HoganBai
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Post by HoganBai on May 31, 2009 12:51:29 GMT -5
he wasnt banned for 9/11. It was for some hawaiian hostage thing i think. And he was great. He shuld be brought back. Back in the 80's they would use that real life incident to get him over even more. It was terrorist attacks in England, ing hell some of you Yanks are intellectually- disabled. I thought the gimmick was awesome, and I found it fantastic that he was actually telling the truth, yet was still booed. Really smart gimmick, shame of the timing though
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on May 31, 2009 12:55:42 GMT -5
Hassan essentially had the total package. insane heat, good mic works, a decent character and a great look.
what bothered me was that there was no need to have him have his "terrorists" assault the Undertaker. his entire character was that he wasn't a terrorist and sick of being labled, and he had some kind of ... truth to it. then they ruined it and made him a terrorist? way to go WWE creative team.
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Post by McBlake on May 31, 2009 14:42:50 GMT -5
And whatever happened to his manager? Daivari? Didn't he go to TNA to wrestle with a terrorist gimmick? And wasn't the start of his theme tune a plane crashing?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 14:51:28 GMT -5
It was Muhammad Hassan... just sayin'.
- Triple S
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samsson
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Post by samsson on May 31, 2009 18:41:24 GMT -5
I know it can be said that it's the classic rinse and repeat gimmick, but Hasaan was... I don't know. Different. He stood out more than any other cookie cutter wrestlers who have had the foreign, "I hate America" gimmick. Because his take on the gimmick was different. Hassan never claimed to hate America, or to identify with anti-American sentiments. He was just about people who hated on him because of his culture, but he painted that as being the entire audience and WWE roster. It was never "I hate America!" it was "You hate me because I'm Muslim and you're ignorant!" I guarantee alot of the moves that did Hassan in were upper management decisions trying to take credit for his heat. Having the masked men attack Undertaker made no sense for Hassan from a character stand point, his whole thing was how Americans were ignorant not how he was a terrorist, ironically ignorance did his character in. You my friend nailed this topic right on the head...you are EXACTLY RIGHT !!!!
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Post by CBT on May 31, 2009 18:49:48 GMT -5
...and to think, I expected to see pictures of what the former Hassan now looks like. For shame, as has been said, same topic different poster.
Hassan was fun to watch and WWE pansied up. I mean, I understand how wrestling has enough bad press - why attract more with the terrorist issues, however... remember the Gulf War and the money WWE made off of heels playing off that?
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Post by Jimmy on May 31, 2009 19:05:48 GMT -5
remember the Gulf War and the money WWE made off of heels playing off that? What money? The Sgt. Slaughter heel turn was effectively a complete failure both critically and financially. They say they had to move WrestleMania to a smaller LA arena due to threats but it was really because people weren't buying tickets and they couldn't fill up the larger arena. Muhammed Hassan was the kind of character that makes people look down on wrestling, and rightfully so.
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Post by CBT on May 31, 2009 19:14:33 GMT -5
remember the Gulf War and the money WWE made off of heels playing off that? What money? The Sgt. Slaughter heel turn was effectively a complete failure both critically and financially. They say they had to move WrestleMania to a smaller LA arena due to threats but it was really because people weren't buying tickets and they couldn't fill up the larger arena. Muhammed Hassan was the kind of character that makes people look down on wrestling, and rightfully so. I know it sounds wacky but when guys like Freddie Blassie, Iron Sheik, ect.. talk about being stabbed or nearly mauled, they say it with honor. Heels who can draw such anger are not profitable in getting fans set on seeing them be beat by the fan favorites? I could understand it being poor in taste, but since when has Vince cared about the image of pro wrestling?
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Post by Edge618 on May 31, 2009 19:33:45 GMT -5
Hwy cant they just bring him back now, Taker vs Hassan rematch at Mania 26 FTW
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Post by abyss on May 31, 2009 19:41:30 GMT -5
Hassan was amazing, the gimmick was just so good. He was one of my favorites and I'd love for him to return, although it looks doubtful.
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Post by Jord on May 31, 2009 20:06:21 GMT -5
Hassan was fantastic. Wasn't UPN threatening to cancel SmackDown! if they didn't remove Hassan from the show. Couldn't they have just drafted him to RAW?
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Post by Patrick Bateman on May 31, 2009 20:35:37 GMT -5
remember the Gulf War and the money WWE made off of heels playing off that? What money? The Sgt. Slaughter heel turn was effectively a complete failure both critically and financially. On the plus side, it gave Slaughter his first real big push in YEARS, and it gave him a chance to headline with the hottest star: Hulk Hogan. Muhammed Hassan was the kind of character that makes people look down on wrestling, and rightfully so. Your opinion. Val Venis made people look down on wrestling, too. You could take your pick from numerous Attitude Era stars and make a similar statement. Controversy sells, and creates cash (to borrow from Bischoff). Give Hassan a title reign and people will pay huge money to see him lose. That man was a heat seeker.
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Post by K5 on May 31, 2009 22:10:39 GMT -5
Lame, tired gimmick and he never showed any signs of being a good wrestler. I'm not sure why he has such a strong following. He really did NOTHING to stand out, at least nothing new or innovative. No, nothing at all actually. this x100
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Post by pineappleexpress on Jun 1, 2009 2:01:20 GMT -5
This is fantastic. 2 of the best mic workers in the past decade going at it.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 1, 2009 2:19:23 GMT -5
This is fantastic. 2 of the best mic workers in the past decade going at it. That video proved exactly my problem with Hassan. He says that "Canadian deserve to be treated like second class citizens", just one of many constant country bashing promos he did. How exactly is this cutting edge again? Heels have been doing that for years, making him 'Arab' doesn't change it at all. WWE tried to play the Hassan thing off as "high concept" and "a look at racial profiling in America" or some other shit, but when you have a guy come out and say generic foreign heel things, that's exactly like every other foreign heel. Had Hassan simply come out on RAW one night with his music and head-wear, wrestled the match (I'd put him against a heel), won, and gone to the back, THAT would have been interesting. Because the fans probably would have booed him simply for looking Arabic. But WWE didn't do that, they didn't make their fans question why they were booing him. They immediately presented Hassan as someone who hates America. Laaaaaaaaaaaaame. The other thing that video reminds me of is the only thing I liked about Hassan: "ALYALALHALHALHALAYALHA!" The greatest sound to interrupt someone, ever.
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Post by K5 on Jun 1, 2009 2:33:42 GMT -5
thank you jimmy, that was summative.
if people think hassan is interesting at all, check out oldschool heels when they wrote the book upto 50 years earlier.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Jun 1, 2009 3:06:48 GMT -5
You're probably right Jimmy, but I liked him for some reason. It's kind of like my partiality to Big Daddy V. I could probably list more cons than flaws with him, but for some reason I found him entertaining as hell.
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Post by Fury on Jun 1, 2009 3:23:41 GMT -5
I always dug Hassan, mostly his character as that was a beast, but I was entertained by the guy, it's a shame the way it ended for him but I thought he was offered a move back to Raw and rejected for one reason or another.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 1, 2009 5:04:10 GMT -5
You're probably right Jimmy, but I liked him for some reason. It's kind of like my partiality to Big Daddy V. I could probably list more cons than flaws with him, but for some reason I found him entertaining as hell. It's fine, I wasn't trying to get on you specifically for Hassan. Trust me, I have more than my fair share of wrestlers with flaws that I still have a thing for.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Jun 1, 2009 6:14:06 GMT -5
I meant "more cons than pros" and not "cons and flaws" by the way. Me = fail.
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