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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on May 20, 2009 22:21:00 GMT -5
LKS, delighted to see the reply.
There a kajillion hand motion vids out there. Have the people here just hide there hands at the top of pics and don't even use string. It's a video 'cause it has sound, plus is made in a movie maker. Videos can be animations but making them in MovieMaker's pretty borderline. AVI's and GIF's are animations. People did have moviemaker, but people only used it to make compilations of animations.
In saying quality is better than quantity, I meant that one good animation is better than a ****ty fed video.
Feds may have more overall effort put into their moves but if you were to compare a move like say an atomic drop made in a fed video and made as a single animation, the single animation would obviously be better. The better animators like Steve-o, LKS, Rob, and Jed don't do this but most of the other guys take a lot of shortcuts. Feds aren't necessarily better than single animations. I tried to make a whole match animation back in the day, it was horrible. Shortcuts are hard to avoid. A common theme in most feds is seen having figure parts cut out of the pictures so that the hand holding them is not seen whereas in a single animation, since your not doing nearly as much work, your able to use strings and such.
The amount of time is a problem with feds because what happens when you get bored, say when your in the middle of a match? What if you feel like scrapping it? Then your between a rock and a hard place if you know what I mean.
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Post by Wuffles on May 21, 2009 0:19:18 GMT -5
I have a ton of respect for people who make animation feds. It requires a lot of patience that I simply do not, nor ever will have. That's why I just stick to single animations. It is ridiculous to argue one over the other though and I really don't see why everybody is debating it. We are all animators who work hard no matter what it is we are doing, so why are we fighting about it? I personally don't care how you make your animations. As long as I can watch them somehow then that works for me. I am always going to use Jasc Animation Shop, but that doesn't make me any better then anybody else. Just use what you are comfortable with.
Sorry for rambling on there, just felt like I would throw in my 2 cents.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on May 21, 2009 0:39:52 GMT -5
Hey Wuff, how's life?
Using Jasc doesn't make you better, it just maybe makes you look better.
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Post by bencw on May 21, 2009 2:44:37 GMT -5
LKS, delighted to see the reply. There a kajillion hand motion vids out there. Have the people here just hide there hands at the top of pics and don't even use string. It's a video 'cause it has sound, plus is made in a movie maker. Videos can be animations but making them in MovieMaker's pretty borderline. AVI's and GIF's are animations. People did have moviemaker, but people only used it to make compilations of animations. In saying quality is better than quantity, I meant that one good animation is better than a ****ty fed video. Feds may have more overall effort put into their moves but if you were to compare a move like say an atomic drop made in a fed video and made as a single animation, the single animation would obviously be better. The better animators like Steve-o, LKS, Rob, and Jed don't do this but most of the other guys take a lot of shortcuts. Feds aren't necessarily better than single animations. I tried to make a whole match animation back in the day, it was horrible. Shortcuts are hard to avoid. A common theme in most feds is seen having figure parts cut out of the pictures so that the hand holding them is not seen whereas in a single animation, since your not doing nearly as much work, your able to use strings and such. The amount of time is a problem with feds because what happens when you get bored, say when your in the middle of a match? What if you feel like scrapping it? Then your between a rock and a hard place if you know what I mean. i used to do a fed (i'm not that good at animating, i can just take alot of pics and keep the camera still) and it used to be cool at first, then after 200 pics i was bored stiff (bit like the figs) and i couldn't be bothered to go back and finish it. plus i was always looking for shortcuts. even though i stopped about 5months ago, i have made one more match which is going to go on today. not part of the now ended fed, just a match. i might make a few more, but i definetly prefer spending a shorted amount of time making a decent single animation then spending ages editing and doing a long, crappy match, even though alot of effort has been put in.
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Post by Wuffles on May 21, 2009 12:04:51 GMT -5
^ Yes,But Whys He Saying Make A Gif All The Time ? Hes So Immature Sending Me PM's,He Needs To Act His Age ! Like I said, you should do whatever you are comfortable with honestly. It's still a animation no matter if you make it a gif or not.
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Post by Sabin on May 21, 2009 15:20:10 GMT -5
This argument is pointless and getting nowhere!!!!!!! Duttanized is only giving his opinion and you don't have to do whatever he says. Its not like he is forcing you to do anything. This is stupid.... lets drop this thing.
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Post by axelwarjp on May 21, 2009 19:29:47 GMT -5
One day of school...ONE DAY and I come back to see a friendly discussion about Gif. and Movie Maker turned into a monster! *frankinstin music come one out of nowhere* Anyways I'm deleting the post, you people should know when enough is enough. Next time I may lock this thread. Just just get back on topic. New topic: ...someone think of something Side note: In america all people arguee over nothing! lol. Yea they do
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Post by DB on May 21, 2009 19:38:35 GMT -5
NEW TOPIC!!!
Anybody want a match?
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Post by hjejmnse1 on May 21, 2009 19:41:32 GMT -5
NEW TOPIC!!! Anybody want a match? Imagine oKANEo comes back and says he is out of retirement.lol,
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Post by hwa09 on May 21, 2009 19:51:38 GMT -5
Anyone Want A Match ? Stip Is Create A Springboard Splash Of Anykind
due by 27th may
anyone ?
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Post by DB on May 21, 2009 19:55:34 GMT -5
Anyone Want A Match ? Stip Is Create A Springboard Splash Of Anykind due by 27th may anyone ? I'll Face you. Good Luck!
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on May 21, 2009 20:02:25 GMT -5
NEW TOPIC!!! Anybody want a match? Imagine oKANEo comes back and says he is out of retirement.lol, Too bad he's coming back for a ppv on a forum that barely anyone posts on.
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Post by DB on May 21, 2009 20:14:40 GMT -5
Imagine oKANEo comes back and says he is out of retirement.lol, Too bad he's coming back for a ppv on a forum that barely anyone posts on. REALLY!? which forum?
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Post by extremefedration on May 21, 2009 20:16:42 GMT -5
Anyone want a match, Stip : Create a Swanton Bomb or a Springboard Moonsult. Due: May 23, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I will take THREE people, So that means we will have a Fatal four way match. Winner gets new signature and 3+ Karma! But if I win............I just win lol Good luck!
Get to animating. Btw, PM me your animation and I will send them to Loserkings007 and he will vote who won Have a nice day! =^_^=-Runs to charge batterys! ;D-
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Post by DB on May 21, 2009 20:34:11 GMT -5
Anyone want a match, Stip : Create a Swanton Bomb or a Springboard Moonsult. Due: May 23, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I will take THREE people, So that means we will have a Fatal four way match. Winner gets new signature and 3+ Karma! But if I win............I just win lol Good luck!
Get to animating. Btw, PM me your animation and I will send them to Loserkings007 and he will vote who won Have a nice day! =^_^=-Runs to charge batterys! ;D- I'll Join. Good Luck!
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Post by extremefedration on May 21, 2009 20:38:52 GMT -5
Ok Two spots left!
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Post by Sabin on May 21, 2009 21:14:29 GMT -5
i am in.
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Post by extremefedration on May 21, 2009 21:18:05 GMT -5
Ok One SPOT LEFT!!!!
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Post by CrazyCale on May 21, 2009 21:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by extremefedration on May 21, 2009 21:38:27 GMT -5
Ok Everyone has signed now, Get animating!!!
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