Bob Sapp
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Post by Bob Sapp on Jul 20, 2009 1:50:21 GMT -5
Yeah, that one guy was.
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Post by P@ul on Jul 20, 2009 3:44:13 GMT -5
It was a pathetic showing by TNA. Period.
I would love to sit in on a management meeting after that and listens to their notes regarding the show. I think I would have an aneurysm. Argh!
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 20, 2009 4:48:46 GMT -5
I got too agree TNA can never do wrong by SG's standards. He bashes people who say it sucked then says they are bashing him saying his opinion is wrong. SG in the wwe board always bashes wwe no matter what they do. He starts fights and always acts like the victim. He's the damian demento of wf. QFT.. Anyway, the PPV was awful - I feel sorry for anybody who actually paid money to watch that show..
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Post by mnm213 on Jul 20, 2009 5:08:27 GMT -5
SodaGuy went to this PPV right? Maybe it was better in real life, but yeah... I think I'll stay away from this Pay Per View on television by the sounds of things... I trust you, you got this. I'm pissed off Victoria lost.
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Post by Chris Hammers on Jul 20, 2009 5:51:22 GMT -5
I thought the wrestling aspect of the show was fine, which it normally is with TNA but the booking was all over the place. Putting the title back on Angelina Love made no sense, even with the foot on the bottom rope finish that screams rematch. Mafia taking all the titles is lame, sure it'll make for a nice picture but that's about it.
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Post by deskjet on Jul 20, 2009 8:18:16 GMT -5
What was solid about it? the wrestling or the predictable storylines? or the anticlimatic taz debut? '' You want me to explain it? Fine. Here we go. Angelina vs. Tara: Good knockouts match with a good ending that left room for a rematch in the future and then followed up later that night with Madison (and/or Velvet) willing to do anything for Angelina. Daniels vs. Morgan: A great match here that showed the talents off of both men and got Morgan more over to a point. You had Morgan showing (in storyline) that he could go with the "best of them" like Daniels and saw him getting heat on him by going after the injured leg of Daniels. Abyss vs. Stevie: A solid story telling match that kinda brought back the old Abyss and mixed it with the new Abyss. It also had the continuity of Abyss hitting the shock treatment (Stevie's shock treatment that West goes on and on about) and the tazer. 3D/Brits: Decent little tag match here that could've done without the table being brought into play but it's their trademark so what can ya do and if you don't do it the fans won't STFU chanting "WE WANT TABLES". Williams & Magnus got a good bit of offense in on 3D and Magnus was actually impressive in the match imo. Jenna/Sharmell: Dud. Nash/Styles: Nice little match here where Styles was able to pull a good match out of Nash like some of us figured he would (and like he's done in the past) and had some good back and forth action. They told a good story aswell when Nash left with West/Tenay putting over how Nash could barley walk that put it over as a "fluke win" more so than anything. A little predictable but at the same time they worked the match to a point where I personally thought Styles would win at alot of spots (including after the Pele) Steiner/Booker T vs. BMI: Another solid tag team match but was killed by the finish as Storm was right be the referee and Earls timing seemed after. Again, it kinda had that "fluke" feel to it like if Earl wasn't busy with Storm/Booker it would've been over and Steiner/Book got lucky in the match. Sting/Joe: Not as good as their BFG match but still a nice little match but could've been good on so many levels. Taz debut was a little anti-climatic but the fans in the IZ didn't seem to care as they popped good for him and it again told a story and it got Joe fired back up and for once Sting actually freaking jobbed. Foley/Angle: Eh, it was okay. Nothing to great but nothing abs. horrible at the same time. I think it would've been better had Angle not been hurt and Foley been in a little better shape because then Angle could've carried him to an even better match. It's kinda like with AJ/Nash they worked the match so well that at some points I thought it was over and Angle had lost the belt mainly due to his injury. Overall a very solid show. Slammiversary, Sacrifice & Lockdown were all better to me but it was still a very solid show. There, I explained everything for you guys. I think if you'd do that more you'd get less heat. You dont have to explain yourself but say what you liked didnt like instead of a blanket statement..."a solid ppv" basically says you liked everything. And the ppv was good wrestling wise, but it's the poor storyline that killed it, and always does in TNA. If I didnt see MEM walking out with the titles a mile away, I woulda liked it more. But dont expect people to not say anything about your opinion when you are constantly making statements about theirs either cuz u do bash people that say it sucks then whine about people gettin on you. spearjack- People arent just comin on here all the time to rip into tna. i seen quite a few people that enjoyed slammiversary last month, on here with mostly positive things to say. I think people are sick of watching tna take a very appealing steak, turn it into a turd, then try to fix the turd up to make it look and taste like a steak again...wtf? lol
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Post by S on Jul 20, 2009 9:10:30 GMT -5
Wow... from the reviews it sounds like Abyss vs Stevie was the best thing there... I may watch it when its on in the UK, but from the pictures, i'm happy abyss isn't in white anymore
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Post by notsandwich on Jul 20, 2009 9:28:09 GMT -5
How anyone can defend TNA is beyond me. I actually think that the creative team have mental illness.
It is beyond me.
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MR._SOCKO
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Jul 20, 2009 10:12:59 GMT -5
How anyone can defend TNA is beyond me. I actually think that the creative team have mental illness. It is beyond me. I completely agree. I recently said that the TNA House Show I went to was just not fun in any sort of way and people took it very personal defending their beloved TNA. I went to a friend's house to watch this PPV. I thought I would give it a shot because I haven't seen a TNA PPV in years. I thought a company called Total Non-Stop Action would feature a ppv with a lot of action. I was wrong. TNA Knockouts Championship: Angelina Love w/The Beautiful People v. Tara© w/PoisonThis was match of the night in my opinion. It's a good thing that Victoria left the E because she it looks like she actually gets to wrestle in TNA. Not a good booking move to take the strap off of her so quickly. Grudge Match: Matt Morgan v. DanielsThis match didn't really do anything for me. I like Daniels and Morgan has a lot of potential but he's very bland. No Disqualification: Dr. Stevie v. AbyssThe whole Dr. Stevie gimmick is ridiculous (Music: Paging Dr. Stevie...ugh!) Abyss seems lost in the shuffle at this point which is disappointing. He should be one of the main players in TNA. IWGP Tag Title Match: The British Invasion (Brutus Magnus & Doug Williams w/Rob Terry) v. Team 3-DI like the British Invasion but Brutus Magnus really sucks. They need to replace him asap. Bring in Dave Taylor please. Special Challenge Match: Sharmell w/Sojourner Bolt v. Jenna Morasca w/Awesome Kong This match was very offensive to me as a wrestler and as a fan. Both of these women are CLEARLY not wrestlers and know nothing about it. It was an insult to spend PPV time with those two and waste Kong in her role. TNA Legend’s Championship: Kevin Nash v. AJ StylesA decent match, AJ can have a great match with pretty much anyone. I hated the finish. Nash should not have gone over. TNA World Tag Team Champions: Scott Steiner & Booker T v. Beer MoneyI don't mind the team of Steiner and Booker. Beer Money has really grown on me. They've improved a ton since the last time I saw them. Special Challenge Match: Samoa Joe v. StingAnother slow match that didn't really do anything for me. Tazz shows up and doesn't do much. TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Mick Foley v. Kurt AngleFoley looks like he's in better shape. Angle looks badass with the hair and beard. Angle's singlet looked horrible though. He needs to burn that. The match was kind of slow. Mick Foley should never be tapping out to lose matches. In Conclusion* The PPV was horrible. It felt like 6 hours instead of 3, everything just dragged on and on and on. * They really need to move out of the Impact Zone for PPVs. It just feels so bush league because it's old and there are not that many people there. Plus it looks like it's always the same people that are there. * What happened to the X Division? That was the one thing TNA had going for them for a couple of years. * A lof the matches sucked and were really slow. I think this is because about half of the roster are older WWE guys that can't wrestle the style the younger guys can. * So is Tazz in the Main Event Mafia? He was wearing a suit. * TNA doesn't stand out in any sort of way now. They just seem like a watered-down version of the Attitude Era WWE. They even stole their "wrestlers standing in the rain" for promo videos, haha. * TNA needs to stop focusing so much on guys like Nash, Foley, Booker, Steiner, etc. These are guys whose great matches are behind them and who are recognized by regular only with WCW, WWE, or ECW. Not TNA. * TNA should be focusing more on AJ, Joe, Abyss, Beer Money, MCMG, Daniels, etc. These are all guys that are young, can have great matches, but more importantly are stictly TNA stars.
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shenmue
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Post by shenmue on Jul 20, 2009 11:23:11 GMT -5
Maybe im being harsh but i honestly think its the worst PPV since December to Dismember, maybe even worse than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 11:27:55 GMT -5
SG, I warned you about constantly jumping at the chance to stick up for everything... I notice you do the same thing we do in the WWE board. Personally, i'm tired of it. If I had my way ( which I don't ), with the way you CONSTANTLY are throwing your little quips and whitty comments in, followed by "i'm jokin' with ya."... i'd have you banned from this board. It gets so annoying to read 8-10 people claim how bad an event is, yet I know somewhere in that thread ( normally within the first 2 posts ) will be you claiming it was "solid". Also, I noticed just about EVERY post someone made in this thread last night... it was followed by your opinion on it. I think you very well might have posted more in this thread than everyone else combined did. Now don't go explaining yourself after reading this, just maybe take the comments down a notch. You need to put your 2 cents in on every comment made on this board ( not literally ). I've gotten so tired of dealing with this crap, i've thought about dropping down as mod... just because I wouldn't have to deal with it anymore. But I enjoy running this board a little too much, to do that. Anyways... onto the show: I'll be honest, just by reading reactions to this Pay-Per-View, it was as predictable as I expected it would be. MEM are the new nWo, which is terrible. Taz's debut was anything short of terrible. However, i'm more angered by watching that YouTube video and seeing Joe completely no sell the Scorpion Deathlock after Sting released... terrible. Booker T and Scott Steiner... two guys that should be released. Nah, lets put them over our top tag team instead. Sounds to be like Daniels/Morgan ( surprisingly ) and Abyss/Dr. Stevie are the only things worth watching from this Pay-Per-View. Definitely not worth $30 to see 2 matches. ... very glad I went and saw the Half Blood Prince for the second time instead. - Triple S
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Post by DTP. on Jul 20, 2009 11:40:28 GMT -5
Maybe im being harsh but i honestly think its the worst PPV since December to Dismember, maybe even worse than that. That's a little too far... Okay, Victory Road isn't really too big of a pay-per-view, so I think the booking was acceptable, it creates further allusions, sure some things didn't deliver, but there's no such thing as perfect in booking. It was your average event, I actually enjoyed it more than WWE No Way Out, to be honest.
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Joe CR
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Post by Joe CR on Jul 20, 2009 11:55:26 GMT -5
Really poor ppv, best part was Jenna's pin.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Jul 20, 2009 11:56:51 GMT -5
Really poor ppv, best part was Jenna's pin. Did it top the epic Maryse pin from Raw?
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jul 20, 2009 12:18:47 GMT -5
I remember when TNA fans/marks SWORE that the Main Event Mafia angle would be used to get new talent over.
Yeah, new talent like Kevin Nash. Told you guys the only way they'd lose is by imploding from the inside.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 12:32:14 GMT -5
Told you guys the only way they'd lose is by imploding from the inside. Hey, that can still happen... right? - Triple S
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 20, 2009 12:36:15 GMT -5
Yeah if they accidently cost each other the belts
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Post by SodaGuy on Jul 20, 2009 12:49:57 GMT -5
'' You want me to explain it? Fine. Here we go. Angelina vs. Tara: Good knockouts match with a good ending that left room for a rematch in the future and then followed up later that night with Madison (and/or Velvet) willing to do anything for Angelina. Daniels vs. Morgan: A great match here that showed the talents off of both men and got Morgan more over to a point. You had Morgan showing (in storyline) that he could go with the "best of them" like Daniels and saw him getting heat on him by going after the injured leg of Daniels. Abyss vs. Stevie: A solid story telling match that kinda brought back the old Abyss and mixed it with the new Abyss. It also had the continuity of Abyss hitting the shock treatment (Stevie's shock treatment that West goes on and on about) and the tazer. 3D/Brits: Decent little tag match here that could've done without the table being brought into play but it's their trademark so what can ya do and if you don't do it the fans won't STFU chanting "WE WANT TABLES". Williams & Magnus got a good bit of offense in on 3D and Magnus was actually impressive in the match imo. Jenna/Sharmell: Dud. Nash/Styles: Nice little match here where Styles was able to pull a good match out of Nash like some of us figured he would (and like he's done in the past) and had some good back and forth action. They told a good story aswell when Nash left with West/Tenay putting over how Nash could barley walk that put it over as a "fluke win" more so than anything. A little predictable but at the same time they worked the match to a point where I personally thought Styles would win at alot of spots (including after the Pele) Steiner/Booker T vs. BMI: Another solid tag team match but was killed by the finish as Storm was right be the referee and Earls timing seemed after. Again, it kinda had that "fluke" feel to it like if Earl wasn't busy with Storm/Booker it would've been over and Steiner/Book got lucky in the match. Sting/Joe: Not as good as their BFG match but still a nice little match but could've been good on so many levels. Taz debut was a little anti-climatic but the fans in the IZ didn't seem to care as they popped good for him and it again told a story and it got Joe fired back up and for once Sting actually freaking jobbed. Foley/Angle: Eh, it was okay. Nothing to great but nothing abs. horrible at the same time. I think it would've been better had Angle not been hurt and Foley been in a little better shape because then Angle could've carried him to an even better match. It's kinda like with AJ/Nash they worked the match so well that at some points I thought it was over and Angle had lost the belt mainly due to his injury. Overall a very solid show. Slammiversary, Sacrifice & Lockdown were all better to me but it was still a very solid show. There, I explained everything for you guys. I think if you'd do that more you'd get less heat. You dont have to explain yourself but say what you liked didnt like instead of a blanket statement..."a solid ppv" basically says you liked everything. And the ppv was good wrestling wise, but it's the poor storyline that killed it, and always does in TNA. If I didnt see MEM walking out with the titles a mile away, I woulda liked it more. But dont expect people to not say anything about your opinion when you are constantly making statements about theirs either cuz u do bash people that say it sucks then whine about people gettin on you. I don't see how it said I liked everything when I clearly said I didn't like Jenna/Sharmell. I was even complaining about it when the match was going on. I never said the PPV was great or awesome, I said it was a very solid show and got my money's worth which at the end of the day is what matters to me personally. If I buy a $29.95 PPV and don't get my money's worth then I'll complain but I felt I got my money's worth as the matches were good (with the expection of Jenna/Sharmell). Was it predictable? Yes. But, in Kevin Nash/AJ Styles & BMI/Booker T & Steiner they worked the match so good in my eyes that sitting at home I thought Styles & BMI had a chance of winning. Again, never claimed the PPV was great like some of you act like I did. "Very solid PPV" does not equal "Greatest thing ever". I was entertained, got my money's worth and was happy when the show was over.
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Post by LtD73 on Jul 20, 2009 13:02:15 GMT -5
Youre entertained by every TNA show though
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Post by Chris Hammers on Jul 20, 2009 13:03:22 GMT -5
That's personal opinion over anything else though. You're entertained by Angelina Love and I personally think she's the spawn of satin.
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