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Post by CBT on Dec 20, 2008 0:38:03 GMT -5
I use this, as just brief allure to when the X-Division was incredible to watch and how now it's hit or miss.
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Post by Iron Man on Dec 20, 2008 0:38:34 GMT -5
I think 2006 is when the downfall started and now the X-Division is complete crap.
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Post by Guy Incognito on Dec 20, 2008 0:50:30 GMT -5
I only really started getting into TNA this year because they decided to finally show it in Australia.
But damn, that match was awesome.
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Post by Judge Frollo on Dec 20, 2008 1:11:42 GMT -5
I was there. Hoorah.
But yes, 2006 to MAYBE mid 2007 is easily when it started to fall apart.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 20, 2008 1:16:31 GMT -5
2005? 2006?
Am I the only one who remembers the great matches in 2007 from the division?
It's not a lost cause.. anything can be saved at this point. Perfect Way: End of the FL/MEM feud. Styles can gather all the X-Division guys around and kinda "break it down" to them and explain what the division should be and boom (kayfabe wise) TNA can start booking it better.
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Post by CBT on Dec 20, 2008 1:35:43 GMT -5
2005? 2006? Am I the only one who remembers the great matches in 2007 from the division? It's not a lost cause.. anything can be saved at this point. Perfect Way: End of the FL/MEM feud. Styles can gather all the X-Division guys around and kinda "break it down" to them and explain what the division should be and boom (kayfabe wise) TNA can start booking it better. When we say great matches in 2007, were they accompanied by great feuds, stables, angles and impact main events?
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 20, 2008 1:38:08 GMT -5
2005? 2006? Am I the only one who remembers the great matches in 2007 from the division? It's not a lost cause.. anything can be saved at this point. Perfect Way: End of the FL/MEM feud. Styles can gather all the X-Division guys around and kinda "break it down" to them and explain what the division should be and boom (kayfabe wise) TNA can start booking it better. When we say great matches in 2007, were they accompanied by great feuds, stables, angles and impact main events? No, but it was still awesome match wise. Senshi/Aries(Starr), Daniels/Lynn, Daniels/Sabin/Lynn, Daniels/Sabin, etc.
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Jackson!
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Post by Jackson! on Dec 20, 2008 7:19:29 GMT -5
when angle won it.
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Post by LtD73 on Dec 20, 2008 9:40:02 GMT -5
i miss daniels
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 20, 2008 9:47:53 GMT -5
The X Division is still there, Everyone is just being used in a different way. Sabin and Shelley have been doing Tag Team, Styles and Joe have been in the Main Event scene, Daniels was Curry Man. I just think all of the guys have evolved from the X Division and moved on to World Title and Tag Title contenders and probably feel the X Div title is a step backwards.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 20, 2008 14:28:30 GMT -5
The X Division is still there, Everyone is just being used in a different way. Sabin and Shelley have been doing Tag Team, Styles and Joe have been in the Main Event scene, Daniels was Curry Man. I just think all of the guys have evolved from the X Division and moved on to World Title and Tag Title contenders and probably feel the X Div title is a step backwards. Not AJ - remember AJ went from X-Division, to Tag (at the same time w/ the X-Division Title), to the World, back to the X-Division.
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Post by Deep Shadows on Dec 20, 2008 14:42:11 GMT -5
I think it's still alive...we still get some really good X matches. MCMG, Lethal and Creed are really keeping it alive imo. I just think it gets overshadowed by storylines and builds up for main events. When (if) this MEM/FL storyline subsides I think the division will heat up again.
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Post by abyss on Dec 20, 2008 15:06:09 GMT -5
I would say when Jay Lethal won the belt at Slammiversary 2007 (I think). He finally won it, and then lost it to Samoa Joe a couple days later. Then, Angle got the title. And, Lethal ended up beating Angle for it. None of that was necessary at all for the belt to be passed around, and back to Lethal. Then, Devine "wins" it, and Lethal "wins it" back like a month later. All of this made the belt into a joke and it lost any presitge it had left.
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Post by kc on Dec 20, 2008 15:12:15 GMT -5
I would say when Jay Lethal won the belt at Slammiversary 2007 (I think). He finally won it, and then lost it to Samoa Joe a couple days later. Then, Angle got the title. And, Lethal ended up beating Angle for it. None of that was necessary at all for the belt to be passed around, and back to Lethal. Then, Devine "wins" it, and Lethal "wins it" back like a month later. All of this made the belt into a joke and it lost any presitge it had left. I agree with this man.
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Post by tnafan4life on Dec 20, 2008 15:15:19 GMT -5
I would say when Jay Lethal won the belt at Slammiversary 2007 (I think). He finally won it, and then lost it to Samoa Joe a couple days later. Then, Angle got the title. And, Lethal ended up beating Angle for it. None of that was necessary at all for the belt to be passed around, and back to Lethal. Then, Devine "wins" it, and Lethal "wins it" back like a month later. All of this made the belt into a joke and it lost any presitge it had left. Devine winning it at all (no matter how) is a joke tbh.
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Post by CBT on Dec 20, 2008 16:16:04 GMT -5
When we say great matches in 2007, were they accompanied by great feuds, stables, angles and impact main events? No, but it was still awesome match wise. Senshi/Aries(Starr), Daniels/Lynn, Daniels/Sabin/Lynn, Daniels/Sabin, etc. Maybe so, but none of the guys who wrestle in the division are seen in star light. Even if they're the unfamiliar faces, at one time the AJ's, Joe's, Daniels', Shelley's and Sabin's could main event an impact and draw an angle that was what TNA chose to sell as their best draws. Now we can have an occasionally good x-division match, but none of it is seemingly important or considered historic to the company's growth.
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Post by Matthew Stovell on Dec 20, 2008 16:31:41 GMT -5
I would say when Jay Lethal won the belt at Slammiversary 2007 (I think). He finally won it, and then lost it to Samoa Joe a couple days later. Then, Angle got the title. And, Lethal ended up beating Angle for it. None of that was necessary at all for the belt to be passed around, and back to Lethal. Then, Devine "wins" it, and Lethal "wins it" back like a month later. All of this made the belt into a joke and it lost any presitge it had left. Devine winning it at all (no matter how) is a joke tbh. i thought it was daft how there was an ultimate x match for possession of the x title, but the winners would not actually win the title itself, just the right to carry it around
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Post by Juba on Dec 20, 2008 16:35:13 GMT -5
no no 2007 is when it completley died...remember final resolution 07 had great x divsion matches and then it slowley but surley just died...i think the last ppv with more then one good x divsion match was lockdown 07
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Post by laythvandam on Dec 20, 2008 16:52:29 GMT -5
I think once Samoa Joe lost the belt to Senshi in 2006 the belt started going downhill, then with AJ,Joe and Daniels moving on ittook a huge blow and worsened when Lethal won it at Slammiversary.
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Post by Heresy on Dec 20, 2008 17:30:14 GMT -5
Joe's third reign in the summer of '07. He shouldn't have had anything to do with the X-division at that point and Jay Lethal shouldn't have had a meaningless first reign. It was a serious step backwards for Lethal, the division and Joe's momentum. TNA had no clue where to go with the X-division title at that point, so the following "hog all titles" storyline with Kurt Angle was pretty much the nail in the coffin.
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