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Post by Thunder on Jan 6, 2009 20:18:40 GMT -5
Well, I guess if we don't get more RPs then it'll have to be an extension since we can't do results with less than half the guys having RPed. I, for one, am getting sick of it.
But I'll say now that Mike has gotten an extension for a few hours for a very legitimiate reason. Of course, it'll probably apply to everyone else soon.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jan 6, 2009 22:04:39 GMT -5
I say, from now on, just enforce the deadline. They don't RP on time, and their opponent does? They lose. Period.
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Post by BASTARDKING on Jan 6, 2009 22:51:57 GMT -5
I say, from now on, just enforce the deadline. They don't RP on time, and their opponent does? They lose. Period. I second that notion |
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Post by BASTARDKING on Jan 6, 2009 23:57:02 GMT -5
deadline is just about here
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Jan 6, 2009 23:57:59 GMT -5
As much as I want to put my foot down, if we start doing this we could just end up with only the same 6-7 that get RPs up before the extension and at that point we really don't even have a fed.
But really, I don't see there being much excuse at this point. When the RP time period was a week, people suggested that we should make it more than a week and that would fix it. Now the same thing is still happening.
Seeing as I already gave Mike an extension, yeah that means everybody gets it. Twelve more hours. It shouldn't be that impossible to get something up.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jan 7, 2009 15:00:32 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's not entirely fair to the rest of us who actually take the time to get our RPs in on time that we have to wait for the results. Sure, my past two RPs have been like, a week early, but that's only because I knew that was the best time for me to get mine in before the deadline. I mean, I understand there are some times where extreme circumstances don't allow people to roleplay on time, but I think the ones that are just being lazy, or just don't want to do it, need to be weeded out.
Perhaps there should be a punishment system. No show one show, and you're not booked for the next one. No show the next show you're booked on, and you're suspended for two shows. After that, you're done. I don't really know if it would work in that form, but I think there needs to be something done.
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Jan 7, 2009 15:17:49 GMT -5
Yeah, it's getting pretty  ing ridiculous now. Mike's the ONLY one who didn't have an RP on time that let me know anything, and then with the extra twelve hours he's the only one that got anything done. And keep in mind he had a legimiate excuse. I'm not sure what we're going to do in regards to this yet, but we're going to have to do something. |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jan 7, 2009 15:24:40 GMT -5
I just want to re-iterate that I understand that some people have extreme circumstances. Hell, my partner did before the last show. It's kinda frustrating, to me at least, because I want this to go well, and it seems like people just do it for a few weeks, and lose interest. Sheer Domination doesn't do anything anymore, and there's others just like him. It's a bit of a downer, tbh.
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Post by Thunder on Jan 7, 2009 15:31:37 GMT -5
Look, I know stuff gets in the way. But like you said, I think when that keeps up people just kind of forget or don't care.
As for Sheer Domination, he's done. I sent him a PM reminding him to RP the last time he was booked, he said he would get something in and then told me immediately after that he quit. It was an amazing conversation.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 7, 2009 15:32:47 GMT -5
Wait...I thought the deadline was moved to tonight midnight. .  |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jan 7, 2009 15:36:39 GMT -5
Look, I know stuff gets in the way. But like you said, I think when that keeps up people just kind of forget or don't care. As for Sheer Domination, he's done. I sent him a PM reminding him to RP the last time he was booked, he said he would get something in and then told me immediately after that he quit. It was an amazing conversation. Seems like it. He never really seemed to grasp the concept of the RP either, so I suppose it's to WFWF's benefit. *shrug* |
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 7, 2009 15:42:00 GMT -5
By extending the deadline every week you're encouraging people to wait until the last minute.
Not to mention extending the deadline just gives people more time to not roleplay.
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Post by Master of Destruction on Jan 7, 2009 15:57:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I totally forgot about it until like this morning, and by that time I didn't really have time to put one up. What with new year and all, most people probably had more important things on their mind.
on a similar note btw, didn't the 'three no shows=a suspension' thing work before?
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Post by BASTARDKING on Jan 7, 2009 16:59:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's not entirely fair to the rest of us who actually take the time to get our RPs in on time that we have to wait for the results. Sure, my past two RPs have been like, a week early, but that's only because I knew that was the best time for me to get mine in before the deadline. I mean, I understand there are some times where extreme circumstances don't allow people to roleplay on time, but I think the ones that are just being lazy, or just don't want to do it, need to be weeded out. Perhaps there should be a punishment system. No show one show, and you're not booked for the next one. No show the next show you're booked on, and you're suspended for two shows. After that, you're done. I don't really know if it would work in that form, but I think there needs to be something done. We could call it "The WFWF Wellness Policy".....  |
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Post by Rated R on Jan 7, 2009 17:10:20 GMT -5
Well we're going to have to do something, be it a suspension policy or some other idea, because it does get to a point where it's beyond a joke. I had a massive amount to do the past week, from new years to school to work, but I still managed to get a roleplay up. Its fine if you have a good enough reason, like Mike did, and let us know, but if not then theres no excuse.
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Post by ZMaster on Jan 7, 2009 20:01:28 GMT -5
I see the problem and I have an idea. Here's an idea I had and it comes from working on freelance projects online with a system that might work. You guys make the cards and if anyone is not going to be able to make it, they must tell you within 24 hours and no penalty is given.
Same for guys who accept match writing jobs, give them a 24 hour window and if they can't do it, no harm no foul. If they don't turn in the match on time for you guys, then they can't write matches for you unless there is a major reason why they couldn't do it in the first place. What you consider major is up to you guys.
I think that those that actually have a legit reason should not be penalized but those who just don't show up and not even give a reason should be penalized. Maybe keep them off the card until they prove they will actually be active by writing up a character development rp for example.
I know I don't rp but just trying to give some helpful ideas. I'm sure you guys will figure it out in no time.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Jan 7, 2009 20:54:30 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's not entirely fair to the rest of us who actually take the time to get our RPs in on time that we have to wait for the results. Sure, my past two RPs have been like, a week early, but that's only because I knew that was the best time for me to get mine in before the deadline. I mean, I understand there are some times where extreme circumstances don't allow people to roleplay on time, but I think the ones that are just being lazy, or just don't want to do it, need to be weeded out. Perhaps there should be a punishment system. No show one show, and you're not booked for the next one. No show the next show you're booked on, and you're suspended for two shows. After that, you're done. I don't really know if it would work in that form, but I think there needs to be something done. We could call it "The WFWF Wellness Policy"..... Its a good idea though. I mean if you can't take 30 minutes to an hour of your time out of the way to write an RP, maybe your too busy to do this. Barring extreme circumstances of course. |
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jan 9, 2009 13:40:06 GMT -5
Take me for instance. Everyone here who talks to me knows that I have a super crazy real life, which is super busy, full time job, college, hot girlfriend, movie making, but I still get something up. Sure, it might be a half ass effort like my return here, but its something.
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Post by Swarm on Jan 10, 2009 0:16:57 GMT -5
Back in the XWA I had a system that worked very well and I even began using it here in the last month or so of co-owning the fed.
You are allowed three consecutive no-shows. If that occurs, you are demoted to the WFDC (or in the case of no-WFDC, you are gone until you write a decent, well-sized promo for your character). This also applies if you no-show 4 out of 7 cards.
You guys' problem is there's no consequence for no-showing. MOD no-shows this week and he still has a title shot at the Pay-Per-View. I'm sorry but like, anyone who's here has chosen to be here. Nobody has been forced to join. You all choose to come here and do something for yourself, whether it be a passion to write or a passion to win fake internet fights, whatever. The point is, the Trace Demons and Thunders who run the e-fed essentially get nothing out of it. At bare minimum you should show them some respect and put at least the tiniest bit of effort forth.
Then again, and I'm not one to judge at all, but when results aren't put out on time I think that tends to hurt the overall morale of the fed as well, so it works both ways.
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