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Post by LeighD on Jun 29, 2009 6:58:33 GMT -5
I remember in 1996, just after the Outsiders announced they'd have a 3rd man at Bash at the Beach, the Internet was a buzz about who it would be. Everyone was basically a guss, from Yokozuna, Bulldog, Bret (the original 3rd guy), Flair, Luger, etc The one thing I always remembered reading was the use of HBK in 1998-1999. I cannot tell you how many times he was used in a story line or made an appearance only to have the WWF edit it out because he quit or showed up hammered. It seemed like every week for those couple of years the rumors of HBK returning were high. Where there any rumors about the 3rd guy being Hogan or was that really a complete shock? There were some rumors of Hogan, but none more than others like Bret, Luger, Flair (At least on the sites and chats I was a part of). I know for me, Hogan turning heel as a HUGE shock to me. From what I understand, Bret Hart was supposed to have been the 3rd guy, but changed his mind and eventually re-signed with the WWF. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jun 29, 2009 11:34:51 GMT -5
I heard the third man was going to be Sting, but then they decided on Hulk Hogan. Nothing to do with Bret Hart.
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Post by LeighD on Jun 29, 2009 12:18:59 GMT -5
I heard the third man was going to be Sting, but then they decided on Hulk Hogan. Nothing to do with Bret Hart. Well, I will not say whether that is true or false as I'm sure at one point or another in 1996 false info was given out in order stir things up. But I believe it was in Bischoff's book he confirms Bret Hart was intended to be the 3rd man but contract negoiations fell through and I'm pretty sure Hogan was the 2nd person in mind for the 3rd man spot. But I also believe Sting, Luger, and Flair were all highly considered for the spot. Remember the idea of the nWo was to make it seem like guys from the WWF were invading WCW. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jun 29, 2009 12:22:21 GMT -5
I heard the third man was going to be Sting, but then they decided on Hulk Hogan. Nothing to do with Bret Hart. Well, I will not say whether that is true or false as I'm sure at one point or another in 1996 false info was given out in order stir things up. But I believe it was in Bischoff's book he confirms Bret Hart was intended to be the 3rd man but contract negoiations fell through and I'm pretty sure Hogan was the 2nd person in mind for the 3rd man spot. But I also believe Sting, Luger, and Flair were all highly considered for the spot. Remember the idea of the nWo was to make it seem like guys from the WWF were invading WCW. Ahh, that's interesting. I've not read Bischoff's book. In Hogan's book, he talks about Sting being the front-runner for the role of "the third man", but says nothing about Hart. |
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Post by Raine on Jun 29, 2009 13:13:09 GMT -5
I read that Bret was the original 3rd man but as explained negotiations fell through. So Hogan was then asked to do it, but if he refused, Sting was gonna be Plan C.
I also read Hogan was offered a WWF contract in 1997 and a main event spot at WM13 but refusedand stayed with WCW.
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Post by joker123 on Jun 29, 2009 15:18:48 GMT -5
I remember hearing these:
Shawn Michaels joining WCW
Shawn Michaels returning in the title tourney at Survivor Series 1998
Kevin Nash & Scott Hall jumping back to WWF in 1998
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Post by LeighD on Jun 30, 2009 10:40:35 GMT -5
Well, I will not say whether that is true or false as I'm sure at one point or another in 1996 false info was given out in order stir things up. But I believe it was in Bischoff's book he confirms Bret Hart was intended to be the 3rd man but contract negoiations fell through and I'm pretty sure Hogan was the 2nd person in mind for the 3rd man spot. But I also believe Sting, Luger, and Flair were all highly considered for the spot. Remember the idea of the nWo was to make it seem like guys from the WWF were invading WCW. Ahh, that's interesting. I've not read Bischoff's book. In Hogan's book, he talks about Sting being the front-runner for the role of "the third man", but says nothing about Hart. The book is a decent read, but how much of it is true I cannot say. But I'm pretty sure it was Eric's book that he talks about Bret. I know he had talked with Hogan once Bret felt through. Sting as plan C I've never heard of, but doesn't mean its not true. |
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Post by Sam Hain on Jun 30, 2009 11:02:45 GMT -5
It's actually been confirmed by reliable sources (Hall, Nash, Hogan, Sting, etc.) that Sting was the original plan for the 3rd man. That was why he started to grow his hair out and stopped dying it, they had been planning a heel turn for some time. But, last minute (literally days before Bash at The Beach) Hogan decided he wanted to do it instead and Sting was bumped. To my knowledge, Hart was talked about but was never a lock for the 3rd man. He was still under WWF contract at the time, since his contract expired in the fall and he was doing overseas tours. Bret himself confirmed that in his book.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jun 30, 2009 15:40:28 GMT -5
It's actually been confirmed by reliable sources (Hall, Nash, Hogan, Sting, etc.) that Sting was the original plan for the 3rd man. That was why he started to grow his hair out and stopped dying it, they had been planning a heel turn for some time. But, last minute (literally days before Bash at The Beach) Hogan decided he wanted to do it instead and Sting was bumped. To my knowledge, Hart was talked about but was never a lock for the 3rd man. He was still under WWF contract at the time, since his contract expired in the fall and he was doing overseas tours. Bret himself confirmed that in his book. Figured, thanks for the confirmation though. Bret Hart as the leader of the nWo would've been wishful thinking. I think the role worked better for Hulk Hogan anyways, who got the chance to re-define himself as a heel. Ahh, that's interesting. I've not read Bischoff's book. In Hogan's book, he talks about Sting being the front-runner for the role of "the third man", but says nothing about Hart. The book is a decent read, but how much of it is true I cannot say. But I'm pretty sure it was Eric's book that he talks about Bret. I know he had talked with Hogan once Bret felt through. Sting as plan C I've never heard of, but doesn't mean its not true. I still need to take a look at Bischoff's book. You're right about Hogan's book though, maybe it should've been filed under the Fiction section, or labeled "based on a true story". |
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Post by TheRockers on Jul 6, 2009 9:12:05 GMT -5
I remember reading in Shawn Michaels book he was very unhappy in WWF around mid 1997. I think it was the time he was tag team champions with Stone Cold. He actually told Vince he wanted out of his contract and wanted to go to WCW.
that was a rumor that was true.
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