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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jun 12, 2009 8:03:13 GMT -5
So you all thijnk this guy deserves 70 years in a sh*t American prison for this? FFS, at least let him stay here. No but to attach a bunch of excuses for what he did is just as bad. The reasons for him deserving to get off easy are stupid. Using an Autism spectrum and not knowing right from wrong at the age of 30 is an insult to people with Autism. 70 years might be extreme however he did commit a federal offense...and you said it yourself that the 70 years is probable, that doesn't mean is definite. Chances are he wouldn't even be serving that long. The American justice system works that way... Some people really don't get that 90% of all prison sentences never get full term.
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Post by T R W on Jun 12, 2009 8:03:56 GMT -5
He knew what he was doing. He knew it was wrong. He should go to jail.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Jun 12, 2009 8:05:33 GMT -5
No but to attach a bunch of excuses for what he did is just as bad. The reasons for him deserving to get off easy are stupid. Using an Autism spectrum and not knowing right from wrong at the age of 30 is an insult to people with Autism. 70 years might be extreme however he did commit a federal offense...and you said it yourself that the 70 years is probable, that doesn't mean is definite. Chances are he wouldn't even be serving that long. The American justice system works that way... Some people really don't get that 90% of all prison sentences never get full term. Yeah...well obviously he knows more about the American prison system than us
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2009 8:07:43 GMT -5
...Sounds similar to 'Mercury Rising', kinda.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2009 11:13:00 GMT -5
if he has autism then he was fully aware what he was doing. autism dosnt mean that he has the mental capasity of a 5 year old, it just means he cant understand how people are feeling in a nutshel. he hacked the us defense systems computers, well done to him but its still illegal and he needs to go to jail.
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Post by y2jsucks on Jun 12, 2009 11:32:52 GMT -5
Don't worry, Jenny Mcarthy will defend him.
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Post by carly1988 on Jun 12, 2009 16:19:24 GMT -5
Do the crime, you pay the time.......Plain and simple. And for arguments sake, no most 5yos dont know right from wrong cause 90% of parents now days are ing idiots.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jun 12, 2009 16:23:18 GMT -5
Hacking anything without permission is illegal. He needs to go to jail. As opposed to hacking something...WITH permission? Isn't the lack of permission what makes it hacking? And yes, the guy knew what he was doing. He's probably trying to claim to have mental issues to hope for an insanity plea, but it won't work.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Jun 12, 2009 17:51:06 GMT -5
Some people really don't get that 90% of all prison sentences never get full term. Yeah...well obviously he knows more about the American prison system than us lol dammit SHHH.. never admit to that
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Jun 12, 2009 20:11:57 GMT -5
Hacking anything without permission is illegal. He needs to go to jail. As opposed to hacking something...WITH permission? Isn't the lack of permission what makes it hacking? And yes, the guy knew what he was doing. He's probably trying to claim to have mental issues to hope for an insanity plea, but it won't work. Isn't it possible to like get shut out of your own system or something? Or like need to hack into something to fix it. I know jack **** about comps to I could be wrong.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Jun 13, 2009 0:51:53 GMT -5
Yeah...well obviously he knows more about the American prison system than us lol dammit SHHH.. never admit to that Law and Justice...2 and a half hours...every Tuesday night...fun times man fun times...except when this chick told me that a conversation on a forum was just as meaningful as a face to face discussion
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Post by captain master talbot on Jun 13, 2009 10:33:52 GMT -5
The only reason the guy is defending him is because, from what I understand, the man's British.
If he was Armenian, Russian, Turkish, w/e, this guy wouldn't care.
Throw him in jail.
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Post by John Zero on Jun 13, 2009 11:18:57 GMT -5
With that kind of logic,, if I don't know that murder is wrong, then I can murder someone and not go to prison?
The law is the law, regardless of your mental capabilities.
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Post by Nirvana is Happiness on Jun 13, 2009 11:37:33 GMT -5
So you all thijnk this guy deserves 70 years in a sh*t American prison for this? FFS, at least let him stay here. Why are you defending him so heavily? I mean seriously. What if the guy is lieing and is trying to hurt people instead of "looking for UFOS!". If he has this illness that you keep referring too, then he should be in a psych ward for 70 years instead of prison.
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Post by BulletV1 on Jun 13, 2009 12:07:12 GMT -5
So you all thijnk this guy deserves 70 years in a sh*t American prison for this? FFS, at least let him stay here. You do realize American prisons are like country clubs, compared to pretty much any other prison system in the world. Like others have stated most people get paroled. In some states you even get two days off your sentence for everyone day of good behavior. Also you want to defend this guy. Just be glad they aren't treating him as terrorist, or they'd throw him in a place like Gitmo, and he'd never see the light of day again. He committed a crime. The man has to be of extreme intelligence with computers if he was able to hack an US Federal computer network. The US Government has the most one of the most amazing firewall system in the world to protect it's files. So if this guy can figure that out, I'm pretty sure he could tell right from wrong. Not to mention the fact just because he said he was searching for UFO's. Doesn't mean he was. That is like saying I broke into someone's house, just because I was looking for some toilet paper. Never mind the fact that I just robbed their house. Wither or not his reasoning is true, he still put national security as risk. And he deserves to be punished for it.
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Post by Tim Tebow™ on Jun 13, 2009 12:26:50 GMT -5
I know that he has some kind of mental issue, but like AdamBomb said, if he was smart enough to hack the U.S defense system, he should be smart enough to know right from wrong. You can't possibly tell me that he didn't know that what he was doing was illegal. It would be different if maybe he had hacked something that wasn't as protected, but he hacked the U.S defense system which has one of the best firewall systems in the world. Mental issue or not, he committed a crime.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Jun 13, 2009 17:17:15 GMT -5
So you all thijnk this guy deserves 70 years in a sh*t American prison for this? FFS, at least let him stay here. You do realize American prisons are like country clubs, compared to pretty much any other prison system in the world. Like others have stated most people get paroled. In some states you even get two days off your sentence for everyone day of good behavior. Also you want to defend this guy. Just be glad they aren't treating him as terrorist, or they'd throw him in a place like Gitmo, and he'd never see the light of day again. He committed a crime. The man has to be of extreme intelligence with computers if he was able to hack an US Federal computer network. The US Government has the most one of the most amazing firewall system in the world to protect it's files. So if this guy can figure that out, I'm pretty sure he could tell right from wrong. Not to mention the fact just because he said he was searching for UFO's. Doesn't mean he was. That is like saying I broke into someone's house, just because I was looking for some toilet paper. Never mind the fact that I just robbed their house. Wither or not his reasoning is true, he still put national security as risk. And he deserves to be punished for it. Well of course he knows that our prisons are fabulous...he is after all the expert here
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Post by The Lion's Den on Jun 13, 2009 20:03:28 GMT -5
Okay, so he hacked into the database whatever it was and we get it - it's wrong. He committed a crime, however like someone mentioned before there are different degrees of autism. Where it can be more behaviour oriented or more mental and behaviour, it's a very tough thing to live with. So he did the crime, settled.
Now only a real medical, psychological assesser whathaveyou could really diagnose this man with how much he can differentiate right from wrong, real world from his own etc. So I love reading how quick we are to jump on this person's back and say throw him in prison, he committed a crime. No one even posted an article. So if he isn't all there in his head, he should be exempt from spending time in a prison and spending time in a psych ward of sorts. And then the U.S. Government should reconsider their security systems.
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Post by Mizz Lola on Jun 13, 2009 20:21:53 GMT -5
Okay, so he hacked into the database whatever it was and we get it - it's wrong. He committed a crime, however like someone mentioned before there are different degrees of autism. Where it can be more behaviour oriented or more mental and behaviour, it's a very tough thing to live with. So he did the crime, settled. Now only a real medical, psychological assesser whathaveyou could really diagnose this man with how much he can differentiate right from wrong, real world from his own etc. So I love reading how quick we are to jump on this person's back and say throw him in prison, he committed a crime. No one even posted an article. So if he isn't all there in his head, he should be exempt from spending time in a prison and spending time in a psych ward of sorts. And then the U.S. Government should reconsider their security systems. There is a good chance that he was examined. Someone with a known medical condition is examined before sentencing. They wouldn't just throw a guy in jail who was low functioning Autistic. He has to have a half decent degree of function if he is using the computer. Also, he must have verbal communications if he stood trial. Even if he is high functioning, our system seems to work where you don't serve a full sentence unless you murdered someone and even then it has to be a certain degree.
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Jun 13, 2009 20:33:29 GMT -5
Fine. He doesn't get 70 years in jail. He's autistic. He gets 70 years in a mental facility. Better?
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