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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 17:03:34 GMT -5
I would much rather have MJD/Julius Jones as my starting RBs with Berrian over Addai, Smith and Holmes. Santonio is only a slight upgrade on Berrian. It's a matter of opinion, I guess... If you didn't notice, he was trying to get rid of Jones-Drew. He's obviously not confident that Jones-Drew will continue to be an 'elite' running back. His usual starting lineup was: RB - Maurice Jones-Drew RB - Julius Jones RB - Laurence Maroney WR - Bernard Berrian WR - Pierre Garcon (or Kenny Britt) Now his lineup is: RB - Kevin Smith RB - Joseph Addai RB - Julius Jones WR - Santonio Holmes WR - Pierre Garcon (or Kenny Britt) It's easy to sit and say "I'd rather have Jones-Drew and Julius Jones" when you're not in his situation. Julius Jones has had two absolutely awful games in a row. Laurence Maroney hasn't cracked 35 yards rushing yet this year -- his highest point total is 3. Right now these two players are starting for him. I know that Maurice Jones-Drew helps make up for that on the weeks like week 3 when he goes buck-wild for 120+ yards and 3 TD's... But Jones-Drew has scored less than 10 points THREE TIMES this season already. Compare that to Kevin Smith (averaging 12 points per game) and Joseph Addai (averaging 11 points per game); and you might understand why he'd consider the trade. Not to mention, despite Santonio Holmes being a letdown the past couple weeks, he's averaging 7.5 points per game to Berrian's 5 points per game. It's practically impossible to win in fantasy football when you have one "stud" and a bunch of duds. Sure that stud might single-handily win you a few games, but on the weeks when he doesn't explode; then what? It's pretty much an automatic loss. Good pieces are in the trade, but is it seriously worth giving up your first round pick over? Come on now. Like I said, I like what the addition of Jones-Drew does to my team; because I still feel like I have a LITTLE BIT of depth. But I don't blame him for wanting to trade Jones-Drew to get TWO guys he could possibly start at RB and an upgrade at WR.
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Post by T R W on Oct 15, 2009 17:13:27 GMT -5
Hey, I'm not mad. I think it's hilarious.
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Post by One Love on Oct 15, 2009 17:19:56 GMT -5
Thanks Kliquid. Now instead of one 15 point per game guy and a bunch of 3-5 point per game guys I got a couple of 8-10 point guys.
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Post by One Love on Oct 15, 2009 17:23:30 GMT -5
I would much rather have MJD/Julius Jones as my starting RBs with Berrian over Addai, Smith and Holmes. Santonio is only a slight upgrade on Berrian. It's a matter of opinion, I guess... If you didn't notice, he was trying to get rid of Jones-Drew. He's obviously not confident that Jones-Drew will continue to be an 'elite' running back. His usual starting lineup was: RB - Maurice Jones-Drew RB - Julius Jones RB - Laurence Maroney WR - Bernard Berrian WR - Pierre Garcon (or Kenny Britt) Now his lineup is: RB - Kevin Smith RB - Joseph Addai RB - Julius Jones WR - Santonio Holmes WR - Pierre Garcon (or Kenny Britt) It's easy to sit and say "I'd rather have Jones-Drew and Julius Jones" when you're not in his situation. Julius Jones has had two absolutely awful games in a row. Laurence Maroney hasn't cracked 35 yards rushing yet this year -- his highest point total is 3. Right now these two players are starting for him. I know that Maurice Jones-Drew helps make up for that on the weeks like week 3 when he goes buck-wild for 120+ yards and 3 TD's... But Jones-Drew has scored less than 10 points THREE TIMES this season already. Compare that to Kevin Smith (averaging 12 points per game) and Joseph Addai (averaging 11 points per game); and you might understand why he'd consider the trade. Not to mention, despite Santonio Holmes being a letdown the past couple weeks, he's averaging 7.5 points per game to Berrian's 5 points per game. It's practically impossible to win in fantasy football when you have one "stud" and a bunch of duds. Sure that stud might single-handily win you a few games, but on the weeks when he doesn't explode; then what? It's pretty much an automatic loss. Good pieces are in the trade, but is it seriously worth giving up your first round pick over? Come on now. Like I said, I like what the addition of Jones-Drew does to my team; because I still feel like I have a LITTLE BIT of depth. But I don't blame him for wanting to trade Jones-Drew to get TWO guys he could possibly start at RB and an upgrade at WR. It wasn't really a matter of me not being confident, thought that was a small part of it, but I needed depth, you gave it to me. Like I said, I like what the addition of Jones-Drew does to my team; because I still feel like I have a LITTLE BIT of depth. But I don't blame him for wanting to trade Jones-Drew to get TWO guys he could possibly start at RB and an upgrade at WR.
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Post by One Love on Oct 15, 2009 18:44:00 GMT -5
Alright, who protested the ing trade?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 15, 2009 21:04:20 GMT -5
Alright, who protested the ing trade? If I knew how.....I would certainly protest.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 21:09:52 GMT -5
Alright, who protested the ing trade? If I knew how.....I would certainly protest. I guess you completely disregard reason and just "protest" everything that you, personally, wouldn't do.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 15, 2009 21:19:55 GMT -5
Ok so....I'm getting VERY aggrevated with this whole thing. I'm just putting it to a vote and that's that. Check your inboxes in a moment...
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 15, 2009 21:31:19 GMT -5
If I knew how.....I would certainly protest. I guess you completely disregard reason and just "protest" everything that you, personally, wouldn't do. Just drop it man. Good God! Why does everyone have to agree with you?
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 21:44:53 GMT -5
CM Showstopper is officially the biggest crybaby bitch on this board. He actually has the audacity to claim that I am cheating in a free fantasy football league. This guy was actively pursuing trading Jones-Drew to someone else. That trade didn't go through, he said he wanted Kevin Smith & Joseph Addai; and I threw in Holmes for Berrian. I guess it took us 16 PM's to figure out a way for me to screw everyone in the league? No, what really happened is that no one else offered him a legitimate trade for Jones-Drew. He decided to go with the best option, which was my offer. The guys I'm trading away have scored a combined 151 points through the first five weeks of the season. The guys I'm trading for have scored 94. Yeah, how completely unfair.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 21:45:53 GMT -5
I guess you completely disregard reason and just "protest" everything that you, personally, wouldn't do. Just drop it man. Good God! Why does everyone have to agree with you? It's not a matter of you agreeing with me. It's a matter of you accusing me of cheating. And you're a ing idiot for doing so.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 21:57:57 GMT -5
You dropped LaDainian Tomlinson?...
I know he hasn't been highly productive, but come on -- he's not droppable.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 22:05:49 GMT -5
You dropped LaDainian Tomlinson?... I know he hasn't been highly productive, but come on -- he's not droppable. what good is he doing on my bench? he hasnt done anything in a good while so i figured i would get mccoy for him hey it was either drop sproles who has been doing something or drop lt who has done absolutley nothing Tomlinson has been injured. When he gets back to full health, he will be their starting RB again.
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Post by T R W on Oct 15, 2009 22:15:44 GMT -5
I don't think it was cheating at all. Cheating would be having two teams, or something like that. Taking advantage of someone in a trade isn't cheating at all, in fact, I am all for it. If that owner isn't smart enough to make a savvy trade, then so that's his fault. I just wish I had thought of it first.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 15, 2009 22:19:40 GMT -5
CM Showstopper is officially the biggest crybaby bitch on this board. He actually has the audacity to claim that I am cheating in a free fantasy football league. This guy was actively pursuing trading Jones-Drew to someone else. That trade didn't go through, he said he wanted Kevin Smith & Joseph Addai; and I threw in Holmes for Berrian. I guess it took us 16 PM's to figure out a way for me to screw everyone in the league? No, what really happened is that no one else offered him a legitimate trade for Jones-Drew. He decided to go with the best option, which was my offer. The guys I'm trading away have scored a combined 151 points through the first five weeks of the season. The guys I'm trading for have scored 94. Yeah, how completely unfair. This is ing hilarious! I'm not the one who protested the ing trade. Get off the high ing horse. I never accused you of cheating. I only said that in the IM to irritate you, since your first IM to me was "You ING CRYBABY." Then on top of it, Horror is IMing me and telling me that I pissed everyone off and I need to fix it. WTF?! I did nothing cuz I cant even figure out how to protest the damn trade. Just b/c I said I didnt like it......it was ASSUMED I was the one protesting it. Kliquid....colluding is cheating. I very much doubt you are colluding with this guy. However, the league should have some sort of voting policy on trades. That stops people from colluding and stops one sided trades as well. Take it up with the commish. He aint doing anything anyway. In no way shape or form, should I have been harrassed via IM by you over this. I should be able to say something to the commish and u should too without us having to hash it out. Why? B/c I cant stop the ing trade. I have no power. I also cant approve the trade. I dont have that power. So why are we even discussing it?! Its absurd. BTW....anyone want my entire team for 1 injured player? Now thats how a baby throws a crapfit!
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 15, 2009 22:20:24 GMT -5
I don't think it was cheating at all. Cheating would be having two teams, or something like that. Taking advantage of someone in a trade isn't cheating at all, in fact, I am all for it. If that owner isn't smart enough to make a savvy trade, then so that's his fault. I just wish I had thought of it first. But you clearly see it the same way I do.....its one sided. B/c Horror is trying to convince me how fair the trade is.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 15, 2009 22:46:55 GMT -5
I don't think it was cheating at all. Cheating would be having two teams, or something like that. Taking advantage of someone in a trade isn't cheating at all, in fact, I am all for it. If that owner isn't smart enough to make a savvy trade, then so that's his fault. I just wish I had thought of it first. But you clearly see it the same way I do.....its one sided. B/c Horror is trying to convince me how fair the trade is. OBVIOUSLY I think the trade benefits me the most, or I wouldn't do it. That said, it's not a ridiculous enough trade that I should have people saying that I'm "colluding" (which is completely f'n ridiculous). It's not like he's trading Jones-Drew for Seneca Wallace or something. I'm giving him DECENT players, at least. The fact is that I'm not cheating, colluding, or anything of the sort. And I'm calling you a baby because that's the first thing you assume -- is that someone is trying to rip you off in a free fantasy football league. You offered the same guy Julius Jones and Devery Henderson for -- through five weeks -- the top-scoring fantasy receiver in the league. Did anyone say you were cheating? No. Grow the up.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Oct 15, 2009 23:01:31 GMT -5
Man I wish I joined this league! What fun it would have been! I am definitley in next year!
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Post by Ace Bennett on Oct 16, 2009 17:35:21 GMT -5
Okay guys, I think I may have accidentally been the one who protested the trade. My mouse is very screwy and sometimes clicks on some things I don't mean to. I am not at all against the trade so we can drop it now. Plus I think Horror is taking care of it in a very fair way.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 16, 2009 19:07:14 GMT -5
But you clearly see it the same way I do.....its one sided. B/c Horror is trying to convince me how fair the trade is. OBVIOUSLY I think the trade benefits me the most, or I wouldn't do it. That said, it's not a ridiculous enough trade that I should have people saying that I'm "colluding" (which is completely f'n ridiculous). It's not like he's trading Jones-Drew for Seneca Wallace or something. I'm giving him DECENT players, at least. The fact is that I'm not cheating, colluding, or anything of the sort. And I'm calling you a baby because that's the first thing you assume -- is that someone is trying to rip you off in a free fantasy football league. You offered the same guy Julius Jones and Devery Henderson for -- through five weeks -- the top-scoring fantasy receiver in the league. Did anyone say you were cheating? No. Grow the up. Steve Smith has had a very below average year so far. Please.
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