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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 12:10:47 GMT -5
I think that is what makes Lil Wayne one of the greatest rappers. He can do both main stream rap that can appeal to everyone and he has a very good Underground rap carareer. I mean if you don't get mainstream you will never make the big $$. and then again you have those rappers who rap for the love and respect they have for what they do ... you know .. not that it matters or anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 14:03:39 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand how you guys can listen to black men rhyme about how much better they are than everybody else. How can you even call it 'music'? Rap promotes violence and drug-use and IMO is the evil seed in America.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 16, 2009 14:13:52 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand how you guys can listen to black men rhyme about how much better they are than everybody else. How can you even call it 'music'? Rap promotes violence and drug-use and IMO is the evil seed in America. A VERY small piece of the massive puzzle that is the Rap game. I won't even begin to go into how wrong you are because, no disrespect, but you obviously speak from ignorance. Just make sure that when you get the chance, throw away your TV and radio as promotion of violence and drug use litters the air waves like no one's business.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 14:20:02 GMT -5
A VERY small piece of the massive puzzle that is the Rap game. I won't even begin to go into how wrong you are because, no disrespect, but you obviously speak from ignorance. Just make sure that when you get the chance, throw away your TV and radio as promotion of violence and drug use litters the air waves like no one's business. Yes, but again: Its just cocky "thugs" talking about how much money they have, how much weed they can smoke, and how much girls they can have sex with. And its all done over a boring loop with bass. Peoploe just like it cuz modern day society and media makes it "cool".
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 16, 2009 14:45:15 GMT -5
A VERY small piece of the massive puzzle that is the Rap game. I won't even begin to go into how wrong you are because, no disrespect, but you obviously speak from ignorance. Just make sure that when you get the chance, throw away your TV and radio as promotion of violence and drug use litters the air waves like no one's business. Yes, but again: Its just cocky "thugs" talking about how much money they have, how much weed they can smoke, and how much girls they can have sex with. And its all done over a boring loop with bass. Peoploe just like it cuz modern day society and media makes it "cool". Isn't that why everyone does everything these days? I mean afterall it IS "pop culture". And like I said, it's a very small part of Rap. Have you noticed that most of the rappers named on this board do not fit under the description that you mentioned above. I think you should look at the rap game as a whole before you generalize the way you just did.
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Post by Doomrider on Aug 16, 2009 15:04:41 GMT -5
I've REALLY been getting into some old school stuff lately.
Hey yo, FAT GIRL...come here, are ya ticklish?
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Post by WFK on Aug 16, 2009 16:15:44 GMT -5
Anyone listened to this? I've been meaning to sit down and give it a listen but haven't done so. Any good?....what am I saying. It's Em...of course it's good.
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Post by Grapple Arcade on Aug 16, 2009 16:37:44 GMT -5
ive gotta give my myself a shout really, THE 27 CLUB, first album out now, and the 2nd is on the way. www.myspace.com/the27clubmusicWe're a North-East, UK, 8-piece group, not everyones cup if tea, but you know, things are going well, some peiople dig it and most of all, we do. The only big time group i could possibly link us to would be The Roots, purely because of our live band element. 2 Vocalists (one of which plays the trombone), Guitar Bass Drums Keys Sax/DJ Trumpet So yeah, hope you enjoy.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 16, 2009 16:53:59 GMT -5
A VERY small piece of the massive puzzle that is the Rap game. I won't even begin to go into how wrong you are because, no disrespect, but you obviously speak from ignorance. Just make sure that when you get the chance, throw away your TV and radio as promotion of violence and drug use litters the air waves like no one's business. Yes, but again: Its just cocky "thugs" talking about how much money they have, how much weed they can smoke, and how much girls they can have sex with. And its all done over a boring loop with bass. Peoploe just like it cuz modern day society and media makes it "cool". OK... A LOT of Movies, Television and Music promote Sex, Drugs and Money... Hell Sex and Drugs at one time were synonymous with Rock and Roll... hence the saying. Seriously nothing has corrupted society more than each other. Media is just a scapegoat to blame today's issues on. Someone hearing a rap song isn't going to make someone kill someone, their mental state is going to be the cause and the music they listen to is simply something to blame. I'd like to challenge you to tell me what you listen to because I'm almost certain it's not much betters less you only listen to some Disney channel artists.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 17:13:52 GMT -5
OK... A LOT of Movies, Television and Music promote Sex, Drugs and Money... Hell Sex and Drugs at one time were synonymous with Rock and Roll... hence the saying. Seriously nothing has corrupted society more than each other. Media is just a scapegoat to blame today's issues on. Someone hearing a rap song isn't going to make someone kill someone, their mental state is going to be the cause and the music they listen to is simply something to blame. I'd like to challenge you to tell me what you listen to because I'm almost certain it's not much betters less you only listen to some Disney channel artists. Oh please, thats a perfect excuse isnt it? Do you live in the innercity? Do you know how negatively hip hop influences young people? I'm pretty sure people who do drive by shootings don't listen to breaking benjamin Hip hop/rap is just a penis size contest. Guys talkin trash to each other to see whos better, not to mention the beats are boring as hell. Who has a healthier mentality and less chance of endin up in prison, Somebody whos listen to 2pac/biggie all thier life or someone whos listend to pop or country or something?
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Post by Jamal on Aug 16, 2009 17:14:02 GMT -5
First time I've ever heard Blu. Hes got a really nice flow.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 16, 2009 17:21:03 GMT -5
OK... A LOT of Movies, Television and Music promote Sex, Drugs and Money... Hell Sex and Drugs at one time were synonymous with Rock and Roll... hence the saying. Seriously nothing has corrupted society more than each other. Media is just a scapegoat to blame today's issues on. Someone hearing a rap song isn't going to make someone kill someone, their mental state is going to be the cause and the music they listen to is simply something to blame. I'd like to challenge you to tell me what you listen to because I'm almost certain it's not much betters less you only listen to some Disney channel artists. Oh please, thats a perfect excuse isnt it? Do you live in the innercity? Do you know how negatively hip hop influences young people? I'm pretty sure people who do drive by shootings don't listen to breaking benjamin Hip hop/rap is just a penis size contest. Guys talkin trash to each other to see whos better, not to mention the beats are boring as hell. Who has a healthier mentality and less chance of endin up in prison, Somebody whos listen to 2pac/biggie all thier life or someone whos listend to pop or country or something? No I do not live in the inner city but I certainly have a basic enough knowledge of a humans psyche to know that there are more influences on things such as drive by shootings than in' media. Just because they are listening to a certain type of music doesn't necessarily mean that they should be typecast as gangsters who are going to partake in drive bys. Guys have been trash talking each other for ages. In other types of music even. Megadeth and Metallica come to mind almost immediately. You are ignorant if you think that the music one listens to is the absolute soul reason that a person chooses a life of crime. A person who listens to 2pac could be just as healthy mentally as someone who listens to Garth Brooks or the Jonas Brothers. Music is all subject to interpretation. I don't listen to rap because it doesn't appeal to me, not because I ACTUALLY think if I listen to it that I'll lose all mental capacity and go smoke some weed and shoot some gangs. The thing stopping me from doing that is my own will power and basic morals, not necessarily the music I listen to. People who do stuff like that are simply weakened people, not always corrupted by their music.. You should try to learn the difference.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 16, 2009 17:27:43 GMT -5
A VERY small piece of the massive puzzle that is the Rap game. I won't even begin to go into how wrong you are because, no disrespect, but you obviously speak from ignorance. Just make sure that when you get the chance, throw away your TV and radio as promotion of violence and drug use litters the air waves like no one's business. Yes, but again: Its just cocky "thugs" talking about how much money they have, how much weed they can smoke, and how much girls they can have sex with. And its all done over a boring loop with bass. Peoploe just like it cuz modern day society and media makes it "cool". Ahaha, and it's incredibly obvious your "knowledge" (a word I use loosely on this particular subject seeing as how you have none) of rap is based upon the one 50 Cent video you saw on BET while flicking through the channels one day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 17:31:21 GMT -5
Yes, but again: Its just cocky "thugs" talking about how much money they have, how much weed they can smoke, and how much girls they can have sex with. And its all done over a boring loop with bass. Peoploe just like it cuz modern day society and media makes it "cool". Ahaha, and it's incredibly obvious your "knowledge" (a word I use loosely on this particular subject seeing as how you have none) of rap is based upon the one 50 Cent video you saw on BET while flicking through the channels one day. 'Underground rap' and rap that common and mos def do is even more boring than mainstream rap so ur point fails.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 16, 2009 17:32:59 GMT -5
Ahaha, and it's incredibly obvious your "knowledge" (a word I use loosely on this particular subject seeing as how you have none) of rap is based upon the one 50 Cent video you saw on BET while flicking through the channels one day. 'Underground rap' and rap that common and mos def do is even more boring than mainstream rap so ur point fails. Sure thing there, chief.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Aug 16, 2009 17:38:31 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand how you guys can listen to black men rhyme about how much better they are than everybody else. How can you even call it 'music'? Rap promotes violence and drug-use and IMO is the evil seed in America. I honestly dont understand how you guys can be a fan of a "sport" where half naked homo-esque men roll around in each others sweat pretending to fight each other. it does nothing but promote hillbilies, sex, violence, and idiocy. but to each their own I suppose.
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Post by Swarm on Aug 16, 2009 17:40:51 GMT -5
Oh please, thats a perfect excuse isnt it? Do you live in the innercity? Do you know how negatively hip hop influences young people? I'm pretty sure people who do drive by shootings don't listen to breaking benjamin Motherf*cker do you live in an inner city? I grew up impoverished for half my life and I can tell you, during that time I never had an opportunity to log on to a toy forum and write 500 word monologues about the negativity in rap music. Ultimately, people do things for their own reasons. I've known a lot of people who have been in gangs, sold drugs, any collection of the type of things you say rap music causes, and not one of them got into it because of rap. Maybe they were poor, maybe somebody pressured them to do it, I've heard a million reasons and not one of them had to do with something Biggie or Pac said. But let's say that isn't true, let's say that yes, the music you listen to does clearly influence one's judgment. Is Marilyn Manson responsible for columbine? The kids who shot up that school listened to Manson, who is a white artist with a white band making rock music. Are The Beatles responsible for Charles Manson's killings? He said he was inspired by "Helter Skelter", again a rock song made by white people. Point is, even if your argument that music influences the way people behave had any merit to it whatsoever, which it doesn't, not only have more than just rap music been in the playlist of people who commit heinous actions but music is also incredibly subjective which means anything can be taken any way. Hip hop/rap is just a penis size contest. Guys talkin trash to each other to see whos better, not to mention the beats are boring as hell. Who has a healthier mentality and less chance of endin up in prison, Somebody whos listen to 2pac/biggie all thier life or someone whos listend to pop or country or something? I'd say somebody who's a middle class white dude who's had every opportunity handed to them their entire life would be less likely to commit crime and go to prison than somebody who's family is poor, lives in urban areas, and is surrounded by crime. What you listen to doesn't matter when you can't get a job and you need to eat. The less options one has to provide for themselves and the ones they love, the bigger the chance they will go outside of the law to be able to do that. But of course, you wouldn't understand any of that because you're just some arrogant tool on a toy forum who believes their perspective of life, that which they've experienced entitles them to an opinion. And while you do have your right to that opinion, it doesn't stop you from being ignorant and it doesn't stop you from being wrong. What it does stop you from is understanding hip hop which is why, ultimately, in this argument, your opinion doesn't matter.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 16, 2009 17:42:21 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand how you guys can listen to black men rhyme about how much better they are than everybody else. How can you even call it 'music'? Rap promotes violence and drug-use and IMO is the evil seed in America. I honestly dont understand how you guys can be a fan of a "sport" where half naked homo-esque men roll around in each others sweat pretending to fight each other. it does nothing but promote hillbilies, sex, violence, and idiocy. but to each their own I suppose. This is win. I don't even like rap really but I can stand posts as ignorant as BFG's... he just like completely glazed over my last rebuttal too... how disappointing. I would also like to say that Alex is my ing hero! Best post on WF since I've joined.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 18:01:06 GMT -5
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Post by Swarm on Aug 16, 2009 18:02:18 GMT -5
You can just admit you lost the argument, nobody's going to judge you.
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