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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 16, 2009 23:58:48 GMT -5
There's a new WWE book out called "Showdowns" that chronicles the 20 greatest rivalries of the last 20 years (WWF/WWE only). Three of the choices are absurd. Here's the 20:
Now, I don't even remember a rivalry between Mr Perfect and Ric Flair other than a really short-term one that appeared out of nowhere as an excuse for the "loser leaves" match that Flair lost before heading back to WCW.
Shawn Michaels vs Mankind was also not anything like a rivalry worth mentioning. They had one match on PPV, which was good, but ended in loads of outside interference because they were feuding with other people even at the time.
And DX vs the NWO wasn't even a feud - anywhere. Presumably that's in there as an intepromotional rivalry, but it doesn't make sense considering WCW has been ignored in the listing otherwise. Plus there was never even a sign of DX and the NWO being enemies, if anything they were friends. If WCW had to be acknowledged as a rival promotion, then WWE vs WCW, or Bischoff vs McMahon, would've made more sense.
I also consider Rey Mysterio vs Eddie Guerrero a lowpoint for both men - every aspect of the feud was either disappointing or crap. Apart from that, the list is pretty solid.
Anyway folks, which feuds do you think it's a shame to have not been included?
For my money, I'd take out the four I mentioned and replace with:
Bret Hart vs Owen Hart
Mankind vs Undertaker
WWF vs Alliance
Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 17, 2009 0:31:29 GMT -5
20 Top Rivalries in no order should be...
1)Savage vs Steamboat 2)Hogan vs Andre 3)Hogan vs Savage 4)Austin vs B. Hart 5)Austin vs O. Hart 6)Bret vs HBK 7)HBK vs Marty 8)Austin vs Rock 9)Rock vs Mankind 10)Mankind vs Undertaker 11)Bret vs Owen 12)Triple H vs Rock 13)Kane vs Undertaker 14)Austin vs McMahon 15)Hardys vs Edge & Christian 16)Rockers vs Orient Express (Cmon they kicked off every PPV from 89 to 91) 17)Flair vs Piper 18)DX vs Hart Foundation 19)Hart Foundation vs British Bulldogs 20)Flair vs McMahon
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Post by Raine on Jan 17, 2009 9:06:17 GMT -5
In no particular order:
1. Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant 2. Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man Randy 3. Macho Man Randy Savage vs Ricky The Dragon Steamboat 4. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Bret The Hitman Hart 5. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs The Rock 6. Bret The Hitman Hart vs Shawn Michaels 7. Mankind vs The Undertaker 8. The Undertaker vs Kane 9. The Rock vs Mankind 10. Bret The Hitman Hart vs Owen Hart 11. Triple H vs The Rock 12. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Mr.McMahon 13. The Hardy Boyz vs Edge & Christian 14. The Hart Foundation vs The British Bulldogs 15. Hulk Hogan vs Rowdy Roddy Piper 16. Shawn Michaels vs Triple H 17. Brock Lesnar vs Kurt Angle 18. Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels 19. Edge vs The Undertaker 20. The Ultimate Warrior vs Ravishing Rick Rude
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Post by pineappleexpress on Jan 17, 2009 9:10:38 GMT -5
Austin/Rock is the greatest in my mind.
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Post by craignwo4life on Jan 17, 2009 9:50:53 GMT -5
Can't believe they didn't include Tito Santana V Rick Martel !!
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Post by Juba on Jan 17, 2009 12:02:02 GMT -5
the fact mankind/taker isnt even a choice i cant take this list seriously
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Post by scottsteiner on Jan 17, 2009 12:33:14 GMT -5
Jericho/Michaels should be in there fo sho.
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Post by madness1 on Jan 17, 2009 13:24:11 GMT -5
Yeah that list is a joke. Starting at ten ending at the 1 greatest. Drum roll plz...
20. Hardy's vs Edge and Christian (crazy matches) 19. Hogan vs Orndorf (best cage match ending ever) 18. Undertaker vs Austin (best raw moment ever imo when Austin saved Steph) 17. Kurt Angle HBK (show stealers ever time they went at it) 16. Hart Foundation vs British Bulldogs (best tag team rivalries) 15. Undertaker vs HBK (best HITC match) 14. HHH vs The Rock (great rivals) 13. Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair (perhaps the greatest matches ever) 12. HBK vs. Jericho (my fav. WM match ever) 11. Brock Lesnar vs Angle (great matches every time they went at it) 10. Austin vs. Bret Hart (stole the show in Austin's face turn) 9. Undertaker vs Mankind (most seen bump ever) 8. Bret vs Owen Hart (best sibilng rivalry in wrestling) 7. Mankind vs The Rock (best surpise champ ever) 6. Hogan vs. Andre (best friends become bitter enimes in the most famous match ever) 5. Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes(couldn't get any more diffrent personalities) 4. Austin vs Rock (my favorite rivalry) 3.Hulk Hogan vs. Macho Man (megapowers explode!! Hogan's best WM match) 2. Vince McMahon vs Steve Austin (probably the best storyline ever) 1. HBK vs Bret Hart (they still hate eachother and are involved in the most contaversal match of all time and many consider the great WM match of all time)
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Post by Scarlet Begonias on Jan 17, 2009 14:54:27 GMT -5
Lita vs. Trish! A 7 year long feud, with excellent matches.
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Post by The Boglin on Jan 17, 2009 16:06:41 GMT -5
20 Top Rivalries in no order should be... 1)Savage vs Steamboat 2)Hogan vs Andre 3)Hogan vs Savage 4)Austin vs B. Hart 5)Austin vs O. Hart 6)Bret vs HBK 7)HBK vs Marty 8)Austin vs Rock 9)Rock vs Mankind 10)Mankind vs Undertaker 11)Bret vs Owen 12)Triple H vs Rock 13)Kane vs Undertaker 14)Austin vs McMahon 15)Hardys vs Edge & Christian 16)Rockers vs Orient Express (Cmon they kicked off every PPV from 89 to 91) 17)Flair vs Piper 18)DX vs Hart Foundation 19)Hart Foundation vs British Bulldogs 20)Flair vs McMahon they said from the last 20 years though
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Post by Bruiser Brody on Jan 17, 2009 23:29:56 GMT -5
One that is under rated is the Val Venis vs. Rikishi feud. Not top 20 material but worth mentioning.
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 18, 2009 2:28:09 GMT -5
20 Top Rivalries in no order should be... 1)Savage vs Steamboat 2)Hogan vs Andre 3)Hogan vs Savage 4)Austin vs B. Hart 5)Austin vs O. Hart 6)Bret vs HBK 7)HBK vs Marty 8)Austin vs Rock 9)Rock vs Mankind 10)Mankind vs Undertaker 11)Bret vs Owen 12)Triple H vs Rock 13)Kane vs Undertaker 14)Austin vs McMahon 15)Hardys vs Edge & Christian 16)Rockers vs Orient Express (Cmon they kicked off every PPV from 89 to 91) 17)Flair vs Piper 18)DX vs Hart Foundation 19)Hart Foundation vs British Bulldogs 20)Flair vs McMahon they said from the last 20 years though Well, we can mark off the top 2 then and you can add the above mentioned Warrior vs Rude and maybe Bossman vs Mountie?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 11:08:16 GMT -5
the fact mankind/taker isnt even a choice i cant take this list seriously True.that feud ran from Beware Of The Dog in May 96 until mid 98 on and off...... awesome feud
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Post by T1 on Jan 18, 2009 11:11:59 GMT -5
Can't believe Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H didn't make it..
Stone Cold vs. Triple H was also pretty big..
Obviously it wouldn't make it because of a certain somebody, but Benoit/Angle have had like 10 significant matches that were all classics.
Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 11:16:57 GMT -5
Can't believe Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H didn't make it.. Stone Cold vs. Triple H was also pretty big.. Obviously it wouldn't make it because of a certain somebody, but Benoit/Angle have had like 10 significant matches that were all classics. Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart yeah Benoit and Anle was awesome too.their match at RR 2003 was unreal.cracking effort
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Post by jomoishollywood on Jan 18, 2009 15:55:57 GMT -5
Austin/Rock is the greatest in my mind. Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 21:04:41 GMT -5
Austin VS McMahon?
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