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Post by Double J on May 9, 2009 13:12:59 GMT -5
Don't worry, Kevin Bacon will find a way to topple John Lithgow, no worries.
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Post by k5 on May 9, 2009 13:14:28 GMT -5
he needs to realize that a prom issue is not a big thing when compared to your education. well, not true. your education is meaningless if your life sucks. It's this kids fault for putting himself into this position. probably not - chances are his parents arranged for him to be in this position and he had little to no choice.
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Post by AdamBomb on May 9, 2009 14:07:24 GMT -5
Why didn't he just not say a goddamn word, and go anyway?
What the school doesn't know, won't hurt 'em.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on May 9, 2009 14:46:40 GMT -5
Well spawn listen here. the principal of the school SIGNED A RELEASE allowing the student to go, meaning that he gave permission. This is why religion should be done away with people like this (principal) I mean, hell everyone should have a RIGHT to go to prom.
Also I know what your response will be syxx, well he didn't have to sign a contract to go to the school. I will lay $500 that the contract didn't mention outside of school, besides they can't punish him for crap done outside of school, last I checked the schools no matter how private have no jurisdiction over it.
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Post by xshawnxwilliamsx on May 9, 2009 15:47:00 GMT -5
Hooray for fascism.
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Post by bad guy™ on May 9, 2009 15:49:09 GMT -5
Don't worry, Kevin Bacon will find a way to topple John Lithgow, no worries. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this. ;D I personally think it's cruel to suspend the kid for wanting to go to a dance with his girlfriend. Religion or not...it's rather ridiculous to go to that extreme. ![:-/](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/undecided.gif)
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Post by That guy next door. on May 9, 2009 15:52:03 GMT -5
I'd seen this this morning. It's 100 percent bull ****. I don't blame religion, but rather the bungholes who run the school and take "faith" way too seriously. That's the problem. Religion can be an amazing thing. But because some people, particularly the louder and more vocal ones, sour others on it because they interpret religion in a completely asinine way. I agree with both of you, i am a christian myself and have not been told i sinned for going to my local dances.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on May 9, 2009 16:00:25 GMT -5
Well spawn listen here. the principal of the school SIGNED A RELEASE allowing the student to go, meaning that he gave permission. This is why religion should be done away with people like this (principal) I mean, hell everyone should have a RIGHT to go to prom. Also I know what your response will be syxx, well he didn't have to sign a contract to go to the school. I will lay $500 that the contract didn't mention outside of school, besides they can't punish him for **** done outside of school, last I checked the schools no matter how private have no jurisdiction over it. Yes they do. 1. NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO PROM. That's like saying everyone should have the right to marriage. It's not a given right, especially if you attend a school and sign away the right to participate in certain activities. 2. Then you would lose that $500. My sister went to a private high school called Robert Louis Stevenson High School. They did not allow the students who boarded at the school to have cars. Students who lived within 1 mile of the school also were not allowed to park private cars in their parking lot. If they did, they were faced with a pretty high fine. It is all based on the criteria of the private school. No matter where it occurs, the kid signed a contract and it has to be followed. Sure it may seem sh*tty then the kid should have not signed it or the kid should have talked to his parents more. In the end, the parents deemed the school good enough and it is their decision. He's not 18 nor is he supporting himself. K5 I will say education is above and beyond more important than a prom. I've been to three and had fun sure, but that doesn't mean I would pick going to those events over having my diploma taken away. Also since when did a child have say over their parents? So when you have a teenager and they want to go and get drunk and party on prom night, but you know the next day they have an interview with a college that could very likely give them the best education + give them the ability to actually have a good lifestyle that you would encourage them to screw that up because of a dumb prom? Seriously? I was obviously brought up with a different perspective when it comes to what is important, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna jump on the band wagon and support a teenager for going against what he signed. If he goes ahead and does the prom thing, great, but be prepared to be punished for it. Sure everyone in the world can say it's not fair blah blah. But life isn't fair and don't expect to be allowed exceptions all the time. That's the problem. Religion can be an amazing thing. But because some people, particularly the louder and more vocal ones, sour others on it because they interpret religion in a completely asinine way. I agree with both of you, i am a christian myself and have not been told i sinned for going to my local dances. Then don't be a part of their religion. How in the hell are you guys defending someone's "rights" when it was their choice to be a part of their religion and now they're complaining because it doesn't allow them to do what they want? No one forces anyone to follow a religion here in the USA. So why are we acting like this kids a victim. He can chose to leave the system if he wants. So how is this the religions fault? Dear god, you all act as if he can't just quit school, go get a GED and go work at McDonalds.
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Post by Ponch on May 9, 2009 16:05:08 GMT -5
i'd give suspension for a good time, anyday.
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Post by thematthardyjr on May 9, 2009 16:34:44 GMT -5
I hope that "fundamentalist Baptist school" burns to the ground, just for being so ridiculous.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on May 9, 2009 16:36:08 GMT -5
I hope that "fundamentalist Baptist school" burns to the ground, just for being so ridiculous. Yeah because the church itself should burn because of what the kid agreed to...
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Post by Dexter Morgan on May 9, 2009 16:52:11 GMT -5
I hope that "fundamentalist Baptist school" burns to the ground, just for being so ridiculous. Yeah because the church itself should burn because of what the kid agreed to... Religion is quite possibly the WORST thing to ever happen. Why do you think the founding fathers didn't like it? It's crap like this that proves religion needs to be taken out behind the woodshed. Also you're saying you know what this contract said? That contract your sister signed was probably different from the one this kid signed. Also I bet your a religious fellow aren't you? which is why you are sticking up for the school. One question though, WHY would the principal sign a permission slip to let the kid go only to then say hey if you do we will suspend you. Why did he just not sign it?
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Post by The Lion's Den on May 9, 2009 17:00:19 GMT -5
Yeah because the church itself should burn because of what the kid agreed to... Religion is quite possibly the WORST thing to ever happen. Why do you think the founding fathers didn't like it? It's **** like this that proves religion needs to be taken out behind the woodshed. Also you're saying you know what this contract said? That contract your sister signed was probably different from the one this kid signed. Also I bet your a religious fellow aren't you? which is why you are sticking up for the school. One question though, WHY would the principal sign a permission slip to let the kid go only to then say hey if you do we will suspend you. Why did he just not sign it? Okay I was a little offensive the first time I wrote this, so my apologies. Oh dear... Are you ignorant or is there basis for this, that religion is the source of so many problems? NO WAY. It's the people who abuse power, in any organization whether it's business, politics, what-have-you. Religion is an amazing thing, religion is a great thing and yeah it causes problems but what doesn't. Take it out the shed are you kidding me man? Do you know what good religion has done for people? I know that you're trying to say that religion is the problem, but it's all that guy who decided to make an issue of it. He could have not taken it to the board, he could have not signed the release. And heck the media could have not printed this rubbish. I am not a religious man, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you should really reconsider your hate for religion or back it up with more sufficient arguements. Sorry but, yeah...
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Post by Greg Weinstein on May 9, 2009 17:07:45 GMT -5
... Shouldn't have signed the contract.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on May 9, 2009 17:31:24 GMT -5
Religion is quite possibly the WORST thing to ever happen. Why do you think the founding fathers didn't like it? It's **** like this that proves religion needs to be taken out behind the woodshed. Also you're saying you know what this contract said? That contract your sister signed was probably different from the one this kid signed. Also I bet your a religious fellow aren't you? which is why you are sticking up for the school. One question though, WHY would the principal sign a permission slip to let the kid go only to then say hey if you do we will suspend you. Why did he just not sign it? Okay I was a little offensive the first time I wrote this, so my apologies. Oh dear... Are you ignorant or is there basis for this, that religion is the source of so many problems? NO WAY. It's the people who abuse power, in any organization whether it's business, politics, what-have-you. Religion is an amazing thing, religion is a great thing and yeah it causes problems but what doesn't. Take it out the shed are you kidding me man? Do you know what good religion has done for people? I know that you're trying to say that religion is the problem, but it's all that guy who decided to make an issue of it. He could have not taken it to the board, he could have not signed the release. And heck the media could have not printed this rubbish. I am not a religious man, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you should really reconsider your hate for religion or back it up with more sufficient arguements. Sorry but, yeah... Um religion has been causing more wars then anything for how long now? Yes people abuse power, but you think religion doesn't help them with that. I mean most of the people who abuse power and are religious claim god made them do it. Yes religion is good for giving people hope for something, but when you come down to it, without religion the world would most likely be a better place where no one hates are due to their religion.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on May 9, 2009 20:10:21 GMT -5
Okay I was a little offensive the first time I wrote this, so my apologies. Oh dear... Are you ignorant or is there basis for this, that religion is the source of so many problems? NO WAY. It's the people who abuse power, in any organization whether it's business, politics, what-have-you. Religion is an amazing thing, religion is a great thing and yeah it causes problems but what doesn't. Take it out the shed are you kidding me man? Do you know what good religion has done for people? I know that you're trying to say that religion is the problem, but it's all that guy who decided to make an issue of it. He could have not taken it to the board, he could have not signed the release. And heck the media could have not printed this rubbish. I am not a religious man, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but you should really reconsider your hate for religion or back it up with more sufficient arguements. Sorry but, yeah... Um religion has been causing more wars then anything for how long now? Yes people abuse power, but you think religion doesn't help them with that. I mean most of the people who abuse power and are religious claim god made them do it. Yes religion is good for giving people hope for something, but when you come down to it, without religion the world would most likely be a better place where no one hates are due to their religion. To some degree, i really strongly agree with you, however without religion, would it not make people question why they cant go out and murder, steal etc. I totaly disagree with organised religion, but things like comandments did set some great basic rules to make the world a fair place. But i totaly agree about the problems it causes, and think people who dont believe in a god need a higher position, as to me they seem more scientific and logical people, than those who believe some of the things a bible says word for word. ( I recently saw Religulous, awesome documentry, if anyone agrees with me i sugest looking it up) As for this, its just obsurd, but if its the rules of the school he should respect that.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on May 9, 2009 21:02:56 GMT -5
Yeah because the church itself should burn because of what the kid agreed to... Religion is quite possibly the WORST thing to ever happen. Why do you think the founding fathers didn't like it? It's **** like this that proves religion needs to be taken out behind the woodshed. Also you're saying you know what this contract said? That contract your sister signed was probably different from the one this kid signed. Also I bet your a religious fellow aren't you? which is why you are sticking up for the school. One question though, WHY would the principal sign a permission slip to let the kid go only to then say hey if you do we will suspend you. Why did he just not sign it? Ok wow... you've gone down a very long and deeply treaded road but since you did... 1. Yes, every private school has different edicts in their contracts for sure, but the point still stands that if the kid signed it, then he has to follow it or just man up and accept the consequences. I gave the example because every private school has different edicts that they expect their students to follow and they all expect the rules to be followed and will administer a punishment as is their right to do so. 2. You don't know me so I'm not gonna get on your case too hard. But no, I'm not a "deeply religious person". But I do respect people's religions as far as to say even if they are fanatical that it is their choice. We do live in America where they have the "right" to pursue those religious beliefs without being hassled by ignorance. 3. And I'm gonna say this so you can understand... THIS IS NOT A CASE OF RELIGION GETTING IN THE WAY OF ANYTHING....THE KID SIGNED A CONTRACT TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN CERTAIN ACTIVITIES.. AND IF HE DOES THE SCHOOL HAS FULL RIGHT TO FOLLOW UP BY RENDERING A SENTENCE BECAUSE HE BROKE THE RULESDo you get it now or does a 3rd grade teacher have to come and explain it to you? If the kid breaks a rule at a private/public school, the school has the right to administer the punishment. On or off campus is not the issue here because if he signed a contract stating he would not drink and then drinks off campus, that still breaks it. Do you not get that? It's like stating that because you smoke pot in the house you're not breaking the law, oh wait, yeah you still are. On a side bar note, stating that religion was the "worst" thing is a rather ignorant statement. It's not the religion that causes the people to react the way they do. It's the person themselves. If it was the religion then all the followers of the religion would do the same things. They don't. Each has personal cause and personal free will to practice the religion as they please. Um religion has been causing more wars then anything for how long now? Yes people abuse power, but you think religion doesn't help them with that. I mean most of the people who abuse power and are religious claim god made them do it. Yes religion is good for giving people hope for something, but when you come down to it, without religion the world would most likely be a better place where no one hates are due to their religion. Jesus ****ing hell, what are you 12? Do you realize that while religion has caused many wars, that so has greed. What, are you gonna stand on your soap box now and try to say that we should abolish greed? And if you even try saying that a world without greed would be better then dear god go live in China or Cuba. People DO NOT HATE BECAUSE OF RELIGION. It's their personal interpretation of their religion that causes them to hate, but it's not the religion itself. Why don't you just go join the club that wants to abolish guns from our society because it's the guns that cause people to shoot people.
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Post by k5 on May 9, 2009 21:33:18 GMT -5
So when you have a teenager and they want to go and get drunk and party on prom night, but you know the next day they have an interview with a college that could very likely give them the best education + give them the ability to actually have a good lifestyle that you would encourage them to screw that up because of a dumb prom? Seriously? i would encourage them to do as they find fit. by the time they're looking to attend prom graduating, i'd hope they'd mature enough to prioritize properly for themselves. and i think i just look at things differently than you. attending prom could mean everything to that kid, it could end up being the best night of his/her life. so yea, i'd let my kid choose for themselves because there is bigger things than education and having a good lifestlye, and it's upto everyone to decide those things for themselves.
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Post by Slay on May 9, 2009 21:36:36 GMT -5
I'd ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) her on the dance floor to Cannibal Corpse...
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Post by kayos on May 9, 2009 21:41:24 GMT -5
Most kids don't have a choice picking a religion and are brought up the same religion as their parents. Also, what about "Christian Rock"? ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing hypocrites!
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