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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 2, 2009 2:10:52 GMT -5
I've had it.First he sells for a wanna be wrestler who punches air(Shane),then has to sell for 3 minutes to a 63 year old(Vince) and now he gets his ass beat by a washed up 60 year old man?I mean getting saved by Legacy from a figure 4 leglock on a table?Yeah,that really makes Randy look strong.Ever since the punt of Vince its been all downhill for Orton.What's next?Orton getting superplexed by Linda?The ways its been I wouldn;t be surprised. Mark, much?
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Jun 2, 2009 6:22:26 GMT -5
I know! why dont we let randy orton punt everyone on the roster...we could have two hours of Randy Orton every monday
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Post by S on Jun 2, 2009 8:15:02 GMT -5
The dude is possibly the top heel in the company... so obviously this 'burying' isn't doing him any damage
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Post by marino13 on Jun 2, 2009 8:25:35 GMT -5
He is the Champ and a heel. And as you know heel Champs are ALWAYS made to look weak. That is just the way WWE is. I mean they even had Austin a weak heel champ after we just watched him whoop the whole roster for three years. Just the blueprint!!
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Post by rkokixas on Jun 2, 2009 9:58:16 GMT -5
But did any of the past heel champs have to sell for office workers and guys more than twice their age?If H was a heel would they have him run from Flair and Shane?You know they wouldn't.But it takes Orton,Ted and Cody all 3 to handle a 60 year old washed up hasbeen?And this is the top #1 heel in the business?
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Post by jfinnomore on Jun 2, 2009 10:04:19 GMT -5
But did any of the past heel champs have to sell for office workers and guys more than twice their age?If H was a heel would they have him run from Flair and Shane?You know they wouldn't.But it takes Orton,Ted and Cody all 3 to handle a 60 year old washed up hasbeen?And this is the top #1 heel in the business? gotta agree, they have flair own legacy but Jericho can handle flair, piper, snucka and the dragon all at once?
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Post by WalterF on Jun 2, 2009 23:04:59 GMT -5
They do make Orton look weak, without a doubt. I understand that he's a heel, but it's amusing that Orton needs Ted and Cody to be able to defend himself against Shane McMahon ... and even then, even w/ Legacy, Shane McMahon by himself single handidly owns Ted, Cody and Orton. Orton is one of my favorite wrestlers, but I don't think he's booked the best right now. First off, I think Legacy, as a stable, is just awful ... pointless, bland ... Cody and Ted got more TV time and legit matches just as a tag team. Orton does best as a heel by himself, being sadistic and bucking the system.
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Post by Eternal on Jun 2, 2009 23:13:06 GMT -5
Good guys strong... bad guys weak
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Post by WalterF on Jun 2, 2009 23:22:39 GMT -5
Good guys strong... bad guys weak sometimes BUT definitely not all the time. You're supposed to believe a heel stands a fighting chance of cleanly defeating the face ... that's what makes the suspense. You're supposed to root for the face, but also feel he's facing a threat ... like the heel just may be good enough to defeat him. If you make the heels too weak you don't take them seriously. Think of Hogan v. Andre. Think of 2000 when you had the HHH v. Cactus feud. rooting the face, but having a tough heel opponent that is a legit threat. Edge and Orton both suffer from the same thing, in my opinion. Kayfabe-wise, there is NO reason to believe either Orton or Edge can actually defeat ANY top face. From a kayfabe perspective, Orton and Edge are incapable of actually cleanly defeating Cena, Batista, HHH ... and the list goes on. That's really NOT a good thing because it takes the suspense away and makes it too predictable. it makes you know that either a) the face is gonna win or b) the heel is gonna cheat to win or get himself dq'd/counted out. The last clean PPV win Orton really had was at WM24 ... and that can be argued cuz it was a triple threat. To go back further, the last singles match he won cleanly was against Jeff Hardy at Rumble 08. That's kinda weak. And I cannot, for the life of me, remember the last time in a PPV main event, especially a singles match, that Edge won cleanly (i.e. without major interference or cheating). I'd be curious if someone can tell me, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2009 18:53:47 GMT -5
If we want to be literal he could lose a buried alive match
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Post by TD#1=My head hurts on Jun 3, 2009 19:25:05 GMT -5
The more they "Bury" Orton the better. Cause IMO he his very over rated loud mouth hot head jerk.
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Post by Sam Hain on Jun 3, 2009 21:11:14 GMT -5
JYSN,you say get out?You mean like Kennedy??Go stare at his wall poster you have by your bed. Dude, seriously.....
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Post by DMO™ on Jun 3, 2009 22:24:25 GMT -5
I guess if they took a shovel, dug a hole then tossed Orton into it , then proceeding to bury him with dirt.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 3, 2009 22:38:52 GMT -5
Get out... hes got the damn title. Buried my ass...
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Post by wwfalex04: OUC? on Jun 4, 2009 1:11:39 GMT -5
Get out... hes got the damn title. Buried my ass... The man's gotta point. Both of those guys had pretty awful runs as champions. Well, at least in Jericho's case his run started to get awful when Triple H won the Royal Rumble because he owned Austin and Rock on the same night. Then, he beat both men one-on-one on back-to-back pay-per-views. Granted, his Austin victory came in the form of the nWo... still.
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Post by doringnroadkill on Jun 4, 2009 2:22:23 GMT -5
I guess if they took a shovel, dug a hole then tossed Orton into it , then proceeding to bury him with dirt. I vote for this...
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Post by Blackjack on Jun 4, 2009 7:19:10 GMT -5
I was going to make a comment but decided against it but I felt like posting so yeah hi. reported
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Post by kingrey4 on Jun 4, 2009 12:17:02 GMT -5
They cant make him look like a coward because he has that I dnt give a fuk look that would just destroy everyone.
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Post by Heresy on Jun 4, 2009 13:34:57 GMT -5
Orton couldn't look any weaker... geriatrics and rich office boys... a preschooler named Sally could deliver Orton a right hand and he'd probably stumble around in slow motion like he always does until the new kids on the block aka Abercrombie and Fitch come to his aid and give her a hard time.
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Post by samsson on Jun 4, 2009 14:05:07 GMT -5
Makes ya miss the "old school heels "...funny enough one of them being Flair When they would do cowardly underhanded things all the way up to the BIG SHOWDOWN then they would get all serious and hand out a ass beating ( Flair, Race,Graham, dare I say Triple H ). If Orton did this maybe it wouldn't be so bad but what they have him doing now along with Legacy is horrible The Horseman,DX..hell even Evolution have nothing to worry about their Legacy *wink wink * being tarnished.
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