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Post by man on Jan 28, 2009 10:54:40 GMT -5
Goku is viewed by many fans and organizations as the Japanese equivalent of Superman, the world famous comic book superhero created by DC Comics. There are also many similarities between Goku and Superman. Both have similar origins (sent to another planet, home worlds destroyed, found by a nice elderly person who raised him as his own) and powers (super strength, super speed, flight, nigh-invulnerability) and both characters have died and been resurrected. In the 133rd edition (September 2002) of Wizard Magazine, a hypothetical Superman vs. Goku match up was published. Goku won the fight quite easily, needing to just tap into the first Super Saiyan level to defeat Superman. This became a target of criticism, since the writer of the article used incorrect information about the characters. Later that year, Wizard did a tally at the Toronto Fan Expo and New York Comicon on who would win. Over 80% of all people said Superman defeats Goku, but there are many factors to be considered and it is uncertain. Most importantly, the characters were designed for two totally different universes, and what is "powerful" for DC comics is different than what is "powerful" for Dragon Ball Z. Power in general is difficult to measure in the Dragon Ball story line. As far as many of Goku's abilities go when compared to Superman, it is unclear to show how strong Goku is because of his lack of consistency in his feats which demonstrate his great power. DC and Marvel actually already have problems with their differing power levels, and often ignore some factors to equalize things whenever they cross over. Goku vs. Superman will remain a hotly-debated topic for a long time to come.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 28, 2009 11:04:31 GMT -5
As I hate Superman, I pick Goku.
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Post by Ultimo619 on Jan 28, 2009 11:09:53 GMT -5
Genki Dama + energy from Krypton or any of its remains laying/floating around = death of Superman.
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Post by T R W on Jan 28, 2009 12:24:11 GMT -5
I think Dragonball is pretty gay, so I will go with Superman.
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Post by Nitro on Jan 28, 2009 13:04:37 GMT -5
Goku would win with a spirit bomb. If all else fails hed just fuse with Vegeta and form Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta which in my opinion is the strongest character in any universe ever. (yes even more powerful than god lol)
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Post by chumped on Jan 28, 2009 14:08:53 GMT -5
Yeah.... Superman can beat a lot of mother ers... Goku ain't one of them.
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Post by T R W on Jan 28, 2009 14:26:43 GMT -5
Superman will fly so fast he will travel back in time, and prevent Goku from ever existing.
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Post by Ultimo619 on Jan 28, 2009 14:48:45 GMT -5
Goku was born on planet Vegeta before coming to earth. That being said if Superman were to go to planet Vegeta while Freeza was killing all the Saiyans then superman would have to face not only a bunch of Saiyans but freeza and his men as well assuming they all band together.
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Post by T R W on Jan 28, 2009 14:55:53 GMT -5
Those guys are chumps though. Superman would uppercut their gonads through their skulls.
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Post by Ultimo619 on Jan 28, 2009 15:08:19 GMT -5
lol! Ok you've got me there.
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Post by WWF Sim Fed on Jan 28, 2009 15:10:33 GMT -5
Superman destroys ALL!!!! Never really was a big fan of Goku.
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Post by Nitro on Jan 28, 2009 16:12:28 GMT -5
I think Dragonball is pretty gay, so I will go with Superman. Superman's speed might be better (debatable), but thats no good when Goku can use instant translocation and teleport anywere he wants, even to other planets.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 28, 2009 16:45:27 GMT -5
I think Dragonball is pretty gay, so I will go with Superman. Superman's speed might be better (debatable), but thats no good when Goku can use instant translocation and teleport anywere he wants, even to other planets. Sadly, TRW has a point. Superman, at a fast enough speed, could go back in time and prevent the birth of Goku. Goku could go back in time with one of Trunks' Time Capsules, but not nearly as fast as Superman.
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Post by PdW2kX on Jan 28, 2009 17:09:49 GMT -5
This all depends on what version of Superman we're talking about, though all of them would win simply by the nature of Superman and Goku's powers.
Superman's power is practically unlimited because he directly gets it from the sun. Any obstacle Goku places to block out the sun would be destroyed or simply worked around. And if anyone thinks that Goku could seriously blow up the sun, you're not taking this fight seriously at all.
No matter how much energy Goku has, eventually he'll burn through it. It may take days, hell, weeks of fighting, but it'll happen.
All Supes has to do is fly into the atmosphere, into the sun, or even fly to the opposite side of the world when darkness falls.
And to any who bring up Doomsday for any reason...even Doomsday didn't really kill Supes. And since then, Supes has only matured as both a fighter and as a solar-powered hero. By all logic, the amount of solar energy held in reserve in his body should be quite higher than when he fought Doomsday, simply because of the passage of time.
That's what I think would happen if normal Superman met normal Goku.
Now, if we're talking God-level "Red Son" Supes here, that fight would be over in about...three/four seconds.
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Post by The Gromble on Jan 29, 2009 18:10:29 GMT -5
Great thread loving it.
Hmmm, its a toughie but I'm gonna have to go with Goku.
Who would be the "Batman" version in the DBU?
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Post by The Sam Kinnison Corps on Jan 30, 2009 0:21:23 GMT -5
Someone looked at an old Wizard . . .
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Post by The Gromble on Jan 30, 2009 18:06:57 GMT -5
I was thinking about it, wouldn't Piccalo be the "batman" in this situation?
Iunno, bored at work and day dreaming lol
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Post by LA Times on Feb 8, 2009 21:02:13 GMT -5
This all depends on what version of Superman we're talking about, though all of them would win simply by the nature of Superman and Goku's powers. Superman's power is practically unlimited because he directly gets it from the sun. Any obstacle Goku places to block out the sun would be destroyed or simply worked around. And if anyone thinks that Goku could seriously blow up the sun, you're not taking this fight seriously at all. No matter how much energy Goku has, eventually he'll burn through it. It may take days, hell, weeks of fighting, but it'll happen. All Supes has to do is fly into the atmosphere, into the sun, or even fly to the opposite side of the world when darkness falls. And to any who bring up Doomsday for any reason...even Doomsday didn't really kill Supes. And since then, Supes has only matured as both a fighter and as a solar-powered hero. By all logic, the amount of solar energy held in reserve in his body should be quite higher than when he fought Doomsday, simply because of the passage of time. That's what I think would happen if normal Superman met normal Goku. Now, if we're talking God-level "Red Son" Supes here, that fight would be over in about...three/four seconds. Why dont we take other versions of Goku into consideration as well? If it is the scrawny white guy from the live action movie, Superman would kill him with one finger.
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Post by theforrestgriffin2 on Feb 8, 2009 22:00:29 GMT -5
I was thinking about it, wouldn't Piccalo be the "batman" in this situation? Iunno, bored at work and day dreaming lol I think the batman would be Vegeta here because hes good (well at least he turned good) but he still has an edgy side like batman does. BTW Goku would win because he could just use Instant transmission to get kryptonite and would kill superman.
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Post by The Gromble on Feb 10, 2009 21:11:57 GMT -5
^ True but they kinda both do (Piccalo and Vegeta) don't they?
I said Piccalo because he seems to be the one that trys and figure out certain situations and use it the best way he can with a fight. He also has that deep voice and edgyness to him.
Either way we both can agree the fight would be epic. But, I just see Supes flying right through a Kamehameha Blast. I see Goku needing to probably fuse with Vegeta or try something diffrent and fuse with his son? (...Can he do that?)
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