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Post by m3 on Feb 27, 2009 21:55:20 GMT -5
hulk hogan's entire career. This.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Feb 27, 2009 21:59:53 GMT -5
Bret Hart's entire career. fixed
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Post by Jimmy on Feb 27, 2009 22:01:08 GMT -5
i have no clue how edge vs. orton from vengeance 04 got such a good reputation. i watched it live and it was boring as hell, i watched a bit later and it was boring as hell, and i watched it again recently and it was still boring as hell. a long match does not automatically make it good. they spent so much time lying around in the orton chinlock.
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Post by K5 on Feb 27, 2009 23:11:18 GMT -5
Bret Hart's entire career. fixed that's a riot
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Post by HugoOne on Feb 28, 2009 0:23:36 GMT -5
i have no clue how edge vs. orton from vengeance 04 got such a good reputation. i watched it live and it was boring as hell, i watched a bit later and it was boring as hell, and i watched it again recently and it was still boring as hell. a long match does not automatically make it good. they spent so much time lying around in the orton chinlock. I haven't watched that match since it happened (you know, I actually don't think I even watched it then...) but I'm about to watch it on the IC title DVD because I a couple of reviews I read said the same thing you did. I'd say TLC IV is pretty overrated. I didn't care for that match, at all really. It was the worst of the TLC matches. How it was voted the match of the year from the Raw X anniversary blows my mind.
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Post by layton on Feb 28, 2009 10:19:24 GMT -5
i have no clue how edge vs. orton from vengeance 04 got such a good reputation. i watched it live and it was boring as hell, i watched a bit later and it was boring as hell, and i watched it again recently and it was still boring as hell. a long match does not automatically make it good. they spent so much time lying around in the orton chinlock.This sounds like most of Orton's matches.
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Post by rockbottom42385 on Feb 28, 2009 12:00:36 GMT -5
For the older matches, you have to keep them in context. Not only did fans in 1987 have a different idea of what constituted a "great match," but it's just evolution: Over the course of 20 years, new wrestlers come up with new ideas, cooler-looking moves, ideas to create drama, etc. Some of the stuff in Savage vs. Steamboat seems routine and elementary now for one very important reason: Because everyone copied it, to the point where the key spots have become overdone. The fact that anyone even bothered to copy from that match shows how awesome it was for the time. Even a move like the small package, while not totally unheard of in 1987, was considered an innovative way to trap an opponent into a surprise pinfall. Today, small packages are commonplace... and Steamboat-Savage helped make that happen by inspiring people to overdo that spot. In 1987, that was a fairly advanced technical move. In 2009, it's considered a fundamental move. Back on topic: I always thought Sabu's matches in general were overrated. It seems like his best-received matches all hinge on two key points: Did he actually connect on his high spots more than usual, and did he absorb an insane amount of punishment. To me, that's kind of fun to watch at times, but I wouldn't call it great wrestling. I agree about Sabu. Almost every single one of his matches are overrated. I liked his match with Taz at Barely Legal, but I couldn't pick out many others. It's not impressive to see a guy botching all of his moves in most of his matches.
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Post by Chicago on Feb 28, 2009 13:11:41 GMT -5
i have no clue how edge vs. orton from vengeance 04 got such a good reputation. i watched it live and it was boring as hell, i watched a bit later and it was boring as hell, and i watched it again recently and it was still boring as hell. a long match does not automatically make it good. they spent so much time lying around in the orton chinlock. I haven't watched that match since it happened (you know, I actually don't think I even watched it then...) but I'm about to watch it on the IC title DVD because I a couple of reviews I read said the same thing you did. I'd say TLC IV is pretty overrated. I didn't care for that match, at all really. It was the worst of the TLC matches. How it was voted the match of the year from the Raw X anniversary blows my mind. I think it was actually voted the best match in Raw's history, which is even more of a stretch.
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Post by K5 on Feb 28, 2009 13:17:19 GMT -5
I'd say TLC IV is pretty overrated. I didn't care for that match, at all really. It was the worst of the TLC matches. How it was voted the match of the year from the Raw X anniversary blows my mind. i think it just tells you about the marks that voted.
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Post by Dwight on Feb 28, 2009 13:54:40 GMT -5
Ramon vs Michaels at Mania isn't over rated. But their match at Summerslam is certainly under rated.
Hogan vs Andre. Though I guess you couldn't have expected to be anything technical so it truely isn't that bad of a match. The thing is no one remembers the match...they remember the finish.
I find all MITB matches and stuff like that to be over done, and over rated. Sorry. The first one was fine and maybe even the second then it got old real fast for me.
Rock vs Austin at Mania 17 and 19. Yes I know people love these but I just don't. I still think 17 had one of the most asinine finishes ever which led to one of the most annoying angles. And by Mania 19 I was sick of seeing them in the ring and it was just sloppy to me.
Angle vs Michaels at Mania. It was a decent contest..no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean that I don't think its over rated. I just personally can't say its the best match ever which I know a lot of people that can do it easily.
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Post by K5 on Feb 28, 2009 14:25:12 GMT -5
i'd agree with you on rock/austin at wrestlemania 19. it was just redundant at that point, and they should've left it at wrestlemania 17 (which i feel was done perfectly)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 15:04:36 GMT -5
i'd agree with you on rock/austin at wrestlemania 19. it was just redundant at that point, and they should've left it at wrestlemania 17 (which i feel was done perfectly) great match except for the ending.made no sense to me.and it has ruined repeat watches for me. Rock vs Austin at 19 was just plain bad I thought
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Post by Flava Dave on Feb 28, 2009 15:13:47 GMT -5
i have no clue how edge vs. orton from vengeance 04 got such a good reputation. i watched it live and it was boring as hell, i watched a bit later and it was boring as hell, and i watched it again recently and it was still boring as hell. a long match does not automatically make it good. they spent so much time lying around in the orton chinlock. This. Their match on Raw three years later is so much better it's insane.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Feb 28, 2009 15:51:54 GMT -5
Hogan vs Warrior (WM)
At the tme, i soaked it up.... now, i cant stand it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2009 7:15:12 GMT -5
Ramon vs Michaels at Mania isn't over rated. But their match at Summerslam is certainly under rated. . agreed 100%.I think SS95 was a superior effort to WMX
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Mar 1, 2009 15:17:17 GMT -5
Iron Man match from Wrestlemania 12.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2009 17:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by LeighD on Mar 2, 2009 12:28:02 GMT -5
Ric Flair vs. HBK - WM XXIV
While storyline-wise it was significant, but wrestling-wise it was medicore at best. I remember reading people's reviews on here about it and being so excited to finally see it on DVD only to be somewhat disappointed by it.
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Post by White Trash Lucha on Mar 2, 2009 12:36:06 GMT -5
Hogan Vs. Andre
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Mar 2, 2009 14:14:02 GMT -5
Iron Man match from Wrestlemania 12. True. Bret Hart's entire career. fixed Double true.
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