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Post by Jimmy on Jun 7, 2009 22:25:25 GMT -5
One of the most interesting things to me on WF is the polarized feelings on CM Punk. Now obviously nearly every major wrestler has his fans and his 'haters' as it were, but I honestly don't know that I've seen anyone who stirs up as much of a reaction as Punk. You have the user 'Chicago Made Punk' who seemingly would follow Punk off the edge of a cliff, and that guy 'Mizfittin MoFo' who seemingly would push Punk off a cliff if given the chance. Some people have put him with the world title in his sig, others seem to be livid at the idea of him as champion again.
It's all really weird to me. I'm just not sure what it is about him that causes these reactions. I think the guy is talented, has a cool look, and is something fresh in the main event. Obviously, many feel otherwise and they're entitled to their opinion. What I would like to know is what everyone's feelings are on him, and why.
Note: This is NOT directly about Extreme Rules, so please dun lock it k thx.
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Post by J12 on Jun 7, 2009 22:29:19 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of CM Punk. I think its great that he's been so successful in WWE and that the fans have really taken to him.
With that being said, I have a couple of issues with the way Punk has been handled lately. I don't think he ever should have won Money in the Bank this year. He didn't need it, it wasn't necessary.
Punk has been established enough as a upper card guy that he could have earned a World Title shot without having a contract for one. WWE seems to use Money in the Bank as Punk's crutch. They never let him cross that threshold to get him to the point where it makes sense for him to be champion, they just slap the belt on him when its convenient through the MITB contract.
I think putting the belt on Punk tonight was a mistake (though, its a far better decision than Jeff Hardy) - just like last year, he's done nothing in recent months to make me, or anyone else buy him as a legitimate champion. Therefore, he's destined for a mid-card title reign that will be overshadowed and eventually forgotten.
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Post by instant classic on Jun 7, 2009 22:29:46 GMT -5
Never liked him because of the fact that when he debuted in WWE all of you were saying stuff like he should go over people like HHH, Cena ect. The only reason he's done good in WWE is because of his "sXe No drugs" gimmick. Sadness.  |
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Post by T R W on Jun 7, 2009 22:30:09 GMT -5
I am completely indifferent.
I don't particularly like him, nor dislike him. He is a solid enough wrestler, but his personality and gimmick lack star power to me. It just feels like something is missing.
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Post by Phantom on Jun 7, 2009 22:31:17 GMT -5
I like him, but I didn't like this cash-in. Ive said it before and I will say it again, he should have pushed them both off the ladder and Then cashed in his MITB.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jun 7, 2009 22:32:18 GMT -5
I like him. He constantly puts on good matches and is just very over with the fans. I don't think he should be main eventing just yet though. He needs to be in a big feud with a Main Eventer, leading off to a big match at a Big PPV and THEN he should jump into the Main Event in my book.
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Post by sxexhxc on Jun 7, 2009 22:33:14 GMT -5
I don't like him... but I don't dislike him either. He is obviously a fairly good enough talent, I just think he's been pushed too much, too hard to accomplish all he has in such a short time. Now, I was okay with him cashing in on Edge, cause it was him getting a taste of his own medicine, so to speak. But him cashing in on Jeff? Seriously? I was really pumped for Jeff to win the title tonight and COMPLETELY marked out when he did and then I thought to myself "quick go off air!, Punk's gonna come out." and what happens? DUN DUNNN!, he comes out and completely ruins a great moment and a great match.
If he isn't turned heel now, then this was a POINTLESS move.
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Post by knightpryde on Jun 7, 2009 22:33:26 GMT -5
I pretty sure the Heil Hitler Mods will lock this one just like they did the other CM Punk thread.
Why was the "CM PUNK CASHES IN" thread locked. Sometimes I feel like the mods are bullies or nazi's. There is no reason for that thread to be locked and this will prob be locked too for no reason other than the Mods are going all "Heil Hitler" on us.
anywayz. I never understood the obsession with CM PUNK. I like Punk. He is world Champion material. but Im mad the WWE just screwed over Jeff Hardy for no reason.
On the west coast I have no access to Roh except though youtube. and I before he signed with WWE he had a rabid following. When he was in OVW. Fans were begging for him to come to the main Roster. Before he even debut on the WWECW. There were sign in the audience for Punk,.
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Post by Flava Dave on Jun 7, 2009 22:33:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2009 22:33:42 GMT -5
I lol'd at the descriptions of the guys.
But I thing its how quick he's been a success while WF's IWC guys were overlooked/put Punk over. Sure, he spent quite a bit of time in OVW, and was the main star of ECW back then. But I rarely noticed any bashing when he first debuted, I saw hating after he won the ECW Title off of WF man crush Morrison, that he surpassed him. Then in 2008, his best year, he gets all of these accomplishments, but most of WF's popular guys gets jobbed out (MITB Cash-In was most hated) or injured/released, while Punk gets the star treatment.
Just a matter of hating I think. My theory on it at least, I'm happy Punk gets the limelight, he can do wonders with it, but watch if Punk ends up turning heel, they'll be such a bandwagon, it'll be recockulous.
Seems like someone hated something I said earlier, someone actually put me at -8
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 7, 2009 22:33:58 GMT -5
I actually hope tonight's incident sparks a Hardy-Punk feud, with Punk as the heel. Who better to feud with the guy who already has 1 out and 2 strikes for drugs?
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Post by marino13 on Jun 7, 2009 22:35:15 GMT -5
Like him. But to each their own!
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Post by kingskm234 on Jun 7, 2009 22:36:16 GMT -5
i gave another vote for hate.
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Post by J12 on Jun 7, 2009 22:36:56 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time grasping how WWE would go about a Punk/Jeff feud, unless they were to omit the obvious entirely.
Punk would function as the heel, the straight-laced, role model for kids.
Jeff Hardy the face, the rough around the edges character with a storied drug problem in the past.
It just seems like a total twist on the kid friendly environment they're trying to create.
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Post by AdamBomb on Jun 7, 2009 22:38:27 GMT -5
I couldn't be happier right now. Aside from liking him as a wrestler, he along with Lita, and Jerry Tuite a.k.a. "The Wall" (RIP) all seem like people I could, or could have, gotten along with very easily because we're into the same music. He's the polar opposite from what a lot of people think a pro-wrestler should be because of the whole 'straight edge' thing, and while I myself don't adhere to that, I respect the out of him, and am very happy for him. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jun 7, 2009 22:42:02 GMT -5
I like Punk but he's not without his flaws. I'm a fan of his gimmick due in no small part to being sXe myself. I think he has a good look and works hard in the ring for the most part. He also has a natural charisma that comes across well on screen.
That being said, his interviews are often generic. He lacks the high note moments/quotes that really make the crowd pop. He's also been in somewhat of a rut for the last few months. His matches had been paint-by-numbers, at least until tonight. I'm hoping we see a Punk heel turn after the MITB cash-in.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Jun 7, 2009 22:42:34 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time grasping how WWE would go about a Punk/Jeff feud, unless they were to omit the obvious entirely. Punk would function as the heel, the straight-laced, role model for kids. Jeff Hardy the face, the rough around the edges character with a storied drug problem in the past. It just seems like a total twist on the kid friendly environment they're trying to create. It really wouldn't be all that different from the Matt/Jeff feud, or any feud Chris Jericho has had in the past 15 months. Matt's righteous indignation stemmed from the fact that he had the legit talent, he kept his nose clean, but everyone loved the screwup druggie brother who jumps off of tall things. Jericho, on the other hand, attempts to build up his own moral compass by poking holes in that of his opponent. Foley's Law of Heel Turns: No matter what, the heel needs to feels justified in his actions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2009 22:43:04 GMT -5
I love how he made that spotfester's 2nd reign look like crap.
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Post by kimberlysghost on Jun 7, 2009 22:43:48 GMT -5
I pretty sure the Heil Hitler Mods will lock this one just like they did the other CM Punk thread. Even though I didn't lock that thread, harsh. It's all I'm saying. Kim  |
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Post by P@ul on Jun 7, 2009 22:45:28 GMT -5
I've driven down to the States to see ROH shows where the main event involved CM Punk. To know he has gone from his early days of ROH and the Indies to WWE Champion is incredible. I'm a huge Punk fan.
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