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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 15:06:16 GMT -5
I say give him one last run in WWE, ending with a huge send off like Ric Flair's.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Aug 10, 2009 15:06:35 GMT -5
Stay away Hogan. Personally, unless he puts someone over, I don't need to see him. Say he comes in and goes after Cena in one of the biggest babyface vs babyface matches.
I hate Cena, but I don't want to see him drop to the "3 punches, whip into ropes, big boot and leg drop o doom, collect check". I'd prefer to see Cena kick out, 2 FU's and have Hogan tap to the STF. THAT'S what he needs to do. Then shake and raise Cena's hand after the match.
THAT'S a good way to go out. His act is tired and old. Its time to GIVE BACK and really, really make Cena as the top WWE star for the years to come.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 10, 2009 15:07:12 GMT -5
I believe the old saying is the proof is in the pudding. Hogan "passed the torch" to all of those men and none of them lasted. Warrior was a flop. Rock went off to Hollywood and Brock went to play football. Not knocking their decisions cause some of them are making better money then they were before, but they didnt put 20 years in the business as the main guy like Hogan did. Hogan is like Flair, he's not going to get any respect on this board because he wasnt part of the attitude era, wasnt a spot monkey in TLC matches and basically their prime years were behind them before most of the kiddies on this board were born. I'm not sure what are you talking about. I respect Flair, a lot. He did in the 80's what many believe that is not possible today, and that is sold out arenas with technical wrestling. See, I haven't seen any sign of disrespect for Flair. I've just seen he is old, which basically is the truth and isn't in any way being disrespectful. Now, if you are talking about many, including me, want Flair to stay out of the ring is because he is retired. He got a send off like no other, so that is why. As for Hogan, we can't say he was an amazing wrestler. We can say he had tons of charisma and put some people over. Both men did something for the business, but the fact is, Flair should stay retired. He can be a manager, GM, whatever, but please respect what WWE did for you in that send off and don't wrestle. Hogan was never a great wrestler, and with his problems and age, what can we expect? Also the fact that in his recent comebacks he's just buried people. I'm talking about 2005-2007 or 2008. It's true, neither should be in a wrestling ring anymore. Especially Flair, I have all the respect in the world for him but if he gets in the ring again after the beautiful send-off the WWE gave him, it'd be a huge mistake. THAT'S a good way to go out. His act is tired and old. Its time to GIVE BACK and really, really make Cena as the top WWE star for the years to come. If Hulk did that for Warrior and the Rock, I'm sure he'd have no qualms about doing that for Cena. But.. should he even get in the ring?
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 10, 2009 15:08:35 GMT -5
I believe the old saying is the proof is in the pudding. Hogan "passed the torch" to all of those men and none of them lasted. Warrior was a flop. Rock went off to Hollywood and Brock went to play football. Not knocking their decisions cause some of them are making better money then they were before, but they didnt put 20 years in the business as the main guy like Hogan did. Hogan is like Flair, he's not going to get any respect on this board because he wasnt part of the attitude era, wasnt a spot monkey in TLC matches and basically their prime years were behind them before most of the kiddies on this board were born. I honestly have more respect for Flair than I have for alomst any other wrestler ever. I was alive around his prime years but not able to recollect anything since it was 1988. I consider myself one of the tweeners of this board (21) as the majority's either older or in the teens. And for that reason I feel the need, even if unnecessary, to defend myself when I read posts like yours. While I feel you're right, it's not their fault they weren't alive to appreciate the likes of Billy Graham, Ric Flair, Steamboat and co. Just like it wouldn't be your fault for not marking out for Frank Gotch vs Lou Thez or something to that effect. I understand how you feel but I believe that there's a way to express it without seemingly having that old man "you kids today, bleh bleh bleh!" mentality. I'm not bashing bro, just saying.
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Post by carly1988 on Aug 10, 2009 15:11:08 GMT -5
I believe the old saying is the proof is in the pudding. Hogan "passed the torch" to all of those men and none of them lasted. Warrior was a flop. Rock went off to Hollywood and Brock went to play football. Not knocking their decisions cause some of them are making better money then they were before, but they didnt put 20 years in the business as the main guy like Hogan did. Hogan is like Flair, he's not going to get any respect on this board because he wasnt part of the attitude era, wasnt a spot monkey in TLC matches and basically their prime years were behind them before most of the kiddies on this board were born. I'm not sure what are you talking about. I respect Flair, a lot. He did in the 80's what many believe that is not possible today, and that is sold out arenas with technical wrestling. See, I haven't seen any sign of disrespect for Flair. I've just seen he is old, which basically is the truth and isn't in any way being disrespectful. Now, if you are talking about many, including me, want Flair to stay out of the ring is because he is retired. He got a send off like no other, so that is why. As for Hogan, we can't say he was an amazing wrestler. We can say he had tons of charisma and put some people over. Both men did something for the business, but the fact is, Flair should stay retired. He can be a manager, GM, whatever, but please respect what WWE did for you in that send off and don't wrestle. Hogan was never a great wrestler, and with his problems and age, what can we expect? Also the fact that in his recent comebacks he's just buried people. I'm talking about 2005-2007 or 2008. Wasnt directed towards you, and I know its not everyone but take a gander at the classic board. You can always find someone bashing Flair and his accomplishments in that board. Anything from he was carried or was a boring wrestler to he was only the champ cause he was friends with the booker or because he wrestled in smaller arenas...which is the dumbest part cause outside of Mania, WWF rarely wrestled in an arena with more then 20K I understand completely what you're saying. I wasnt alive for the Harley Race or Bob Backlund era (NWA/WWF which ever you were a fan of) but I respect what they did for the business and Ive gone back and watched classic matches that these two had and while it may or may not be my cup of tea, I appreciate those guys. Most fans today dont appreciate Hogans and Flairs. I know they'll use the excuse "well its cause they didnt know when to retire".....well my childhood had Mr. Bob Backlund shoved down my throat vs Bret Hart......but I dont bash Backlund or his accomplishments.
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Post by Sam Hain on Aug 10, 2009 15:11:38 GMT -5
Rocky got one anyways. I'd call the ending of their WMX8 match a 'torch passing', I'm sure Hogan saw it that way too. From one icon to another, just a nice, cool gesture. Speaking of the Rock, maybe he should come back and pass a torch... as I don't recall him ever doing that. So, nevermind bashing on Hogan for no reason here, he's passed torches plenty of times. Not his fault that his successors can't carry them. I hate to get involved in this, but Rocky passed the torch to Lesnar on his way out also.
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Post by Dudewithattitude83 on Aug 10, 2009 15:16:12 GMT -5
hogan has passed the torch byt always seems to try to take it back
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Post by Phantom on Aug 10, 2009 17:04:39 GMT -5
Thers no one on the roster that could have an intresting match with Hogan (maybe Cena). The only thing i would like to see him do at this point is be guest host or GM.
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Post by The Mac on Aug 10, 2009 17:11:46 GMT -5
Hogan is a laugh to watch!
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Aug 10, 2009 17:15:31 GMT -5
He deserves one official - last match in the WWE. Hopefully at Wrestlemania next year.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 10, 2009 17:43:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure what are you talking about. I respect Flair, a lot. He did in the 80's what many believe that is not possible today, and that is sold out arenas with technical wrestling. See, I haven't seen any sign of disrespect for Flair. I've just seen he is old, which basically is the truth and isn't in any way being disrespectful. Now, if you are talking about many, including me, want Flair to stay out of the ring is because he is retired. He got a send off like no other, so that is why. As for Hogan, we can't say he was an amazing wrestler. We can say he had tons of charisma and put some people over. Both men did something for the business, but the fact is, Flair should stay retired. He can be a manager, GM, whatever, but please respect what WWE did for you in that send off and don't wrestle. Hogan was never a great wrestler, and with his problems and age, what can we expect? Also the fact that in his recent comebacks he's just buried people. I'm talking about 2005-2007 or 2008. Wasnt directed towards you, and I know its not everyone but take a gander at the classic board. You can always find someone bashing Flair and his accomplishments in that board. Anything from he was carried or was a boring wrestler to he was only the champ cause he was friends with the booker or because he wrestled in smaller arenas...which is the dumbest part cause outside of Mania, WWF rarely wrestled in an arena with more then 20K I understand completely what you're saying. I wasnt alive for the Harley Race or Bob Backlund era (NWA/WWF which ever you were a fan of) but I respect what they did for the business and Ive gone back and watched classic matches that these two had and while it may or may not be my cup of tea, I appreciate those guys. Most fans today dont appreciate Hogans and Flairs. I know they'll use the excuse "well its cause they didnt know when to retire".....well my childhood had Mr. Bob Backlund shoved down my throat vs Bret Hart......but I dont bash Backlund or his accomplishments. I gotcha dude, and I agree with what you're saying. If you're gonna give someone the old basharoonie, at least know of their work and accomplishments so you have an at least somewhat valid basis of opinion. I'm with you there.
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 10, 2009 18:06:42 GMT -5
2002 won't be remembered as his best year, either way. 2002 wasn't anyone's best year, haha. Well, outside of the SD! 6 and Lesnar. I agree though, Austin had been off his rocker for a bit in 2002, whether it be being burnt out or who knows what.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 20:40:15 GMT -5
Hogan needs to go away and never come back. For me personally, I'd like this, as I have no desire to see him anymore...But hey, that's just me.
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Post by legendkiller2o7 on Aug 10, 2009 20:44:12 GMT -5
I would love for him to come back, i would love to see him get punted, get a codebreaker, get a Masterlock, get a spear from the big show, i would love it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by slappy on Aug 10, 2009 22:11:45 GMT -5
This doesn't belong here. Hogan is not in the WWE. So I'd guess Classics board.
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Post by J12 on Aug 10, 2009 22:17:28 GMT -5
Dammit, dammit, dammit.
The only way I'd ever support Hogan wrestling in WWE again is if it culminated in a huge match with John Cena, which Cena won cleanly.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 11, 2009 11:27:31 GMT -5
Dammit, dammit, dammit. The only way I'd ever support Hogan wrestling in WWE again is if it culminated in a huge match with John Cena, which Cena won cleanly. People would then bitch and cry about Cena not needing a torch to be passed to him by Hogan to begin with. "HEZ ALREDEE AN IKHAN! HE DUZNT NEED UH TORCH!"
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Post by Mark on Aug 11, 2009 11:32:49 GMT -5
God I find Flair and Hogan matches so damn boring, besides that HBK classic match at summerslam
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Post by WM = "The Viper" on Aug 11, 2009 11:40:30 GMT -5
I wonder who he will bury this time around.
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Post by missedgehead on Aug 11, 2009 13:02:04 GMT -5
Rocky got one anyways. I'd call the ending of their WMX8 match a 'torch passing', I'm sure Hogan saw it that way too. From one icon to another, just a nice, cool gesture. Speaking of the Rock, maybe he should come back and pass a torch... as I don't recall him ever doing that. So, nevermind bashing on Hogan for no reason here, he's passed torches plenty of times. Not his fault that his successors can't carry them. Um, the Rock has put over more people than any other champion. I can not remember a big star like the Rock jobbing and putting over people as much as he did. As for Hogan.....for Pete's sakes, just stay retired.
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