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Post by Edge618 on Apr 27, 2009 22:45:35 GMT -5
And how stupid and pointless was the Miz's segment tonight?? It ran WAY too long, no one cared, and he looked like a dumbass. It didn't generate any real heat for him and it bored me to death.
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Post by Bozwell634™ on Apr 27, 2009 22:45:49 GMT -5
Does it even really matter if TNA or WWE is realistic? It's entertainment. We dont need to bash TNA, or WWE. C'mon, if you dont like it don t watch :/ Here here, this is exactly right, how come everytime there has to be a TNA v WWE fight in these threads. Dont like it then dont watch.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 27, 2009 22:46:35 GMT -5
That's the problem. Unless you're under the age of 13 or have boobs - you don't matter. Instead of trying to appeal to every age out there they appeal to pieces of it. I didn't like it and I'm just stating my opinion. I'm sorry if y'all can't handle a diffrent opinion - but I'm not going to change my opinion just because you guys dis-agree. I don't care if you change your opinion or not. Difference in opinion makes for good discussion. But this whole Cena need to get off my screen mentality is incredibly ungreatful IMO. You guys get upset that he hold the title so much. He loses it. You guys complain that he's on screen too much. He disappears for months. Yet you still aren't satisfied. Then he loses the title again to who? The IWC's beloved Edge and we STILL HAVE COMPLAINTS. My argument is that some of you will never be pleased with anything. I have no problem with Cena being on my TV. I have no problem with Cena being champion besides him holding it for a year or more. I just didn't like how he came out on RAW - one day after it happended. I mean if he came out next week I would be fine with it. But a day? That's to much. I've got no problems with John Cena (actually a little bit of a fan of his for what he does for the company/business). I just didn't like that he came back in one day. I understand he's suppose to be superman and that's fine. It was just to unrealistic for my taste. But, you guys jumped on me for that. Cena could fall off the stage and come back the next night - no problem. He could go through a window and come back the next day - no problem. But, through a search light that exploded is to much for me personally. You're trying to put me in a group of people that I have no business being grouped with. I'm appy with two back to back WWE shows - the ending to RAW just irked me and hit me the wrong way. That's it - I don't hate the WWE/Cena - I just didn't like that one thing in the past 5 hours of WWE TV.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Apr 27, 2009 22:47:14 GMT -5
Besides the fact that what Sodaguy originally said about Cena has nothing to do with TNA, that should not even be brought into question here. He clearly stated something that happened tonight on a WWE program, never once mentioned anything about TNA, so TNa should be completely left out. Regardless of his personal opinions or company of choice, this conversation had nothing to do with TNA. I had every right to bring TNA up. This guy never ever says a bad thing about TNA but spares no expense at trashing WWE programing any chance he gets. My point is that as a TNA fan (which there is nothing wrong with) he has no room to call any ohter product unrealistic. Like I said, that is his personal opinion, but has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. His opinion on the WWE has nothing to do with another company in the wrestling business. I'm a fan of ROH and TNA, should that be brought into a discussion every time I have something bad to say about WWE? No, it should not, because it's completely irrelevant and provides nothing but arguments to the discussion. The man is allowed to have an opinion on the show, or something that happened on a show, regardless of how much you agree or disagree with that opinion. He's entitled to his, just as much as you are entitled to yours. By the way, way to not read a damn thing he said. He clearly stated he enjoyed Backlash, and RAW tonight, but I guess that doesn't matter, because he's a "TNA mark." Seriously, WF needs to get over the fact the kid likes TNA.
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Post by Edge618 on Apr 27, 2009 22:49:13 GMT -5
I don't care if you change your opinion or not. Difference in opinion makes for good discussion. But this whole Cena need to get off my screen mentality is incredibly ungreatful IMO. You guys get upset that he hold the title so much. He loses it. You guys complain that he's on screen too much. He disappears for months. Yet you still aren't satisfied. Then he loses the title again to who? The IWC's beloved Edge and we STILL HAVE COMPLAINTS. My argument is that some of you will never be pleased with anything. I have no problem with Cena being on my TV. I have no problem with Cena being champion besides him holding it for a year or more. I just didn't like how he came out on RAW - one day after it happended. I mean if he came out next week I would be fine with it. But a day? That's to much. I've got no problems with John Cena (actually a little bit of a fan of his for what he does for the company/business). I just didn't like that he came back in one day. I understand he's suppose to be superman and that's fine. It was just to unrealistic for my taste. But, you guys jumped on me for that. Cena could fall off the stage and come back the next night - no problem. He could go through a window and come back the next day - no problem. But, through a search light that exploded is to much for me personally. You're trying to put me in a group of people that I have no business being grouped with. I'm appy with two back to back WWE shows - the ending to RAW just irked me and hit me the wrong way. That's it - I don't hate the WWE/Cena - I just didn't like that one thing in the past 5 hours of WWE TV. If you want to watch something realistic, then wrestling isn't for you.
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Post by givesyouhell on Apr 27, 2009 22:49:40 GMT -5
And how stupid and pointless was the Miz's segment tonight?? It ran WAY too long, no one cared, and he looked like a dumbass. It didn't generate any real heat for him and it bored me to death. I LOVED IT, best part of RAW. "Your right Cena, I can't see you...cause your movies aren't in theaters long enough!"
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 27, 2009 22:52:43 GMT -5
I have no problem with Cena being on my TV. I have no problem with Cena being champion besides him holding it for a year or more. I just didn't like how he came out on RAW - one day after it happended. I mean if he came out next week I would be fine with it. But a day? That's to much. I've got no problems with John Cena (actually a little bit of a fan of his for what he does for the company/business). I just didn't like that he came back in one day. I understand he's suppose to be superman and that's fine. It was just to unrealistic for my taste. But, you guys jumped on me for that. Cena could fall off the stage and come back the next night - no problem. He could go through a window and come back the next day - no problem. But, through a search light that exploded is to much for me personally. You're trying to put me in a group of people that I have no business being grouped with. I'm appy with two back to back WWE shows - the ending to RAW just irked me and hit me the wrong way. That's it - I don't hate the WWE/Cena - I just didn't like that one thing in the past 5 hours of WWE TV. If you want to watch something realistic, then wrestling isn't for you. Okay, whatever. Just freaking drop-it. It's obvious no matter what I say about this I'm not going to get anywhere with anyone. It's like arguing with a brick wall.
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Post by Joey Cush on Apr 27, 2009 22:53:08 GMT -5
Wrestling is not supposed to be realistic, never was and never will be. Attitude Era was worse and people still foam from the mouth over it. Get over it. If you want to watch something realistic, then wrestling isn't for you. Okay, whatever. Just freaking drop-it. It's obvious no matter what I say about this I'm not going to get anywhere with anyone. It's like arguing with a brick wall. Dude, how is it "not going to get anywhere with anyone"? You said it yourself, its your opinion and your not changing it. Neither are we. I don't see where we are all are supposed to be going with you on this, as we have different opinions.
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Post by Edge618 on Apr 27, 2009 22:53:25 GMT -5
And how stupid and pointless was the Miz's segment tonight?? It ran WAY too long, no one cared, and he looked like a dumbass. It didn't generate any real heat for him and it bored me to death. I LOVED IT, best part of RAW. "Your right Cena, I can't see you...cause your movies aren't in theaters long enough!" And Miz's movies are'nt in theaters at all, because he doesn't have any.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 27, 2009 22:53:48 GMT -5
I had every right to bring TNA up. This guy never ever says a bad thing about TNA but spares no expense at trashing WWE programing any chance he gets. My point is that as a TNA fan (which there is nothing wrong with) he has no room to call any ohter product unrealistic. Like I said, that is his personal opinion, but has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. His opinion on the WWE has nothing to do with another company in the wrestling business. I'm a fan of ROH and TNA, should that be brought into a discussion every time I have something bad to say about WWE? No, it should not, because it's completely irrelevant and provides nothing but arguments to the discussion. The man is allowed to have an opinion on the show, or something that happened on a show, regardless of how much you agree or disagree with that opinion. He's entitled to his, just as much as you are entitled to yours. By the way, way to not read a damn thing he said. He clearly stated he enjoyed Backlash, and RAW tonight, but I guess that doesn't matter, because he's a "TNA mark." Seriously, WF needs to get over the fact the kid likes TNA. I read what he said. I based my post off of his history of backing TNA that way he does which there is nothing wrong with. I WAS saying that what he was saying is like calling someone's car a rust bucket when yours has no wheels. I don't care that he likes TNA. More power to him for loving the "alternative". I clearly missunderstood what he was trying to say but I mean everything I said about the other who complain about Cena.
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Post by Bray Wyatt on Apr 27, 2009 22:54:33 GMT -5
And how stupid and pointless was the Miz's segment tonight?? It ran WAY too long, no one cared, and he looked like a dumbass. It didn't generate any real heat for him and it bored me to death. But it's WWE's way of starting The Miz's Push. What Better way is there for some Cocky up and coming new Kid On The Block to get over and gain some attention. Going after Cena was smart. Now he's got some of the fans attention
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Post by Edge618 on Apr 27, 2009 22:55:17 GMT -5
If you want to watch something realistic, then wrestling isn't for you. Okay, whatever. Just freaking drop-it. It's obvious no matter what I say about this I'm not going to get anywhere with anyone. It's like arguing with a brick wall. Brickwall-1 You-0
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Post by givesyouhell on Apr 27, 2009 22:55:44 GMT -5
I LOVED IT, best part of RAW. "Your right Cena, I can't see you...cause your movies aren't in theaters long enough!" And Miz's movies are'nt in theaters at all, because he doesn't have any. Nice comeback haha (I am being serious, Cena could use that haha) BTW, is Punk in the scramble dude?
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Apr 27, 2009 22:56:04 GMT -5
whatever, it's bed time, I gotta get up at 5:30, I should have been bed a while ago. Goodnight my fellow RAW thread peeps
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Post by Joey Cush on Apr 27, 2009 22:56:21 GMT -5
Punk is not in the scramble.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 27, 2009 22:56:50 GMT -5
I don't care if you change your opinion or not. Difference in opinion makes for good discussion. But this whole Cena need to get off my screen mentality is incredibly ungreatful IMO. You guys get upset that he hold the title so much. He loses it. You guys complain that he's on screen too much. He disappears for months. Yet you still aren't satisfied. Then he loses the title again to who? The IWC's beloved Edge and we STILL HAVE COMPLAINTS. My argument is that some of you will never be pleased with anything. I have no problem with Cena being on my TV. I have no problem with Cena being champion besides him holding it for a year or more. I just didn't like how he came out on RAW - one day after it happended. I mean if he came out next week I would be fine with it. But a day? That's to much. I've got no problems with John Cena (actually a little bit of a fan of his for what he does for the company/business). I just didn't like that he came back in one day. I understand he's suppose to be superman and that's fine. It was just to unrealistic for my taste. But, you guys jumped on me for that. Cena could fall off the stage and come back the next night - no problem. He could go through a window and come back the next day - no problem. But, through a search light that exploded is to much for me personally. You're trying to put me in a group of people that I have no business being grouped with. I'm appy with two back to back WWE shows - the ending to RAW just irked me and hit me the wrong way. That's it - I don't hate the WWE/Cena - I just didn't like that one thing in the past 5 hours of WWE TV. Look, if you feel unfairly clustered in that group than I apologize. My bad. But I know you see my point about the complaints about Cena. It's clear that your problem isn't with Cena but is with the writiers. I didn't mean to insult you but I just knew WF would piss it's pants about Cena coming out. And not for the reason that you got upset either.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 27, 2009 22:57:15 GMT -5
Punk is not in the scramble. Good. I think it's better for him not to be in it to be honest.
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Post by SodaGuy on Apr 27, 2009 22:58:12 GMT -5
I have no problem with Cena being on my TV. I have no problem with Cena being champion besides him holding it for a year or more. I just didn't like how he came out on RAW - one day after it happended. I mean if he came out next week I would be fine with it. But a day? That's to much. I've got no problems with John Cena (actually a little bit of a fan of his for what he does for the company/business). I just didn't like that he came back in one day. I understand he's suppose to be superman and that's fine. It was just to unrealistic for my taste. But, you guys jumped on me for that. Cena could fall off the stage and come back the next night - no problem. He could go through a window and come back the next day - no problem. But, through a search light that exploded is to much for me personally. You're trying to put me in a group of people that I have no business being grouped with. I'm appy with two back to back WWE shows - the ending to RAW just irked me and hit me the wrong way. That's it - I don't hate the WWE/Cena - I just didn't like that one thing in the past 5 hours of WWE TV. Look, if you feel unfairly clustered in that group than I apologize. My bad. But I know you see my point about the complaints about Cena. It's clear that your problem isn't with Cena but is with the writiers. I didn't mean to insult you but I just knew WF would piss it's pants about Cena coming out. And not for the reason that you got upset either. No problem man.
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Post by Bray Wyatt on Apr 27, 2009 22:58:40 GMT -5
Punk doesn't need to be In The Scramble..He's Already Guaranteed his Title Shot For Judgment Day
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Post by Edge618 on Apr 27, 2009 22:59:38 GMT -5
And how stupid and pointless was the Miz's segment tonight?? It ran WAY too long, no one cared, and he looked like a dumbass. It didn't generate any real heat for him and it bored me to death. But it's WWE's way of starting The Miz's Push. What Better way is there for some Cocky up and coming new Kid On The Block to get over and gain some attention. Going after Cena was smart. Now he's got some of the fans attention Yeah but i didn't see it like that. Everyone knew Cena was hurt, so the second he challenged him it became boring. Then he drew it out way too long, and what was up with his "MIZ ON RAW" crap. He didn't establish himself as his own, he came out and did the same Morrison/Miz routine, and didn't show us anything about his character we didn't already know. I hope they don't actually follow through with a push for him. It feels like what it would have felt for them to push Janetty instead of Michaels.
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