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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jan 25, 2008 14:53:00 GMT -5
why would I be teaming with Dead Idol anyways? what connection do we have? Just because we are buddies OOC, doesn't mean we are going to do anything together IC. Besides, who says my partner has even ever been here? Ever heard of a guy named Steve Stennick? everyone thinking they even have half a clue what's going on is funny to me. I think its funny how obvious it is that you and Dead Idol are more than just friends OOC, yet you keep pretending otherwise. And I have heard of Steve Stennick, of the Park Avenue Stennicks... I met him once at a cheese and wine party, and we discussed the ever burgeoning market of homemade trailer park pornography. Fascinating fellow... |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 25, 2008 15:50:49 GMT -5
Ok, this is just a little bit of fun for me really. Hopefully most agree. This has got to be by far the most random super brawl I've EVER seen. Lets to match by match to explain why. Superbrawl V Main Event
WFWF World Heavyweight Title Match[/b][/size]  WFWF World Heavyweight Champion Thunder vs 2007 Scars and Stripes Battle Royal Winner EBRThis match looks good on paper, but isn't living up to the hype it should be. I don't really see a feud here. Honestly, I don't think EBR himself really is pissed at Thunder. (IC obviously). It just comes off as a regular title match in my opinion. WFWF Tag Team Championship Match
Four Team Tag Scramble[/b] WFWF Tag Team Champions The Axis (Wayne McGurk and Kurt Burton) vs Chemical Reaction (High Horror and David Williams) vs The Survivors (Flamez and Shawn Roberts) vs Obo and ?This match lost interest to me when horror started bitching about people being randomly added into what was meant to be a random tag team scramble from the start. But it's nice to see the tag team devision with action. Ladder Match
Winner Receives A WFWF Title Match That Can Be Used Up Until Superbrawl VI[/b] Reverend Shadow vs Yukio BlazeThis by far is the most random match, and there's no hype to it whatsoever. I actaully think this match is the worst match on the card to be honest. Not because really both randomly got this match for no reason really, but because the match was made, and absolutely NOTHING has been done to make it interesting. Womens Gauntlet Match
WFWF Womens Title Match[/u] Vanessa McGurk vs Candi Starlight vs Kat Hamilton vs Ayn Guish vs Kagura Himecho vs Emily Star vs Barbie LoveIf it wasn't for Meg saying she plans to fight in the mens devision, I'd say she is a must in this match. I just hope all these females don't disappear and this title crashes yet again. WFWF International Title Match
Triple Threat Match[/b] WFWF International Champion Johnny Valentine vs Luther Castle vs Calvin LeeThis is like one of the only matches I see with a feud/storyline in it, and that makes sense. I've done my hardest to make this interesting, although I have failed in showing the past few weeks. It still has it's meaning. And my rp at SB will make that be seen. WFWF National Championship Match[/b] WFWF National Champion Pierce Deville vs Tha CBTCBT will no show, so really just give Deville the victory now. Grudge Match
The Future Of The WFWF[/b] Reckless vs D.CI haven't heard of D.C. in a few weeks. Someone may wanna remind him he's to rp for SB. Justin Tyme Returns To The WFWF
Moneyshot Title Match and Perfect Superbrawl Record[/b] Moneyshot Champion Justin Tyme vs The Dead Idolagain, I haven't seen Tyme around in a week or two. And Dead Idol, well he's so underrated he'll probably lose because of that. Ultimate Singles Match
Who Exactly Is Better[/b] Napoleon Weisgarber vs King KraigWhy would you team up two team mates for absolutely no reason at all? That's like saying oh, just for him Kurt and Thunder will face each other. It's stupid. Put them in a tag match or something. Gateway At Opportunity
Winner Will Get A Guaranteed Loaded Contract[/b] Trace Demon vs Jay MayhemHonestly, I've seen so many contract matches and seen so many people on loaded just for the sake of needed people as it is I see the stips to this match as nothing really. Motor City Mayhem Match
WFWF Hardcore Championship Match[/b] Jake Slash vs Vinson Evorett vs Juba vs Yohan Turdler vs BJ Rockerit's probalby best to drop the hardcore title because I really haven't heard about it in months, and it's become a title that no one really is interested in.. except Slash. Opening Match[/b] Wez and Tristan Twilight vs The Revolting Blob and Sean Scott This match may have meaning, I'm not sure. It just seems as a house show random match up. Which I suppose is okay. Dark Match[/b] Steve Nyangal vs Lewis Varon vs K1LL3R 1NSTINKT 3[/center][/quote] And these guys are on Superbrawl why? I suppose dark matches mean nothing though so who really knows. Honestly, I think maybe two or three matches out of this whole card, are storylined. This is our BIGGEST PPV. All feuds should end here.. or hit their max here. Last year, we had Rev and Kyzer go at it. That feud was amazing. We had so many better feuds last year. We need more feuds and less twists. And I'm not saying that, I really mean it. Lets hope starting after SB things are not more things no one sees and more storylines that are interesting. To be honest, I'd rather have an interesting storyline over an interesting stipulation any day. Sorry, but it had to be said.. |
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jan 25, 2008 16:02:44 GMT -5
Two corrections to your thing here Calvin and the Hipmunks.
#1.) The only match going with a strong build is the tag match... You Calvin and Luther build has very little to it since you haven't RP'd and don't do promos... but Obo and the Axis going at it in various different matches does give our match some build... plus the five promos between me and Horror to build up our feud, and Flamez randomly attacking CR all over the place.
2.) I would like to point out for the record,we only found out that it was always going to be a scramble a couple days ago. When the match was first booked, it was just CR vs Axis... then a couple weeks later Flamez and Shawn added themselves in to the match. Now Obo has, and McGurk said it was the plan all along. Once again, not bitching, but if you are going to call someone out, at least get your facts straight, otherwise, you look as dumb as the Democratic Presidential Nominees.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 25, 2008 16:04:28 GMT -5
Calvin/Luther has been built up for like five months and hasn't even reached the peak yet.
So...yeah.
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Post by Calvin on Jan 25, 2008 16:06:16 GMT -5
Two corrections to your thing here Calvin and the Hipmunks. #1.) The only match going with a strong build is the tag match... You Calvin and Luther build has very little to it since you haven't RP'd and don't do promos... but Obo and the Axis going at it in various different matches does give our match some build... plus the five promos between me and Horror to build up our feud, and Flamez randomly attacking CR all over the place. I've been building up Luther and Lee for months now. YOu just haven't read my rps. Yes these past three weeks I haven't rped, but read my OTHER stuff. I never said your match didn't have build. I said HORROR'S BITCHING made me lose interest. This was no shot at you. Are you as blind as horror? Once again, I never said your match wasn't hyped. I said horror is the reason I'm not interested. |
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Post by kingofgoreobo on Jan 25, 2008 16:13:59 GMT -5
I had a total of three different feuds set up into Superbrawl. They all either fell apart, were compremised, or were with people that wanted to do nothing and just have a stip match for the sake of a stip match.
The extreme amounts of shuffling and reshuffling of this card has killed it. I know Shadow had a good feud set up with Kyzer, which was killed when Kyzer left, and instead of building on it, with someone possibly taking Kyzer out, it was just moved to a random match with Yukio, with no feud or reasoning. Yukio's version of Money in the Bank.
The Gateway to Opportunity match was neat the first time, because it actually meant something. Now, basicly every house show guy is on every Loaded anyways, and Jay Mayhem is about the worst House show guy anyways, so it makes no sense for him to be pegged as the top of the breed.
The dark match, the Hardcore title match, and the opening match are pointless, thrown together matches with newcomers, which would really benefit from a pre-show or something off of Superbrawl. Tyme versus Idol falls into this same catagory. It also is quite intellectually- disabled that Kamardo is being allowed to stay in the federation after all the underhanded bullcraphe's pulled.
Touching on Tyme/Idol more, it's about the most non-sensible match of all of Superbrawl, which really says something. It's for Tyme's pretend championship, and Idol won a tournament to earn that shot, instead of a shot at a real and recognized championship, which the three people he beat get a shot at? When he asked why he should care about that match, he was simply told he shouldn't. What kind of motivation is that? A non-feud into a Pay Per View match for a fake title.. Fantastic.
King Kraig versus Nepoleon Weisgarber is a pathetic thrown together match that Yukio doesn't even know why he added. Great way to re-establish a tag team division, Yukes.
DC/Reckless is random and thrown together with no feud.
Deville/CBT could have been a good feud with a nice blow off, but CBT is an idiot and ruined anything that was thrown to him. He's going to no-show anyways.
The women's title match is going to be a complete squash, considering it's a bunch of new comers versus Wayne, essentially..
The Tag Title match COULD be good.. and I've explained until I am blue in the face why I make sense in it, but Horror's constant bitching about the match, and the whining from Horror & Burton about the mystery partner, adding in Flamez and Flamez's other charecter as a valid team.. those combined elements really ruin the match, for me at least. Plus I still don't get this huge angle that was supposedly built up..
EBR versus Thunder is more of a one way feud than Deville & CBT. It feels like a good Loaded main event. Not a Superbrawl main event.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 25, 2008 16:48:55 GMT -5
I was told to give my comments on the SB card. *shrugs* [/b][/size] WFWF World Heavyweight Champion Thunder vs 2007 Scars and Stripes Battle Royal Winner EBR[/quote] *shrugs* I enjoy what I've done thus far. Of course my angle only really starts after SB, making my RP for SB uninspiring to write. Hrm. [/b] WFWF Tag Team Champions The Axis (Wayne McGurk and Kurt Burton) vs Chemical Reaction (High Horror and David Williams) vs The Survivors (Flamez and Shawn Roberts) vs Obo and ?[/quote] I love multiple storylines coming together which is what this is, so naturally this one of the three matches I care about. But, I do find it funny Horror says Obo has no right to be in the match even though he's been feuding the Axis for a few months now, and even in the last month has faced them in tag matches. He has just as much of a right in this as anyone does, especially for storyline purposes. And really, why didn't anyone say anything when The Survivors were added? Again, hrm. [/b] Reverend Shadow vs Yukio Blaze[/quote] I feel for Rev cause he vs. Kyzer would have been great. But I agree with Calvin, this is random mainly cause if you read the results/RPs you'd never know this match was even booked. [/u] Vanessa McGurk vs Candi Starlight vs Kat Hamilton vs Ayn Guish vs Kagura Himecho vs Emily Star vs Barbie Love[/quote] Do we really need a Women's Title? Can't they just RP against everyone else? Equality plz. [/b] WFWF International Champion Johnny Valentine vs Luther Castle vs Calvin Lee[/quote] Good match. Good title defense. Also involves an angle. Well played overall. [/b] WFWF National Champion Pierce Deville vs Tha CBT[/quote] I don't even get why they're facing, and I don't get why CBT would get a title shot in his last match unless this is a way of taking the belt off Deville and setting up a tournament... ...sorta like CBT vs. Wayne McGurk. ...Watch out? Meh, only one guy can do so much with one feud. Which is funny, cause he wasn't even the one who asked for it. [/b] Reckless vs D.C[/quote] "Grudge match" really gets thrown around far too often. [/b] Moneyshot Champion Justin Tyme vs The Dead Idol[/quote] Until Obo said something I had no idea how illogical this match was. Heh. [/b] Napoleon Weisgarber vs King Kraig[/quote] I get this feeling Napoleon vs. KK will almost be like foreshadowing Thunder vs. EBR. Why two partners are facing each other I'll never know, however. [/b] Trace Demon vs Jay Mayhem[/quote] Jay Mayhem's already booked on Loaded fairly often and Trace should. A little illogical, but meh. [/b] Jake Slash vs Vinson Evorett vs Juba vs Yohan Turdler vs BJ Rocker[/quote] Meh. Another match that's for something. [/b] Wez and Tristan Twilight vs The Revolting Blob and Sean Scott Dark Match[/b] Steve Nyangal vs Lewis Varon vs K1LL3R 1NSTINKT 3[/center][/quote] Here's what I don't really get. A guy like Trace has to earn a Loaded contract yet guys who have never even posted a RP here are on SB (dark match or not)? The big problem I see is there's only two matches (four if you count the dark matches) that aren't for something. And one of them involves a team facing each other for no reason. |
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Post by kingkraig on Jan 25, 2008 16:49:57 GMT -5
why teh hell am i facing napoleon i mean seriously its just plane stupid makes know sense
were partners theres no reseon for us to face each ofter randmonly napoleons my homie id never fight him
book us in teh tag match or dont book us at all but dont do stupid craplike dis
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Jan 25, 2008 16:52:35 GMT -5
If you can find a case where I bitched about the mystery partner, or whined... be it in PM's or on one of these threads... please post it, otherwise I will state I never had a problem with the mystery partner, and neither did Horror. We had problems with you two being added to a match that had a strong angle building up to it, and you came in with no warning, pretty much ruining mine and his plans... Now Wayne did take responcibility, so that is not an attack on you. But first you say it is all about him not winning, then it is all about a mystery partner.... and this entire time you have been ripping in and bashing people without listening to anything they say. Please... stop.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 25, 2008 16:55:16 GMT -5
I don't recall anyone saying you whined about it. But someone did, especially when that someone sent someone else a PM and told them to take themselves out of the match.
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Post by Thunder on Jan 25, 2008 17:03:45 GMT -5
I admit that I really haven't done much for results to build up my match, although I did co-write a segment this week, so at least I've contributed more than CBT (and plus, I'm not going to no show). As far as being our WrestleMania, this show doesn't have the feel of having matches that we should care about. There's only a couple exceptions to that, and they've already been brought up. The equivalent to the MITB match is the biggest culprit of no build up. In WWE, that's one of the biggest pushed matches, and it should be because there's something important on the line. And yet, our version of the match hasn't been mentioned. It's a good thing we look at the cards, because otherwise we'd have no clue this match is happening. And why would tag partners face each for no reason? If you want to improve the tag division, the right way isn't to break a team up for no reason whatsoever.
And EBR is right about the STUFF on the line in matches. There doesn't need to be something on the line in every single match. Two guys can have a feud without having to have a title or something involved. Anybody remember the Foley/Flair feud from a couple years back? That was fantastic and it the reason they were feuding couldn't have been any more simple. They didn't like each other. That was it and it was built up great by promos.
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Post by Markw on Jan 25, 2008 17:07:05 GMT -5
why didn't anyone say anything when The Survivors were added? Again, hrm. PM's  We just never mentioned anything in this thread. |
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Post by kingofgoreobo on Jan 25, 2008 17:08:12 GMT -5
Horror has sent me a bunch of PMs complaining, as well as countless posts on the board.
A lot of hostility there, which can be detected in the sarcastic wording and stuff like 'how in the hell'.
Pretty insulting, honestly. To suggest that I wouldn't take a TITLE match seriously.
Horror's also sent me several PMs to the likes of "it's pretty unfair for me to not know who the partner is" (albiet, I can't find them at the moment), and the tons of postings on the board.
You yourself haven't complained that much, but by defending Horror and his stupidity, you catch it. It's like herpes. You mess around too much, and you catch it.
It's been asked like ten times.. and no answer yet.. but why aren't you complaining about The Survivors being added? I personally, from the perspective of a 'higher up' in the fed, have a problem with them being added, considering both members of the team are controlled by one person. That defeats the purpose of the Tag titles, considering it takes no team work to work with yourself, but I degress. Why is Flamez and Flamez not as huge of a problem as Obo and the mystery partner? Because Flamez has contributed segments? I did one last week when I was added to the match (explaining the in charecter motivations and what exactly I am looking to achieve) and have the one coming up this week.
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Post by recklessmatten on Jan 25, 2008 17:11:22 GMT -5
I feel that there is alot of miscommunication. I really think any changes made, people concerned should be pmed. I mean, i was in Hardcore Title match, and i have my rp written for that specific match. So im taken from a title shot (but i know why) and i gotta write a new Rp.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 25, 2008 17:15:14 GMT -5
PM's We just never mentioned anything in this thread. So why would you publicly bring it up in regards to Obo?  |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 25, 2008 17:15:26 GMT -5
If you can find a case where I bitched about the mystery partner, or whined... be it in PM's or on one of these threads... please post it, otherwise I will state I never had a problem with the mystery partner, and neither did Horror. We had problems with you two being added to a match that had a strong angle building up to it, and you came in with no warning, pretty much ruining mine and his plans... Now Wayne did take responcibility, so that is not an attack on you. But first you say it is all about him not winning, then it is all about a mystery partner.... and this entire time you have been ripping in and bashing people without listening to anything they say. Please... stop. well to start things off: Idol did no show the week after I beat him, ironically. That I am positive on. Because the week he no showed I faced Josh Dean in one of those "Win and you get a contract" things. Another match was Johnny Malice vs. Reckless. Reckless and Dean advanced...so I remember perfect. And Deville, maybe he did not. But remember I was gone for a couple months...so I do not know... We have basically come to the conclusion it's Deville (Well I Have) And I don't remember him ever no showing I get the vibe out of that that they are all like "omg Deville may be the mystery partner" and that they have a problem with it. They also were going on about EBR being a possible partner. Now, I know you are going to say they weren't bitching here, but if you read betweent he lines, they clearly have a problem with Deville being in this match, if he is in fact the mystery partner. Once again, I will state a third time, I was never saying that you were whining or bitching or anything. I was stating that horror was complaining. Maybe you are as blind as horror. |
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Post by Markw on Jan 25, 2008 17:18:45 GMT -5
If you can find a case where I bitched about the mystery partner, or whined... be it in PM's or on one of these threads... please post it, otherwise I will state I never had a problem with the mystery partner, and neither did Horror. We had problems with you two being added to a match that had a strong angle building up to it, and you came in with no warning, pretty much ruining mine and his plans... Now Wayne did take responcibility, so that is not an attack on you. But first you say it is all about him not winning, then it is all about a mystery partner.... and this entire time you have been ripping in and bashing people without listening to anything they say. Please... stop. well to start things off: We have basically come to the conclusion it's Deville (Well I Have) And I don't remember him ever no showing I get the vibe out of that that they are all like "omg Deville may be the mystery partner" and that they have a problem with it. They also were going on about EBR being a possible partner. Now, I know you are going to say they weren't bitching here, but if you read betweent he lines, they clearly have a problem with Deville being in this match, if he is in fact the mystery partner. Once again, I will state a third time, I was never saying that you were whining or bitching or anything. I was stating that horror was complaining. Maybe you are as blind as horror. I have no problem with Deville being the partner, because frankly I didn't think we stood a chance when it was just Chemical Reaction v The Axis |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 25, 2008 17:39:48 GMT -5
and thats why you never go anywhere in this feud. IF you look at things so negatively of course you're going to lose. It's called stepping up and using the match to spark some inspiration for a great rp.
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Post by One Love on Jan 25, 2008 19:43:01 GMT -5
Will you guys just stop bitching. It's a efed on a message board. More fake then WWE. It's nothing to stress over, you don't like me being added to the match? TOO BAD. I was placed in the match, I DID NOT HAVE A DESCISION. Obo was placed in the match. HE DID NOT HAVE A DESCISION. Whether you like it or not Obo had a continuing feud with the Axis, Survivors were leading into a feud with CR, Shawn's last match. GET THE  OVER IT!! |
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Post by Wez on Jan 25, 2008 19:53:44 GMT -5
[/b] Wez and Tristan Twilight vs The Revolting Blob and Sean Scott Dark Match[/b] Steve Nyangal vs Lewis Varon vs K1LL3R 1NSTINKT 3[/center][/quote] Here's what I don't really get. A guy like Trace has to earn a Loaded contract yet guys who have never even posted a RP here are on SB (dark match or not)? The big problem I see is there's only two matches (four if you count the dark matches) that aren't for something. And one of them involves a team facing each other for no reason.[/quote] I have RPd here 3 times already since coming back this month and I think they were pretty decent RPs. I love how you just grouped everyone in those matches together like that. It's no wonder people are always annoyed here. |
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