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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 7, 2009 16:55:19 GMT -5
I've been watching pro wrestling for twenty eight years son. I'm no boy and i'm not an idiot either. Well, I'm afraid your "not an idiot" claim is easily contradicted with the next bit of your post (let alone every bit of every post you make): No, it's blinkers. And there is no such word as "genious." Genius. Which came after his ECW stint. Thus again contradicting your silly claims that ECW did what TNA does and employ the big company's aged cast-offs whose glory days are behind them. Well done! If you were to take Jeff Jarrett's member out of your mouth for a short while, you might become aware of the well-known references that Austin has made to his ECW run being the genesis of his Stone Cold character, where he first got to cut loose in a wrestling promo and be himself. Read up, boy. You were the one that chose these names as some sort of comparison with TNA's Main Event Mafia. Congratulations on seeing that the comparison is stupid, but commiserations on forgetting that you brought them up. The original ECW is the most overrated wrestling promotion of all time, but your second point is predictably nonsensical. Why would anyone "take the hardcore out of ECW"? It wasn't like it was some sort of extraneous extra. It was part of the company's identity. It's like saying "take the ring ropes out of a wrestling ring and all you have is some canvas and wood" - it's a statement that means nothing. ECW was in no way like the WWF or WCW until they started utilising the same ideas that ECW was using. Yeah, it's just a total coincidence that every other post you make is also full of stupidity and lies in a vain attempt to convince people that TNA is the greatest wrestling promotion of all time. I'm guessing you missed the day of school where they explained the meaning of the word "fact." |
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Post by Heresy on Jan 7, 2009 17:14:41 GMT -5
At least he got there with his own talent... and never turned his back on said talent or pretended his company was something it wasn't. I call shenanigans! Heyman constantly pretended his company was something it wasn't, bad-mouthing the WWF and claiming to be an independent, renegade, anti-establishment promotion even though it was kept afloat by secret checks from Vince McMahon.There's a fundamental difference. ECW delivered what it advertised... an independent, renegade, anti-establishment promotion. Vince's money has nothing to do with it. Can't a major production company produce a movie with a lower-class feel? TNA presents itself as one thing, and delivers something else. "New face of wrestling"? "No divas here"? "The alternative"? You get the picture. |
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warmachine76
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Post by warmachine76 on Jan 7, 2009 18:42:58 GMT -5
I've been watching pro wrestling for twenty eight years son. I'm no boy and i'm not an idiot either. Well, I'm afraid your "not an idiot" claim is easily contradicted with the next bit of your post (let alone every bit of every post you make): No, it's blinkers. And there is no such word as "genious." Genius. Which came after his ECW stint. Thus again contradicting your silly claims that ECW did what TNA does and employ the big company's aged cast-offs whose glory days are behind them. Well done! If you were to take Jeff Jarrett's member out of your mouth for a short while, you might become aware of the well-known references that Austin has made to his ECW run being the genesis of his Stone Cold character, where he first got to cut loose in a wrestling promo and be himself. Read up, boy. You were the one that chose these names as some sort of comparison with TNA's Main Event Mafia. Congratulations on seeing that the comparison is stupid, but commiserations on forgetting that you brought them up. The original ECW is the most overrated wrestling promotion of all time, but your second point is predictably nonsensical. Why would anyone "take the hardcore out of ECW"? It wasn't like it was some sort of extraneous extra. It was part of the company's identity. It's like saying "take the ring ropes out of a wrestling ring and all you have is some canvas and wood" - it's a statement that means nothing. ECW was in no way like the WWF or WCW until they started utilising the same ideas that ECW was using. Yeah, it's just a total coincidence that every other post you make is also full of stupidity and lies in a vain attempt to convince people that TNA is the greatest wrestling promotion of all time. I'm guessing you missed the day of school where they explained the meaning of the word "fact." I apologize for the misspelling of one word clown. I suppose I should start pointing out all of the missed punctuation marks, misspelled words, and poor grammar in your posts. That however isn't worth my time. By the way it is blinders. The last time I checked blinkers are lights that flash on and off in succession. You sure know how to take someones words and chop them up to serve your own little agenda pal. I'm sure you would make that sleaze Heyman proud. I stated that you chose poor names to key off of. Meaning that you should have used other names like RVD, Sabu, or Shane Douglas from my list. Instead you used names of guys that were established a hell of a long time before they ever stepped one foot in an ECW ring. Steve Austin was the WCW United States Champion way before Heyman let him use ECW as an extended shoot. If you want to know the truth. WCW made Stone Cold Steve Austin. Or rather Eric Bischoff made Austin. He took the anger from being let go from WCW and turned it in to the Stone Cold character. Heyman merely allowed him the platform. Then he took his ball back to a real wrestling company and made some money. Mick Foley was not an unknown either. You can say what you will. The WWF made Mick Foley a star not Heyman and ECW. Al Snow was the one I gave you. Enough said. As for being pro TNA. So what if I am? This is the TNA board correct? This isn't the suck Paul Heymans balls board is it? I sure as hell didn't think it was. I come here to discuss TNA. Not what Pauls washed up a** thinks of it. Have you ever asked yourself why the man can't seem to quit talking about TNA? It is called sour grapes. He had it and lost it. Then he couldn't even hold down a job being a WWE stooge. Now all he has is a garbage opinion column. What a wrestling mastermind he must be. What would wrestling be without Paul E. Dangerously? I shudder to think. |
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Post by warmachine76 on Jan 7, 2009 18:50:04 GMT -5
I'm so sick and tired of Paul Heyman running his fat mouth. This guy needs to let a little air out of his ego. I acknowledge that he at one time ran a wrestling promotion that was somewhat cutting edge. Take the hardcore aspect out of ECW and it was no different than any other wrestling company on the planet in my opinion. However I also acknowledge that he ran that same company in to the ground by being a lousy businessman. He was also very good at stiffing his talent and losing them the the WWF and WCW. I also recall that quite of few of his wrestlers were castoffs from other promotions to begin with. Shane Douglas(WWF and WCW), Raven (WWF and WCW), RVD (WCW for a short period), Sabu, Al Snow (WWF), Mick Foley, Steve Austin and those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Hmmm...sounds a little like what TNA does with WWE castoffs to me. So basically I think Heyman is full of sh*t. He likes to run down TNA because it reminds him of what he used to have. A small up and coming wrestling promotion. I'm sure he can't stand watching TNA growing and making money. Something ECW never could seem to do. Heyman is no mastermind. You've got to be kidding me. You just picked the only wrestlers you could think of that went to WWE/WCW, but have handily omitted to mention the people that Heyman created: The Dudleys (or Team 3D whichever you prefer, either way they ended up as the most successful tag team ever), Rhino (multiple time world champion), Tommy Dreamer, Lita, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Taz, ALL former world champions. Paul Heyman took all the wrestlers the other companies DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO USE and made them shine. He's the greatest creative mind wrestling has ever seen, how you don't understand that is beyond me. Anywho, TNA is struggling because they're trying to hard to be the next WWE, just re-packaging old storylines. However, one thing I'll give TNA's MEM storyline is that it's got the fans split down the middle as to who they're cheering for so it makes it a little less predictable and creates a way better atmosphere. That's all I'm saying on TNA for now. I didn't include Jericho, Eddie, or Benoit for a reason. That being nobody outside of the ECW vacuum, Mexico, or Japan knew who the hell they were before WCW. ECW did nothing but land them better paying jobs. Heyman had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of their characters or in ring work. |
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Post by Mark on Jan 8, 2009 1:24:18 GMT -5
Paul had nothing to do with the creation of their character? Lol
I guess the same could be said for Big Show and Bobby Lashley
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