don't care anymore my opinion isn't going to change just because people love to reply to posts on a message board and complain about it. If not going to change your opinion.....might change someone else who is a little more open minded. How am I not open minded? Seriously, you don't know me. We're on a message board - you don't know if I'm open minded or not. No, I'm not going to be open minded who's done everything but came right out and said "Hey, your opinion blows". Now I'm done with this.
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