koreygunz
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Post by koreygunz on Dec 30, 2008 11:28:53 GMT -5
Is it me, or did the WWE just kill alot of the momentum of both Mike Knox and Randy Orton on Raw?
Now, not that Knox had ALOT of momentum, but they had spent over a month building him up and then in his first match he gets pinned by Mysterio. Why? Couldnt Ziggler have taken the pin, or have a member of Cryme Tyme pin Miz/Morrison and start a fued between them again.
And then Orton, the most over heel in ALL of WWE, gets worked over by JBL and HBK and gets pinned clean. I dont get it.
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Post by bigvanshefer on Dec 30, 2008 11:38:24 GMT -5
Well, I won't say it's killing momentum, it's more like sacrificing momentum for the sake of another angle. Knox being pinned by Rey is just to elevate their mini-feud/angle, Orton being pinned is not only to push JBL/HBK's angle, but to possibly go off his word earlier that night about losing, and how it would get you out of Legacy.
I hope that all made sense.
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Dec 30, 2008 11:49:23 GMT -5
The main event was booked terribly. Why didnt HBK just let himself get counted out? Orton should have got DQ'd.
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Post by sean™ on Dec 30, 2008 12:07:02 GMT -5
Orton more or less got double teamed last night. The only thing that really made him look bad IMO was the HBK Combo.
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Post by J12 on Dec 30, 2008 12:32:53 GMT -5
I thought both Jericho and Orton were made to look incredibly weak at the expense of furthering the JBL/HBK storyline.
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Post by Creative Has Nothing for Me on Dec 30, 2008 12:48:58 GMT -5
Hadn't though about the Orton losing comparable to Manu losing. Kinda makes sense as to why they did it now.
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Post by bigbriancman16 on Dec 30, 2008 13:08:16 GMT -5
I see what you mean about the Knox thing, but Orton was basically in a handicap match after Jericho was eliminated, so I don't think it makes him look too bad.
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Dec 30, 2008 13:27:41 GMT -5
Orton didnt look bad, he was essentially in a Handicap match. But Im mad that HBK hit with the entire Finishing combo.
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Post by HugoOne on Dec 30, 2008 13:29:35 GMT -5
Jericho's had his momentum killed as he's been put on the backburner. Orton's fine. Knox never had any momentum to begin with. Too much beard.
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Post by sean™ on Dec 30, 2008 13:39:49 GMT -5
I had hoped that they were going somewhere with Jericho since he pin Punk clean last week, but no.
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Post by samsson on Dec 30, 2008 14:15:50 GMT -5
All I know is booking last night all around was just horrible, Everyone including the crowd just seemed off a bit.Manu put on a horrific performance,and way to much in other matches looked really forced and awkward. The worst part to further HBK and JBL we now have to sit thru JBL and Cena for god sakes at the RR..maybe we will get lucky and they will be the first match of the night  |
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Post by Chicago on Dec 30, 2008 14:27:28 GMT -5
Well, you can only be undefeated or, rather, built to look like a monster/unstoppable force for so long.
I do agree on both of the OP's points, though, as Ziggler should have taken the pin (if he were the legal man) and Orton, well, should have lost via distraction from a pleading Manu at ringside (being visible upset after his loss). Orton could still take the SCM and pin, but would not lose his momentum as his focus could be on making an example out of Manu next week by putting him out of action (and, thus, sending him to SmackDown and out of Legacy).
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Dec 30, 2008 22:09:13 GMT -5
I agree, it was ridiculous. Knox even though i dont like him shouldnt have been pinned, dare i say it, the last on that team. He a DQ win with him beating down on rey would have looked much better but the whole match was terrible and a massive mish mash. I personally think the match should have ended with a CT member losing but no precious cena probably prevented the team from a loss.
As for orton, yes he shouldnt have lost, again a non clean finish would have been better.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Dec 30, 2008 22:14:39 GMT -5
They did the same with Muhammed Hassan. He was undefeated and had such a great run at the time and was a major heel but was put into a match with cena which was not needed and of course cena made him look like a fool resulting in a loss and was never on that level again.
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Post by jfinnomore on Dec 30, 2008 23:31:41 GMT -5
I thought both Jericho and Orton were made to look incredibly weak at the expense of furthering the JBL/HBK storyline. couldn't agree more. such a boring story too if you ask me. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Dec 30, 2008 23:56:11 GMT -5
There was other way they could have done the angle without Knox being pinned. That match called for a dq, to make Knox look strong on the way into a possible match. I do feel the momentum was killed. I could be wrong, but this could be the sort of thing that prevents Knox from getting over, not that I truly expected him to anyway.
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Post by I LIKE BIG BUTTS on Dec 31, 2008 0:17:08 GMT -5
I hate how Legacy is being treated. They are a joke so far.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Dec 31, 2008 5:13:31 GMT -5
The crowd last night was DEAD.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Dec 31, 2008 5:18:20 GMT -5
Now you know why WWE can't create new stars(not talking about Orton but in general) and the same ones are in the Main Events.
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Dec 31, 2008 12:19:53 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why Kane didn't come out and chokeslam Orton. Miz is the only logical pick to have taken the pin in the 10 man.. Which was a cluster  to begin with. |
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