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Post by The Mac on Jan 2, 2009 12:19:24 GMT -5
Paul Heyman has a new column on The Sun revealing his "Paulie Awards" for the year in professional wrestling, MMA and boxing. Heyman gave "The Impact Player" Paulie Award to Brock Lesnar; the "Time Capsule Moment Of The Year" Paulie Award to Shawn Michaels' sweet chin music to Ric Flair at Wrestlemania; the "It's My Turn" Paulie Award to Edge and Manny Pacquiao in a tie; and the "Industry Snapshot" Paulie Award to TNA, labeling them as an asterisk. Heyman then goes on a rant on TNA, praising their roster and basically saying they need to go beyond being "WWE Lite." "TNA is so hell bent on trying to present a WWE-style product that it loses its own audience, which just aches to be given a reason to brag "we're better," or "we're cooler," or simply "we're different," Heyman wrote. "Until Dixie Carter and TNA management wake up and play to the potential audience that's out there, their big claim to fame will be "we're number two."
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Three8Six.com has posted TNA's official response to "The Wrestler." The statement reads, "We're happy to see professional wrestling in the mainstream spotlight through the movie 'The Wrestler.' Mickey Rourke's performance is nothing short of sensational; Mickey Rourke is the movie. His portrayal of an over-the-hill wrestler struggling to find his own meaning in life has already been talked about as Oscar-worthy, and rightfully so."
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Post by Iron Man on Jan 2, 2009 13:06:13 GMT -5
Heyman is god
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Post by K5 on Jan 2, 2009 15:34:48 GMT -5
i wish heyman would've bought strikeforce out.
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Post by Deep Shadows on Jan 3, 2009 8:19:59 GMT -5
Heyman speaks the truth!
He's a mastermind when it comes to running a wrestling company. He should be better at handling money by now...c'mon Paulie...give us something! I'd give anything for him to have another wrestling organization...I would have a new goal in life: to become part of it in some capicity.
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Post by deskjet on Jan 3, 2009 16:56:48 GMT -5
In all fairness, I think sinc ethe inception of MEM, tna has been trying to get away from being wwe lite. so maybe Heyman needs to watch a bit more without so much bias
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Post by fishzilla on Jan 3, 2009 17:20:28 GMT -5
Yea, But Heymans Show was number 3.
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Post by Heresy on Jan 3, 2009 18:10:01 GMT -5
In all fairness, I think sinc ethe inception of MEM, tna has been trying to get away from being wwe lite. so maybe Heyman needs to watch a bit more without so much bias Ahh yes, because nothing says "getting away from WWE lite" than having a band of WWE/WCW guys dominate everyone else... AJ and Joe are less credible now than before MEM, so I'm not sure where you're going with that statement. Yea, But Heymans Show was number 3. At least he got there with his own talent... and never turned his back on said talent or pretended his company was something it wasn't. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jan 3, 2009 18:25:03 GMT -5
Yea, But Heymans Show was number 3. At least he got there with his own talent... and never turned his back on said talent or pretended his company was something it wasn't. Not to forget that ECW also had an extremely large audience and even FMW crowds in Japan knew their work. Whereas when TNA went and worked the Dome show last year the crowd was confused as to who Abyss was. In the time ECW became ECW to where TNA is now, ECW had already cemented their spot in wrestling's history. In my opinion TNA has yet to even get anything more than a brief mention in a wrestler's biography. |
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Post by fishzilla on Jan 3, 2009 18:28:10 GMT -5
At least he got there with his own talent... and never turned his back on said talent or pretended his company was something it wasn't. Not to forget that ECW also had an extremely large audience and even FMW crowds in Japan knew their work. Whereas when TNA went and worked the Dome show last year the crowd was confused as to who Abyss was. In the time ECW became ECW to where TNA is now, ECW had already cemented their spot in wrestling's history. In my opinion TNA has yet to even get anything more than a brief mention in a wrestler's biography. Good point, but i was talking in the US.  I Love ECW, but i had to call Heyman out on Dissing TNA for taking WWE Garbage as ppl like to call it. |
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Jan 3, 2009 19:27:22 GMT -5
Heyman knew how to make stars, whoever is in charge of that in TNA has no clue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 19:32:10 GMT -5
Heyman, was not biased in what he said about TNA. It's all true. TNA is nothing more, right now, than another WWE program basically.
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Post by Lewscher on Jan 4, 2009 9:26:35 GMT -5
Heyman, was not biased in what he said about TNA. It's all true. TNA is nothing more, right now, than another WWE program basically. id die if it is or ever will be  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 15:16:12 GMT -5
Heyman, was not biased in what he said about TNA. It's all true. TNA is nothing more, right now, than another WWE program basically. id die if it is or ever will be Basically it is. It's funny they claim to be Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. A couple weeks ago the show had 18 minutes of wrestling on it. That's action right there! |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 7, 2009 9:25:45 GMT -5
At least he got there with his own talent... and never turned his back on said talent or pretended his company was something it wasn't. I call shenanigans! Heyman constantly pretended his company was something it wasn't, bad-mouthing the WWF and claiming to be an independent, renegade, anti-establishment promotion even though it was kept afloat by secret checks from Vince McMahon. |
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Post by warmachine76 on Jan 7, 2009 12:39:26 GMT -5
I'm so sick and tired of Paul Heyman running his fat mouth. This guy needs to let a little air out of his ego.
I acknowledge that he at one time ran a wrestling promotion that was somewhat cutting edge. Take the hardcore aspect out of ECW and it was no different than any other wrestling company on the planet in my opinion. However I also acknowledge that he ran that same company in to the ground by being a lousy businessman. He was also very good at stiffing his talent and losing them the the WWF and WCW.
I also recall that quite of few of his wrestlers were castoffs from other promotions to begin with.
Shane Douglas(WWF and WCW), Raven (WWF and WCW), RVD (WCW for a short period), Sabu, Al Snow (WWF), Mick Foley, Steve Austin and those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Hmmm...sounds a little like what TNA does with WWE castoffs to me.
So basically I think Heyman is full of sh*t. He likes to run down TNA because it reminds him of what he used to have. A small up and coming wrestling promotion. I'm sure he can't stand watching TNA growing and making money. Something ECW never could seem to do.
Heyman is no mastermind.
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Post by the franchise on Jan 7, 2009 13:10:53 GMT -5
Heyman got wrestlers to work for free for long periods of time. He sold out shows with little to no advertising and at times only a local television show. It takes a pretty creative guy to be able to do those things.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 7, 2009 15:13:47 GMT -5
I'm so sick and tired of Paul Heyman running his fat mouth. This guy needs to let a little air out of his ego. I acknowledge that he at one time ran a wrestling promotion that was somewhat cutting edge. Take the hardcore aspect out of ECW and it was no different than any other wrestling company on the planet in my opinion. However I also acknowledge that he ran that same company in to the ground by being a lousy businessman. He was also very good at stiffing his talent and losing them the the WWF and WCW. I also recall that quite of few of his wrestlers were castoffs from other promotions to begin with. Shane Douglas(WWF and WCW), Raven (WWF and WCW), RVD (WCW for a short period), Sabu, Al Snow (WWF), Mick Foley, Steve Austin and those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Hmmm...sounds a little like what TNA does with WWE castoffs to me. That's because you're an idiotic TNA fanboy with the blinkers on. Foley, Snow and Austin became much bigger stars thanks to their ECW runs, which launched them onto WWF success. They weren't stars of a decade ago clinging onto their glory years for an easy payday. And those other names are associated with which company? Yes, ECW. Because that's where they made their names, and they made the company as well. How many of the "Main Event Mafia" would you suggest are more closely associated with TNA than their WCW or WWF days? How many of them have had their biggest moments in TNA? Silly boy. |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jan 7, 2009 15:19:34 GMT -5
Whoever said the MEM thing had a decent point. Since then, they aren't a WWE rip-off anymore.
They're a 2000-2001 WCW rip-off, which is worse.
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Post by warmachine76 on Jan 7, 2009 16:09:44 GMT -5
I'm so sick and tired of Paul Heyman running his fat mouth. This guy needs to let a little air out of his ego. I acknowledge that he at one time ran a wrestling promotion that was somewhat cutting edge. Take the hardcore aspect out of ECW and it was no different than any other wrestling company on the planet in my opinion. However I also acknowledge that he ran that same company in to the ground by being a lousy businessman. He was also very good at stiffing his talent and losing them the the WWF and WCW. I also recall that quite of few of his wrestlers were castoffs from other promotions to begin with. Shane Douglas(WWF and WCW), Raven (WWF and WCW), RVD (WCW for a short period), Sabu, Al Snow (WWF), Mick Foley, Steve Austin and those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Hmmm...sounds a little like what TNA does with WWE castoffs to me. That's because you're an idiotic TNA fanboy with the blinkers on. Foley, Snow and Austin became much bigger stars thanks to their ECW runs, which launched them onto WWF success. They weren't stars of a decade ago clinging onto their glory years for an easy payday. And those other names are associated with which company? Yes, ECW. Because that's where they made their names, and they made the company as well. How many of the "Main Event Mafia" would you suggest are more closely associated with TNA than their WCW or WWF days? How many of them have had their biggest moments in TNA? Silly boy. Now, now what is with all the name calling? To think you are calling me a boy. One would think it the other way around with your childish reply to my post. I've been watching pro wrestling for twenty eight years son. I'm no boy and i'm not an idiot either. Oh and I think it is supposed to be "blinders" not "blinkers" genious. I'm sorry that you are so delusional. Mick Foley made his name when the Taker threw his fat a** off the Cell not in ECW. Steve Austin owes jack and you know what to ECW as well. ECW just happened to be the only company that would let him book himself. Austin was already an established name in WCW and didn't truly make a real name for himself until he went to work the WWF. The only thing ECW/Heyman did was give Austin the chance to make some real money. Way to go Paul you are the man. I guess i'll give you Al Snow. That mainly being because Al Snow never really did anything of note anyway. The man is irrelevant to pro wrestling outside of being a trainer. You picked poor names to key on son. The original ECW is the most overrated wrestling promotion of all time. As I said before. You take the hardcore out of ECW and all you have is a second rate indy company or generic WCW/WWF. That has nothing to do with liking TNA or not liking TNA. Those are just the facts. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 7, 2009 16:28:41 GMT -5
I'm so sick and tired of Paul Heyman running his fat mouth. This guy needs to let a little air out of his ego. I acknowledge that he at one time ran a wrestling promotion that was somewhat cutting edge. Take the hardcore aspect out of ECW and it was no different than any other wrestling company on the planet in my opinion. However I also acknowledge that he ran that same company in to the ground by being a lousy businessman. He was also very good at stiffing his talent and losing them the the WWF and WCW. I also recall that quite of few of his wrestlers were castoffs from other promotions to begin with. Shane Douglas(WWF and WCW), Raven (WWF and WCW), RVD (WCW for a short period), Sabu, Al Snow (WWF), Mick Foley, Steve Austin and those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Hmmm...sounds a little like what TNA does with WWE castoffs to me. So basically I think Heyman is full of sh*t. He likes to run down TNA because it reminds him of what he used to have. A small up and coming wrestling promotion. I'm sure he can't stand watching TNA growing and making money. Something ECW never could seem to do. Heyman is no mastermind. You've got to be kidding me. You just picked the only wrestlers you could think of that went to WWE/WCW, but have handily omitted to mention the people that Heyman created: The Dudleys (or Team 3D whichever you prefer, either way they ended up as the most successful tag team ever), Rhino (multiple time world champion), Tommy Dreamer, Lita, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Taz, ALL former world champions. Paul Heyman took all the wrestlers the other companies DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO USE and made them shine. He's the greatest creative mind wrestling has ever seen, how you don't understand that is beyond me. Anywho, TNA is struggling because they're trying to hard to be the next WWE, just re-packaging old storylines. However, one thing I'll give TNA's MEM storyline is that it's got the fans split down the middle as to who they're cheering for so it makes it a little less predictable and creates a way better atmosphere. That's all I'm saying on TNA for now. |
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