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Post by CBT on Jun 27, 2007 23:07:57 GMT -5
so.. are we just not doing results this week? I'd pm you a response and delete this if I had powers.  Wayne is doing results but he is stuck on 1 match somebody I will just say has a belt in the fed is suppose to be writing. It's the main event. Wayne is considering writing it, but if the match is written or being written he'd rather just have it be done. In other words, Wayne is handling the situation.... chronically? |
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Post by thesouthsidekid on Jun 27, 2007 23:10:12 GMT -5
Oh yeah that is right, I am supposed to be writing that match. I forgot about it. I'll get on that and get it in.
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Post by Calvin on Jun 28, 2007 5:29:20 GMT -5
this is what I HATE about how results are done here. We have TWO owners. If someone isn't doing their job in results, write the damn match YOURSELF. and CBT, if McGurk is having problems. help you. I know you had the time, you seemed to have plently of time to do that WFWF 24 thing, so I know you have time to write a simple match. You guys have the dumbest system for results. There I said it.
You are suppose to help each other out. That's the meaning of CO-OwNERS. Not take turns, but HELP OUT EACH OTHER. It's completely stupid to be like "oh wayne is stuck, but Im not gonna help because it's not my week" Book TOGETHER. Write results TOGETHER. Work TOGETHER. I can see if someone can't help this week, then you do it alone, but CBT's been like, doing so much crapthis week, I know hes had time to help. If you really want to be owner CBT, you wouldnt be stickinga round saying McGurk is stuck. you'd be finding a way to get that last match into McGurk, even if it meant writing it yourself. These match writters clearly aren't helping much either, just do simple paragraph matches. Who the hell cares what moves happen. You don't follow move sets anyways, so whats the point of having them? Just show the damn ending. Results are OVER RATED. Learn to work together. If we had two owners working together, it would be so much easier to get things done, and we wouldn't be sitting here, waiting for week late results.
Also, don't give me the whole I can't contact him deal. There is what you call a pm. If he has problems with sometihng, he'd pm you, or vise versa. And if you think there is something wrong, you pm him asking whats up. It's as simple as that. Or both of you get the same messanger and communicate. This is why I like Rev, he actually did things when he was needed. He dind't wait around. We need owners who actually know how to be owners...
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Post by veronicaaaahhhh on Jun 28, 2007 8:18:36 GMT -5
For one thing, I hate short results; they can really kick the effort put into an rp and feud. Due to the turnout this week, I was close to actually doing just that. The results will be up soon.
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 28, 2007 9:54:02 GMT -5
For one thing, I hate short results; they can really kick the effort put into an rp and feud. Due to the turnout this week, I was close to actually doing just that. The results will be up soon. Yeah, but no one reads the results anyways.  You know, I agree 100% with just about everything Calvin said. The whole "well, we're waiting for someone to send a match in" is a bullcrapexcuse, especially considering it's been what? At least a week since the deadline has been up? Not to mention it seems you never even told you were waiting for JD to send something in. I have no real sympathy for the entire "well, results are hard" deal. There's weeks where JD, Obo, possibly Blaze, and myself all write matches to go along with the owners. You have people helping you, yet results are still, at the very least it seems, a week after the roleplaying deadline. I'm not trying to call any of you out, but this is getting pretty bad. You expect people to roleplay in a given time period, shouldn't you be doing for the same for the results? Seacrest out. |
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Post by CBT on Jun 28, 2007 13:00:12 GMT -5
I'm not even gonna read another Lee post, I don't need to ask Mike to say if I asked to help or not. I've asked 4 times on seperate occasions, and only one match has been passed my way. I was told only 1 match is being waited on. I was also told how long Mike was gonna wait for it, and that's why I made the comment I did following Obo's so that JD would get it to Mike. If your gonna take sh*t with me, I'll happily hook you up with the personal messages I sent, trying to help in anyway possible. I'm pissed enough that the moment Rev left, somewhat.... everything went to hell. Myself and him both wanted August to come around and Superbrawl V to happen. That's very unlikely though unless we cut a major ppv, which is just a sh*tty booking decision. So yeah,  you Lee. I can say that because I'm just a normal old poster, and you don't have a clue what your talking about. kthnxbi |
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Post by flaps2 on Jun 28, 2007 17:38:47 GMT -5
. I DID NOT GET PINNED BUT I DID TAKE IT IN THE ASS AFTER THE MATCH COZ I'M A TART And I thought we had something special  |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 28, 2007 18:03:42 GMT -5
Josh Dean did't even know he had a match to write, did no one remind him? Like no offense, but you can't tell someone a week before the deadline to write a match, and not even check up on him to see how things are going. I'm sorry, but after going through FLAPS, and then Trent, and then Kyzer, and all the late results we had, It's to the point where you guys get it together, and learn to get results up a day after, or just lose everyone here because they are sick and tired of waiting for results. It's as simple as this, people offer help fro match writting. Tell them which matches they need to write. When the deadline is close, pm them asking how things are going. What happened to the whole "if you don't have the matches to me the day BEFORE the deadline you can't write matches anymore" policy? I remember Rev had that. If they dont' answer you, just say you and write it yourself, or get someone else to write one quickly. I know it takes maybe, MAYBE a half hour to write even a page long match. I did it in XWA, week in, and week out. And those were detailed matches, with commentary. That's what I don't get. Why you guys wait for a match. You shouldn't have to wait. If the person isn't doing their job, fire them, the find someone else. That's how it works int he real world. We have a deadline to rp, you should have a deadline for results and match writting. I can see if JD had problems, but he admitted he forgot. I have a problem with that, and CBT, the only reason things have gone to hell is well, when Rev left, so did all the organization skills he had, and like, communication skills, since it's like, so hard to get a hold of you, or mike. And like, we wouldn't be a week behind in PPVs if results were on time too, that's just me opinion. Whatever, you can hate me all you want. I'm just saying what most people are probably thinking. I've just been holding this in, and now I just don't care anymore, so I'm just telling you how I see it, whether you like it or not. |
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Post by CBT on Jun 28, 2007 20:04:02 GMT -5
As much as this goes with a no partnership angle you think you got, simply put Mike is adjusting and he put everything together. I've offered countless times, and I'm not gonna make any excuses.
You know what I really don't like though is you putting Rev on a pedastol when neither him or I wanted to be owner without the other. Truth is we helped eachother without needing to make it a public scenario. So yeah, fine.... you think I'm not as organized as him. I get it. I dunno your point. I'm no way responsible for this, and if I was asked to write my match I would, hell without being asked. But I can't fight the hand and act like Mike is not capable of taking charge of the situation.
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Post by thesouthsidekid on Jun 28, 2007 20:43:01 GMT -5
Look guys it was my bad, i've been at work a lot in the last couple weeks, hence why I didn't even get a chance to rp. Does anyone know wether Mike got the match in or is he still waiting on me.
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Post by CBT on Jun 28, 2007 22:34:55 GMT -5
Look guys it was my bad, i've been at work a lot in the last couple weeks, hence why I didn't even get a chance to rp. Does anyone know wether Mike got the match in or is he still waiting on me. I dunno, but I will say your apology is void because the argument isn't really over who reliable. But rather Lee saying we are sitting waiting for people to do our bidding, when we should be doing it ourself. Newsflash though, neither Mike or myself are getting lazy or none of that. Some people prefer to write a match, Dean is a great writer and in the case of E, he writes stuff he's involved with, so I don't see the point in bitching at somebody whose usually reliable for having an off week. Oh boy is this my future? I guess no one wants to see Lee vs CBT in a WFWF ring, so we're gonna take it outside of one?  I feel dumb for even commenting on Lee's continuous comments. I wonder if Rev at least is reading them because I agree Rev when not stressed is a fantastic owner. |
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Post by veronicaaaahhhh on Jun 28, 2007 23:48:27 GMT -5
If it all falls into place, expect the results up by noon, EST.
EDIT: I can completely understand where you're all coming from. But coming from a guy who'd once write an entire eight match card (for an old fed), on his own; my style of match writing may differer from someone else, but there are times when writing these things do take some time. Depending on what I've written in the match, and my creative energy, I could take somewhere between twenty minutes to an actual day to write a match; my RP'S take me sometimes four days to get done. There are times when I find myself stuck in the middle of writing a match. In the matches I write, I want it to reflect on the effort put into an RP, but aswell as the individual wrestling style of the character.
Yes there have been a couple delays, but these are only nothing but a couple minor setbacks. In all honesty, due in part to the turnout, this card was a lot easier to write than the last one.
The delay won't derail any plans.
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Post by jesterslaugh on Jun 29, 2007 0:28:24 GMT -5
This is one reason I miss the XWA.
Sure we didn't do long arse promo's and such, but the matches were either done on the deadline or you lost.
Thats pretty much the only reason I miss that place.
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Post by CBT on Jun 29, 2007 1:06:48 GMT -5
Craig the WFWF has always had hot and cold periods, no real excuse to be made it's just a fault.
I know right now may seem like a letdown, and that's tough to write. But I think of peoples feelings of the Higher Authority era, which I personally credit as us both being guys who wanted WFWF's sh*t back in order. Think of Drakz and Kyzer... you know it's funny.
See, the results are becoming a week behind, but it's hardly an embarassment to the fed. I've seen far worse.
Meh. This could sound alot better if I did look like everybody else.... if you get my drift. Envy may be green, but blue is so depressing.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Jun 29, 2007 2:46:26 GMT -5
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Post by Master of Destruction on Jun 29, 2007 5:42:49 GMT -5
The funny thing is, people seem to be seeing this as a real important thing, it's an e-fed. If results suck so be it. However to add my two cents to them being late, maybe the time spent arguing about it in here could have been used to actually finish them?
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Post by Calvin on Jun 29, 2007 6:15:29 GMT -5
what I said, is if someone is late with their match and havent' told you why, you shouldn't wait forever for them. Simple as that, because as Dean said, he's been busyt at work. He wanted a week off writting a match. Fine, then just write it your own. I still think it's so much easier if you had one or two paragraph matches, because me personally, I don't care what happens inthematch, just how it finishes.
Oh, and just a little thing, I remember a time wheny ou told me I couldn't write my own matches,yet you let EBR, and Josh Dean write their own...kinda went south ont hat there dind't you on the whole "I dont' think I can let you write your own matches because we have certain people who write matches."
But anyways, I dont' see why we need detailed matches. It's just my opinon. HOnestly, I skim through the matches, including mine, I really only just read the segments. That's all I care for.
Here's what I propose we do for now on. It seemed to work when Rev and CBT were owner. If someone wants to write a match, tell them they ahve until the day before the deadline to get it in. And whatever the reason may be, if they don't get it in, write it yourself or find someone else to do a quick job of one. That way, all the matches are basically done, and you just have to add endings. And that takes what, 5 minutes for each match. Thats just my opinion on it though, take it ot leave it. I think it's a great idea, we used it before, and we should use it again.
I dunno, it seems to me that most people would agree that results aren't a HUGE deal if they suck. MOD seems to not care, I know I don't, I don't thinK EBR does either. As long as we all know who won and how they won, that's all that matters. Anyways, I think I am done with this. It's been a day now since we all knew Dean said he has been busy, and still there is no match. I think it's getting to the point where someone should just make whatever, hell, just tell me who won, and I'll whip a match together in 15 minutes. Because I know it takes only that long to write a decent match that is maybe a half page long.
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