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Post by Tim Tebow™ on Sept 3, 2009 21:44:16 GMT -5
Packers. Don't get me wrong, I think they will be pretty good, but I don't believe they can win the division, and the wild card will be between Falcons/Panthers/Giants/Eagles. I respectfully disagree with your inclusion of the Eagles in Wild Card talks. There's no reason we can't win the division. Giants won't. They lost Derrick Ward [their best option at 3rd down back], Amani Toomer, nd Plaxico Burress. David Tyree may not make final cuts from what I've heard. So that really takes away Eli's biggest downfield threats. Sure Steve Smith is good, but he can't do it by himself. Now, I've not seen any of the Giants' draft picks in action, so I don't know what they can do, but the inevitable "rookie speculation" is that they won't be able to fill the shoes that Toomer nd Burress did, nd possibly what Tyree did, should he not make the cut. The Eagles on the other hand, got Maclin in the draft, nd while he;s amde mistakes this preseason, I'm hoping he's worked them all out, same goes for LeSean McCoy. We've got DeSean Jackson, who has just been on fire in camp nd in the preseason games, plus Kevin Curtis has been impressive coming off 2 sports hernia surgeries. Round that out with "3rd nd Avant" nd Hank Baskett, who can play damn good ball at times, nd we've got our receiving corps in tact. Did I forget to mention the wild card named Michael Vick? He did really well tonight against the Jets. Sure we lost the game nd went 1-3 for the preseason, but we did go 1-3 before in the preseason. 2004. Super Bowl That's why I put the Giants AND the Eagles. Whoever doesn't win the division between those two teams will contend for the wild card.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 3, 2009 21:45:20 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree with your inclusion of the Eagles in Wild Card talks. There's no reason we can't win the division. Giants won't. They lost Derrick Ward [their best option at 3rd down back], Amani Toomer, nd Plaxico Burress. David Tyree may not make final cuts from what I've heard. So that really takes away Eli's biggest downfield threats. Sure Steve Smith is good, but he can't do it by himself. Now, I've not seen any of the Giants' draft picks in action, so I don't know what they can do, but the inevitable "rookie speculation" is that they won't be able to fill the shoes that Toomer nd Burress did, nd possibly what Tyree did, should he not make the cut. The Eagles on the other hand, got Maclin in the draft, nd while he;s amde mistakes this preseason, I'm hoping he's worked them all out, same goes for LeSean McCoy. We've got DeSean Jackson, who has just been on fire in camp nd in the preseason games, plus Kevin Curtis has been impressive coming off 2 sports hernia surgeries. Round that out with "3rd nd Avant" nd Hank Baskett, who can play damn good ball at times, nd we've got our receiving corps in tact. Did I forget to mention the wild card named Michael Vick? He did really well tonight against the Jets. Sure we lost the game nd went 1-3 for the preseason, but we did go 1-3 before in the preseason. 2004. Super Bowl That's why I put the Giants AND the Eagles. Whoever doesn't win the division between those two teams will contend for the wild card. Gotcha! Sorry I misunderstood what you meant...
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Post by captain master talbot on Sept 3, 2009 22:07:31 GMT -5
The NFC East never has a given winner. Remember how Dallas was supposed to own the division last year and go to the Super Bowl?
Ahmad Bradshaw is a better runningback than Ward. And best of all, he's younger. Tyree didn't play at all last year, so why include him? Mario Manningham could have a breakout season this year. Smith is a beast in the slot. I guess people always forget about Kevin Boss too. He's a stud receiving TE.
Hakeem Nicks has looked excellent in preseason. He could be starting halfway through the season, possibly earlier. Again, Tyree really did nothing except for make a lucky catch against his helmet.
So I guess it's alright to count out the Giants rookies, but the Eagles rookies are all going to be amazing this season.
Sure, Desean Jackson is going to be a stud, and Kevin Curtis is solid, but is that really enough for the Eagles offense? Their o-line isn't clicking, can't run block, Westbrook is always injured, and isn't getting younger. McNabb is getting more inconsistent. The Eagles offense is either going to be explosive, or nonexistant.
I didn't realize 7/11 for 26 yards and 1 INT was really well. Sure he did good rushing, but that's not automatically going to be the Eagles saving grace this season.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 3, 2009 22:11:51 GMT -5
So I guess it's alright to count out the Giants rookies, but the Eagles rookies are all going to be amazing this season. One thing to that. I did mention that I haven't seen the Giants' rookies in action. I have seen our rookies, nd they have impressed me with what I saw. For only his 2nd game action since Dec. 31, 2006, nd first with more than just 6 plays, I'd say he did pretty well.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 3, 2009 23:13:04 GMT -5
Dont Forget Danny Amendola. He had a great camp and is having a really strong preseason. He has, you are right. I could see him making it somehow. Maybe not as one of the 6 receivers, but somehow. No way he makes the opening day roster. The Eagles have like 8 WRs they will have to choose from. You know Curtis, Macklin, Jackson and Avant are in. There is 4 right there. Not to mention Brown and Baskett are borderline. Amendola will be a practice squad player, who might see a call up if there were injuries. Eagles have to make a 53 man roster and they probably still have 70-80 guys there.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 3, 2009 23:16:48 GMT -5
He has, you are right. I could see him making it somehow. Maybe not as one of the 6 receivers, but somehow. No way he makes the opening day roster. The Eagles have like 8 WRs they will have to choose from. You know Curtis, Macklin, Jackson and Avant are in. There is 4 right there. Not to mention Brown and Baskett are borderline. Amendola will be a practice squad player, who might see a call up if there were injuries. Eagles have to make a 53 man roster and they probably still have 70-80 guys there. Yeah. The 4 you [and I] mentioned are locks for certain. As I mentioned, I see Baskett making it, nd them probably dealing Brown. They were going to try nd use Brown nd Lito Sheppard [before they let him go] to get Fitzgerald last year before he restructured with Arizona. So I still see them possibly dealing Brown, nd Gibson making the cut. Oh, nd it's 75 max. They had to cut to 75 sometime last week[end].
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Post by Word™ on Sept 3, 2009 23:17:37 GMT -5
So finally.. The Bengals sign Andre Smith and that fat lazy bastard fractures his foot the FIRST DAY OF PRACTICE..
What a tool..
I heard that his contract is stated to cut millions from him if he weighs over 350 pounds at anytime with the team.. Sweet..
Anyways..
Michael Crabtree is the last 1st rounder not signed..
And tbh.. Not only with Crabtree (whom is a diva btw), but so many of the first rounders were holding out due to the WR drafted by Oakland.. Heyward-Bay was paid so much everyone freaked and wanted his type of cash..
Does anyone think Crabtree will ever sign?
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 3, 2009 23:19:01 GMT -5
So finally.. The Bengals sign Andre Smith and that fat lazy bastard fractures his foot the FIRST DAY OF PRACTICE.. What a tool.. I heard that his contract is stated to cut millions from him if he weighs over 350 pounds at anytime with the team.. Sweet.. Anyways.. Michael Crabtree is the last 1st rounder not signed.. And tbh.. Not only with Crabtree (whom is a diva btw), but so many of the first rounders were holding out due to the WR drafted by Oakland.. Heyward-Bay was paid so much everyone freaked and wanted his type of cash.. Does anyone think Crabtree will ever sign? I don't see him signing. I heard he was considering not signing, nd going up for the draft again next year, but if he does, his stock will drop so far, he'll wish he signed this year for the money offered.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 3, 2009 23:21:54 GMT -5
So finally.. The Bengals sign Andre Smith and that fat lazy bastard fractures his foot the FIRST DAY OF PRACTICE.. What a tool.. I heard that his contract is stated to cut millions from him if he weighs over 350 pounds at anytime with the team.. Sweet.. Anyways.. Michael Crabtree is the last 1st rounder not signed.. And tbh.. Not only with Crabtree (whom is a diva btw), but so many of the first rounders were holding out due to the WR drafted by Oakland.. Heyward-Bay was paid so much everyone freaked and wanted his type of cash.. Does anyone think Crabtree will ever sign? He will sign. Not sure when. Perhaps even holding out longer than Jamarcus Russell. But the guy would have to be the biggest idiot. B/c no matter how much less he gets than Heyward Bey....he will get peanuts compared to that if he re-enters the draft. Anyone remember Raghib Ishmail? The Rocket turned into a major bust after his holdout and trek to Canada.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 3, 2009 23:25:28 GMT -5
So finally.. The Bengals sign Andre Smith and that fat lazy bastard fractures his foot the FIRST DAY OF PRACTICE.. What a tool.. I heard that his contract is stated to cut millions from him if he weighs over 350 pounds at anytime with the team.. Sweet.. Anyways.. Michael Crabtree is the last 1st rounder not signed.. And tbh.. Not only with Crabtree (whom is a diva btw), but so many of the first rounders were holding out due to the WR drafted by Oakland.. Heyward-Bay was paid so much everyone freaked and wanted his type of cash.. Does anyone think Crabtree will ever sign? He will sign. Not sure when. Perhaps even holding out longer than Jamarcus Russell. But the guy would have to be the biggest idiot. B/c no matter how much less he gets than Heyward Bey....he will get peanuts compared to that if he re-enters the draft. Anyone remember Raghib Ishmail? The Rocket turned into a major bust after his holdout and trek to Canada. I personally think there should be a rule against rookie holdouts. Who is to say that they are worth the money they want? first overall pick or not. What if they turn out to be a major bust? The team will have wasted all that money on them, nd for what? Nothing. I think if a rookie turns down the offer that a team is willing to make for them, they should be forced into free agency. Then see who picks them up, when other teams find out how whiny they get for more money. Bet these self centered college boys won't bitch if they do make that a rule. Hey, I can dream, right?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 3, 2009 23:43:07 GMT -5
He will sign. Not sure when. Perhaps even holding out longer than Jamarcus Russell. But the guy would have to be the biggest idiot. B/c no matter how much less he gets than Heyward Bey....he will get peanuts compared to that if he re-enters the draft. Anyone remember Raghib Ishmail? The Rocket turned into a major bust after his holdout and trek to Canada. I personally think there should be a rule against rookie holdouts. Who is to say that they are worth the money they want? first overall pick or not. What if they turn out to be a major bust? The team will have wasted all that money on them, nd for what? Nothing. I think if a rookie turns down the offer that a team is willing to make for them, they should be forced into free agency. Then see who picks them up, when other teams find out how whiny they get for more money. Bet these self centered college boys won't bitch if they do make that a rule. Hey, I can dream, right?No doubt. Totally agree. However, I doubt it will happen in our lifetime.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 4, 2009 1:54:26 GMT -5
So here are the Top 10 "Must Happen" trades, from The Czar.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I made the correction in A.J. Feeley's area because Michael Vick is reinstated nd eligible to play on September 27th when the Kansas City Chiefs come to town.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 4, 2009 4:26:25 GMT -5
Jaguars | Jones-Drew's status for Week 1 in questionGene Frenette, of The Florida Times-Union, reports Jacksonville Jaguars RB Maurice Jones-Drew (leg) will undergo an MRI exam Friday, Sept. 4. When asked if Jones-Drew would practice Wednesday, Sept. 9, head coach Jack Del Rio said: "We'll keep our fingers crossed." Del Rio was later asked if he thought there would be any reason Jones-Drew would not be fully ready for Week 1. "I don't anticipate any at this time, no," replied Del Rio. What does it mean?Though it seems unlikely that Jones-Drew would miss the team’s opener due to what is currently being diagnosed as a bruised leg, this is something to pay close attention to. One of the biggest questions surrounding Jones-Drew going into his first regular season without Fred Taylor next to him is his durability, and this injury only supports that theory. Jones-Drew was the first overall pick in a lot of leagues, so many fantasy owners are really relying on him to produce the monster fantasy season that he seems to be capable of. We will keep an eye on this injury and update everyone as often as possible, but Jones-Drew owners should be looking into the possibility that they will need to find someone to replace him in their starting lineups in week one.
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Sept 4, 2009 4:26:34 GMT -5
Please, Ozzie, keep Marshall away from M&T Bank Stadium. We don't need that baby crying around and punting balls during Ravens' practice. Although, if he did, guys like Ray Lewis would happily take him down a peg.
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Sept 4, 2009 5:38:25 GMT -5
Holy , the Raiders still find new ways to make me sick....
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 4, 2009 8:39:18 GMT -5
I'm going to say something positive about the Chiefs so brace yourself - The kicking game has looked very good this pre-season. Ryan Succop is 7/9 in field goals which isn't that bad. Colquitt has always been one of the better punters in the league. Sadly, the kicking game doesn't score very many points.
Anyway, Hailey calling the plays apparently does not work out very well. Add to that that all three of the Chiefs QB's achieved new levels of suckiness and you get yet another amazing pre-season performance.
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Post by Wuffles on Sept 4, 2009 9:47:23 GMT -5
Is he serious? Of course Anthony Gonzalez isn't playing like Marvin Harrison, Brandon Marshall probably wouldn't either. Harrison was a one of a kind WR in his prime, it will be hard to find somebody to fill his shoes.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 4, 2009 10:05:59 GMT -5
Is he serious? Of course Anthony Gonzalez isn't playing like Marvin Harrison, Brandon Marshall probably wouldn't either. Harrison was a one of a kind WR in his prime, it will be hard to find somebody to fill his shoes. Agreed, that's a completely moronic analysis of Gonzalez's play... This guy is f'n clueless. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure Gonzalez led the NFL in percentage of passes thrown to him caught.
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 4, 2009 10:17:05 GMT -5
2. WR Anquan Boldin to the Titans: The Cardinals really like two of their young receivers and they can part ways with Boldin, who simply wants to get away from Larry Fitzgerald's large shadow. The Titans have a huge need right now with Nate Washington lame with a hamstring and a rookie (Kenny Britt) in the starting lineup. How can Jeff Fisher expect Kerry Collins to win 13 games again without some quality receivers? Yeah ... and then the Titans will have to give Boldin a new contract and be unable to resign their plethora of free agents coming up.
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Post by T R W on Sept 4, 2009 10:32:29 GMT -5
All of this pre-season hype about Atlanta has always seemd premature. Sure, I think our offense will be very good. But, last year we had serious questions about the defense, whcih we weren't really able to address in the offseason. As the pre-season has shown, our defense is extremely vulnerable, and are definitely going to cost us games. I have a hard time believing we can win enough games to make the playoffs with our tough schedule. With games against Miami, New England, and Carolina to start off the season, we will know very quickly whether or not we can compete.
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