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Post by carly1988 on Feb 15, 2009 13:39:29 GMT -5
-The Internet (There is no "surprise" in wrestling anymore) -Lack of competition ( TNA is entertaining (sometimes) but isnt on the level of WWE) -Its too "soap opera" (Storylines are ok but little things like who is dating who or who is whos daddy) -Stupid storylines (Things like "Kanes Sack", "Katie Vick", "HBK being broke" is just silly. Try to keep things as "realistic" as you possibly can) HBK being broke could definitely have happened, considering many stars are borderline broke from his era. Kane's sack was a good story and was shocking to find Rey's mask in the sack. HBK being broke is unrealistic. He been on the WWE payroll since 1986, he will always have a job with the WWE making damn good money. If this was Jake Roberts or Tugboat I could see it...But not HBK |
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 15, 2009 13:42:18 GMT -5
to me, the biggest disgrace is stephanie mcmahon. the fact of the matter is that the ratings started going down once she took over the creative side of the company.
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Post by ZMaster on Feb 15, 2009 14:23:41 GMT -5
For those who say the Internet, let me ask you this. Have you ever been accountable for anything you've done in your life?
Without pure competition, it doesn't feel the same.
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 15, 2009 14:49:43 GMT -5
i'll never understand the internet arguement. the internet's been around for a damn while now, and there was a good number of smart marks in the 90's who Russo seemed to cater to with his constant swerves. the wwf kicked ass in 2000, and I was on the internet reading about how Raven was set to debut in the WWF soon and so was Steven Regal. And so did many others, and the ratings were great. The internet isn't what hurt wrestling, all the competition going out of business and not being able to capitalize on all that available talent with fresh angles is what has led to wrestling taking a turn for the worse.
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 15, 2009 21:46:03 GMT -5
The internet took out the element of surprise and the "desire" to HAVE to be home on wrestling night. When I was 15 I told my employer I would work any night but monday so I could watch wrestling. I didnt have the internet 10 years ago. Now I work just about every Monday and have for many years but I just say "Ill read about it online" so its not that big of a deal for me
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Post by Sims on Feb 16, 2009 13:06:20 GMT -5
Too cheesy(storylines)
Not enough wrestlers and too many entertainers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 13:08:39 GMT -5
because were finding out stuff we shouldnt or what??? That's exactly why. Because the storylines are leaked, and that's why people like you think the storylines suck. But yeah, the internet is a disgrace to wrestling. Before I used the internet for wrestling, I actually was entertained by every match, as I didn't critique every match. |
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Post by Mark on Feb 16, 2009 13:58:00 GMT -5
Wrestling and economics go hand in hand
Its a simple equation that many people disregard
Competition= A thriving Industry
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Post by decadofdistruction on Feb 16, 2009 19:44:17 GMT -5
because were finding out stuff we shouldnt or what??? But yeah, the internet is a disgrace to wrestling. Before I used the internet for wrestling, I actually was entertained by every match, as I didn't critique every match. the HBK bein poor did suck |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 13:14:25 GMT -5
i recently received the best of saturdays night main event and you know what i couldnt stop watching it. the wrestlers of today are nowhere near as interesting and entertaining as they were back in that time period of the mid 80"s to early 90"s. i grew up watching the awa on channel 26 here in chicago and then in the early 80"s we got the wwf and nwa along with wccw. you could literally turn on any station and see great wrestling. the storylines were a lot more beleivable and the actual wreslters made you care about them. do you think anyone would care to see the miz take on ric flair for the tilte? jbl takes on the one man gang? cm punk faces tully blanchard for the tv title? no i wouldnt cause i just dont beleive in these guys, i"m sure a lot of the younger fans live and die by some of these guys but i think theyre boring. its also extremely nonbeleivable that someone would get up after being put through a table,lit on fire thrown through a window and hit ten times with a chair but still manages to come back,hit his finishing move and get the win. even the wwf who i was not a huge fan of when i was younger put out such a superior product back then it was a pleasure to watch,jake roberts,the hart foundation,randy savage who was so good at his character in and out of the ring and so on.tripl hhh,no,shelton benjamin,no,randy orton,no,.and if i have to watch another wwe dvd where edge or some other guy comes out and tells me how he lives and breathes wrestling and this is all he ever wanted to do i"ll scream, the divas(who all suck)say the same thing. thank god i have a dvd collection from the old territiory days cause wrestling aint ever gonna get better or go back to being exciting. at least we have a lot of good memories and thats why all this retro stuff sells so well,people want to relive the glory days of wrestling not this muck that we have now. it really did die in the mid 2000"s,what a shame. sorry for the rant but it reallt sucks the way it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2009 17:06:17 GMT -5
i recently received the best of saturdays night main event and you know what i couldnt stop watching it. the wrestlers of today are nowhere near as interesting and entertaining as they were back in that time period of the mid 80"s to early 90"s. i grew up watching the awa on channel 26 here in chicago and then in the early 80"s we got the wwf and nwa along with wccw. you could literally turn on any station and see great wrestling. the storylines were a lot more beleivable and the actual wreslters made you care about them. do you think anyone would care to see the miz take on ric flair for the tilte? jbl takes on the one man gang? cm punk faces tully blanchard for the tv title? no i wouldnt cause i just dont beleive in these guys, i"m sure a lot of the younger fans live and die by some of these guys but i think theyre boring. its also extremely nonbeleivable that someone would get up after being put through a table,lit on fire thrown through a window and hit ten times with a chair but still manages to come back,hit his finishing move and get the win. even the wwf who i was not a huge fan of when i was younger put out such a superior product back then it was a pleasure to watch,jake roberts,the hart foundation,randy savage who was so good at his character in and out of the ring and so on.tripl hhh,no,shelton benjamin,no,randy orton,no,.and if i have to watch another wwe dvd where edge or some other guy comes out and tells me how he lives and breathes wrestling and this is all he ever wanted to do i"ll scream, the divas(who all suck)say the same thing. thank god i have a dvd collection from the old territiory days cause wrestling aint ever gonna get better or go back to being exciting. at least we have a lot of good memories and thats why all this retro stuff sells so well,people want to relive the glory days of wrestling not this muck that we have now. it really did die in the mid 2000"s,what a shame. sorry for the rant but it reallt sucks the way it is now. +1 for you Sir, you echo my sentiments wholeheartedly. In regards to the Internet and wrestling, is it not possible for whoever is interested in wrestling NOT to look at dirtsheets? |
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Post by 911999wohwoh on Feb 17, 2009 17:37:52 GMT -5
taking away the hardcore title
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Post by gunnerbri on Feb 17, 2009 17:49:28 GMT -5
because were finding out stuff we shouldnt or what??? Yes. I do not understand why people read spoilers in the first place anyway... defeats the point. That and because it's full of annoying little nerds who think they know it all. |
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Post by k5 on Feb 18, 2009 0:14:45 GMT -5
i don't think the internet by any means ruined wrestling. it definetly modified they way we look at it, but in the end we ruined it for ourselves...the internet did not ruin it for us.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Feb 18, 2009 5:14:21 GMT -5
Anyone who says Michaels can't be poor is crazy. Why do you all think Flair wrestled for so long?But i think the reason wrestling has gone down hill is b/c people wanna think they are part of it and say this or that is stupid instead of just sitting back and enjoying w/e they give us. I also think lack of gimmicks too. I mean yeah everyone has a little gimmick but everyone wears the same gear, long tights or shorts. Back in the day you had Warrior who wore face paint, The bushwackers wore the camo and danced around, the Big Bossman wore a guard uniform. They all fit the gimmick
Now its all simple. Look at half the Raw roster and tell me who sticks out? Don't get me wrong there are still a few Undertaker(even though he toned down a lot of his gimmick), Jeff Hardy,Cryme Tyme,Kofi Kingston. But then you have your generic guys like Kane. He was great with a mask and now he is nothing. You got Ted and Cody who are just in short tights and nothing to do with a gimmick. You have C.M. Punk yeah he is a good wrestler but what the hell is the gimmick
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 12:14:51 GMT -5
i feel that a lot of the wrestlers today,while incredible atheletes are kinda shoved down our throat to be accepted as superstars. edge,christian, the hardys,cm punk,morrison,the miz,santino marella,cody rhodes and a host of others really arent guys i would pay to see defend the strap at a pay per view. they feel "cookie cutter" to me. i"m not trying to bash these guys and i"m sure people love them but to me they just dont hold my interest in following them. also matches seem very predictable and scripted now as do most all the storylines. who needs to see stephanie mcmahon on tv or shane? i want to see wrestling with decent storylines and title hunts that seem beleivable. i feel vince and the wwe had to make it with a lot of these guys because they dont have the charisma and personality to make people feel for them. i mean i guess if you didnt know how wrestling was before you dont mind how bad it is now right. no more competition, no more territories and every angle gets posted to the net before it happens. also all these books about how wrestling is scripted with predetermined outcomes kinda ruined the magic for me. sure i always kinda figured that if you hit somone with a chair in a match the cops would probably arrest you but i never knew for sure if these two guys really hated each other,it destroyed the suspension of disbeleif for me kinda like when that masked magician exposed all those magic tricks it ruined the magic trick itself. now you know wrestling is scripted, you know these guys are all coworkers in a company selling a product, not wreslters competing to be a champion.
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Post by dmkp0wer on Feb 19, 2009 14:55:17 GMT -5
I think when WCW and partially, ECW folded, thats when wrestling got stale. There was no more competition and you could tell by the product of WWF (at that time) was getting stale. After Wrestlemania 17, when The Rock left for a few months, HHH getting injured, and the horrendous "stalker" angle of Taker's wife, and then the whole InVasion catastrophe just resulted in what we have today. Now, I'm not saying WWE is horrible (it has its moments), but with no competition, there is no need for Vince (WWE for that matter) to worry about producing the best possible product.
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