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Post by ortonisgod on Aug 24, 2009 0:28:12 GMT -5
Would someone be so kind as to tell me where Jeff do his big spot from? a ladder, onto punk who was laying on the announce table.
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 24, 2009 0:29:20 GMT -5
Not to be an ass but im starting to think this guy ironically is under the influence. No, just very tired. What it comes down to is I respect Hardy a lot more then Orton. That does not mean I give a poop about Hardy at all though. Let me ask you this Joey, why do you respect Hardy so much? I respect him just like everybody else does. I respect him for his entertainment. He has done things people would never do. Hundreds of daredevil stunts he's performed and never been injured. His passion to succeed. I respect him for his determination. I respect Jeff Hardy, but I like him for a lot of other reasons.
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 0:34:27 GMT -5
No, just very tired. What it comes down to is I respect Hardy a lot more then Orton. That does not mean I give a poop about Hardy at all though. Let me ask you this Joey, why do you respect Hardy so much? I respect him just like everybody else does. I respect him for his entertainment. He has done things people would never do. Hundreds of daredevil stunts he's performed and never been injured. His passion to succeed. I respect him for his determination. I respect Jeff Hardy, but I like him for a lot of other reasons. He is pretty banged up from all those stunts though, I read some where he has disc's in his neck that are all ed up. There are far more entertaining people then Jeff Hardy, The Rock being one of them. His passion to succeed and determination I have a problem with. Just because as times his personal demons took over his life, and ran it at times. But now that I think about it, him stepping away might not be a good idea. No matter how bad I want him to go away. Has it crossed your mind that he can relapse while he is taking his time off at all?
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 24, 2009 0:36:50 GMT -5
Jeff didn't do drugs for fun, he did it because he needed them. Taking time away from wrestling would be only for the best.
And your saying since theres more entertaining people (one you chose to say, isn't in WWE) I cannot respect Jeff?
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Post by Dan88 on Aug 24, 2009 0:44:19 GMT -5
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 0:44:58 GMT -5
Jeff didn't do drugs for fun, he did it because he needed them. Taking time away from wrestling would be only for the best. And your saying since theres more entertaining people (one you chose to say, isn't in WWE) I cannot respect Jeff? You can respect him all you want. Iam just saying there are more entertaining people... Thats all Taking time away might be a double edged sword.. boredum is the first step on the road to relapse, I hope not in his case though. Drugs are bad. Lets not put on a front though, these guys put their body's through hell...we has fans do not really give a crapif they kill them selfs. We have no personal connection with any of them other then a cable connection
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Post by ortonisgod on Aug 24, 2009 0:46:22 GMT -5
I respect him just like everybody else does. I respect him for his entertainment. He has done things people would never do. Hundreds of daredevil stunts he's performed and never been injured. His passion to succeed. I respect him for his determination. I respect Jeff Hardy, but I like him for a lot of other reasons. He is pretty banged up from all those stunts though, I read some where he has disc's in his neck that are all ed up. There are far more entertaining people then Jeff Hardy, The Rock being one of them. His passion to succeed and determination I have a problem with. Just because as times his personal demons took over his life, and ran it at times. But now that I think about it, him stepping away might not be a good idea. No matter how bad I want him to go away. Has it crossed your mind that he can relapse while he is taking his time off at all? I highly doubt at any point jeff was a true junkie atleast not on any rec drugs like heroin etc. but lets just say he was- by your logic no matter how talented somebody is if their a junkie they don't deserve respect?
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 0:52:29 GMT -5
He is pretty banged up from all those stunts though, I read some where he has disc's in his neck that are all ed up. There are far more entertaining people then Jeff Hardy, The Rock being one of them. His passion to succeed and determination I have a problem with. Just because as times his personal demons took over his life, and ran it at times. But now that I think about it, him stepping away might not be a good idea. No matter how bad I want him to go away. Has it crossed your mind that he can relapse while he is taking his time off at all? I highly doubt at any point jeff was a true junkie atleast not on any rec drugs like heroin etc. but lets just say he was- by your logic no matter how talented somebody is if their a junkie they don't deserve respect? I think they deserve respect IF they get clean. However, how many junkies actually get help and get clean now a days. I really do not know if he was a " true junkie" You only know what you read and hear I guess right? Just because WWE made light of his ups does not mean crapI suppose. What I mean by that is...he got caught twice? What if that was the only two times he ever did it at all? It's all conflicting for me really. I would not want my son looking up to Jeff Hardy though. Not so much because it's Hardy. I think it has something to do with me saying my prayers eating my viatmans when I was a kid and finding out my hero was a ing fraud piece of shit. So, with that said at the end of the day... I do not think its a personal issue
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 24, 2009 0:54:31 GMT -5
Dude, Jeff IS clean. How do I know? Because he hasn't failed another drug test. And if thats not good enough for you. I've read countless of reports saying people in the back were waiting to make Jeff a prime example, to prove that they wont take any bullcrap. They were waiting for him to screw up again, so they could fire him.
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Post by ortonisgod on Aug 24, 2009 0:57:08 GMT -5
I highly doubt at any point jeff was a true junkie atleast not on any rec drugs like heroin etc. but lets just say he was- by your logic no matter how talented somebody is if their a junkie they don't deserve respect? I think they deserve respect IF they get clean. However, how many junkies actually get help and get clean now a days. I really do not know if he was a " true junkie" You only know what you read and hear I guess right? Just because WWE made light of his ups does not mean poop I suppose. What I mean by that is...he got caught twice? What if that was the only two times he ever did it at all? It's all conflicting for me really. I would not want my son looking up to Jeff Hardy though. Not so much because it's Hardy. I think it has something to do with me saying my prayers eating my viatmans when I was a kid and finding out my hero was a ing fraud piece of poop. So, with that said at the end of the day... I do not think its a personal issue Ok i get it, but why are drugs such a big deal here? i prefer to enjoy and appreciate the talent then worry about the people i look up doing drugs. Kurt Cobain was a user but that doesen't phase me at all. same goes for Eddie and Davey Boy Smith, its none of my bussiness what vices they had. your looking into it wayyyyy too much, just enjoy the talent and stop worrying about whats in whos system.
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 1:00:19 GMT -5
Dude, Jeff IS clean. How do I know? Because he hasn't failed another drug test. And if thats not good enough for you. I've read countless of reports saying people in the back were waiting to make Jeff a prime example, to prove that they wont take any bullcrap. They were waiting for him to screw up again, so they could fire him. I am not doubting he was clean after the last up...here is why. You think this mega push was just based alone on Hardy being over? no, they were waiting for him to screw up again. I am sure of that, but what better way to send a message by building him up and him ing up then firing him? There is no better message problem being, it back fired and Jeff managed to either A stay clean or B beat a drug test..iam going with option A What I am saying is, I hope his time away does not blow up in his face because boredum really is the first step in the road to relapse
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 1:02:44 GMT -5
I think they deserve respect IF they get clean. However, how many junkies actually get help and get clean now a days. I really do not know if he was a " true junkie" You only know what you read and hear I guess right? Just because WWE made light of his ups does not mean poop I suppose. What I mean by that is...he got caught twice? What if that was the only two times he ever did it at all? It's all conflicting for me really. I would not want my son looking up to Jeff Hardy though. Not so much because it's Hardy. I think it has something to do with me saying my prayers eating my viatmans when I was a kid and finding out my hero was a ing fraud piece of poop. So, with that said at the end of the day... I do not think its a personal issue Ok i get it, but why are drugs such a big deal here? i prefer to enjoy and appreciate the talent then worry about the people i look up doing drugs. Kurt Cobain was a user but that doesen't phase me at all. same goes for Eddie and Davey Boy Smith, its none of my bussiness what vices they had. your looking into it wayyyyy too much, just enjoy the talent and stop worrying about whats in whos system. I can't help it though man. It's a shame when these people die later from their vices. Thats what really gets me the most. Cobain was an addict because he married the wrong woman BTW lol . Seriously though, it's sad when these larger then life "hero's" we have fall and become another statistic...do you understand what I am saying?
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 24, 2009 1:03:27 GMT -5
Dude, Jeff IS clean. How do I know? Because he hasn't failed another drug test. And if thats not good enough for you. I've read countless of reports saying people in the back were waiting to make Jeff a prime example, to prove that they wont take any bullcrap. They were waiting for him to screw up again, so they could fire him. I am not doubting he was clean after the last up...here is why. You think this mega push was just based alone on Hardy being over? no, they were waiting for him to screw up again. I am sure of that, but what better way to send a message by building him up and him ing up then firing him? There is no better message problem being, it back fired and Jeff managed to either A stay clean or B beat a drug test..iam going with option A What I am saying is, I hope his time away does not blow up in his face because boredum really is the first step in the road to relapseToo much Clerks 2 huh? Jeff has a LOT of other interests. Music, art, motocross. He wont be getting bored.
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 1:07:07 GMT -5
I am not doubting he was clean after the last up...here is why. You think this mega push was just based alone on Hardy being over? no, they were waiting for him to screw up again. I am sure of that, but what better way to send a message by building him up and him ing up then firing him? There is no better message problem being, it back fired and Jeff managed to either A stay clean or B beat a drug test..iam going with option A What I am saying is, I hope his time away does not blow up in his face because boredum really is the first step in the road to relapseToo much Clerks 2 huh? Jeff has a LOT of other interests. Music, art, motocross. He wont be getting bored. LOL Clerks 2 was awesome. Well, he is doing a tour with his band I heard. I hope his members care enough about him to lead him on the right track. I think with his disc problems he needs to stay the hell away from motocross. As for art, its art... so yea
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Post by ortonisgod on Aug 24, 2009 1:07:33 GMT -5
Ok i get it, but why are drugs such a big deal here? i prefer to enjoy and appreciate the talent then worry about the people i look up doing drugs. Kurt Cobain was a user but that doesen't phase me at all. same goes for Eddie and Davey Boy Smith, its none of my bussiness what vices they had. your looking into it wayyyyy too much, just enjoy the talent and stop worrying about whats in whos system. I can't help it though man. It's a shame when these people die later from their vices. Thats what really gets me the most. Cobain was an addict because he married the wrong woman BTW lol . Seriously though, it's sad when these larger then life "hero's" we have fall and become another statistic...do you understand what I am saying? I do get what your saying and i respect your opinon. This is way off topic but Kurt was using in the late 80s before he even knew who courtney was, he actually admitted to falling for her because she too had a love for pills etc. I too hate watching people burnout but i don't know why your so obssesed with it, we as fans don't need or even deserve to know what these people do in their personal lives.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 1:07:58 GMT -5
Tonigts SummerSlam has surpassed any PPV this year, and that includes the Rumble (Which up to this point was my favorite) despite the fact that I didnt like the winners to some of the matches... Mysterio/Ziggler - Another great match between to two of them. I wouldve rather have Ziggler win the belt here, he definately deserves it. I hated Ziggler when he first showed up but he has grown on me alot. MVP/Swagger - Pretty good match, I didnt care who won because they are both good. Jericho/Show and CrymeTyme - Good Tag Team match, happy about the winners and I do love JeriShows new theme song! Kane/Khali - Wasnt great by any means but it was ALOT better then their match at WrestleMania 23. Glad to see Kane won too DX/Legacy - Wanted Legacy to win but DX did put them over huge in this match and I love it. Loved HBK getting the pin. This WAS putting them over for all the Triple H lovers who claims he put over everyone and makes them look good. This match is a prime-example of putting people over, and I think Shawn did a huge part of this. Hopefully Legacy beats them at BreakingPoint if they face. Regal/Christian - Very short, setting up for a better match at BreakingPoint I hope. Wasnt too bad Orton/Cena - I f**king LOVED this match! The twists and turns, all the false finishes, The countout, The DQ, The Lilian botch, The fan, it was PERFECT. I would love to see them face again. Orton and Cena put on a great match Punk/Hardy - Of course I didnt want Punk to win but it was a great match, Hardys still an idiot for leaving but whatever, hopefully he'll be back soon. Undertakers return was PERFECT, and I cant wait to see him face and hopefully beat Punk next month 9.5/10 out of 10.
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Post by downsyndrome on Aug 24, 2009 1:12:42 GMT -5
I can't help it though man. It's a shame when these people die later from their vices. Thats what really gets me the most. Cobain was an addict because he married the wrong woman BTW lol . Seriously though, it's sad when these larger then life "hero's" we have fall and become another statistic...do you understand what I am saying? I do get what your saying and i respect your opinon. This is way off topic but Kurt was using in the late 80s before he even knew who courtney was, he actually admitted to falling for her because she too had a love for pills etc. I too hate watching people burnout but i don't know why your so obssesed with it, we as fans don't need or even deserve to know what these people do in their personal lives. I respect yours as well, I am sorry for coming off dickish to you and Joey earlier as well, That was not cool on my part so I am sorry. The Kurt and Courtney marriage is one I will never understand, ever see the unsolved mysterys where they allude to her some how killing or setting him up to be killed? I would not say iam obssesed, I just hate to see people kill them selfs over substance abuse you feel me?
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Aug 24, 2009 1:13:47 GMT -5
The return of undertaker aye, now thats cool.
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 24, 2009 1:16:20 GMT -5
KIDM, your sig is ing awesome.
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Post by ortonisgod on Aug 24, 2009 1:16:51 GMT -5
I do get what your saying and i respect your opinon. This is way off topic but Kurt was using in the late 80s before he even knew who courtney was, he actually admitted to falling for her because she too had a love for pills etc. I too hate watching people burnout but i don't know why your so obssesed with it, we as fans don't need or even deserve to know what these people do in their personal lives. I respect yours as well, I am sorry for coming off dickish to you and Joey earlier as well, That was not cool on my part so I am sorry. The Kurt and Courtney marriage is one I will never understand, ever see the unsolved mysterys where they allude to her some how killing or setting him up to be killed?I would not say iam obssesed, I just hate to see people kill them selfs over substance abuse you feel me? yes i have and although it was very interesting, i think it was what is was him leaving on free will. courtney may be crazy but i dont think she would murder. To get back on topic though orton/cena really had one of the best finishes ive seen in awhile! Orton is very entertaining in his title defenses.
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