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Post by axemurderer on Aug 26, 2009 16:33:01 GMT -5
how could you assume that I wouldn't have heard the Watcher 2? It had Dre on it. Anything with Dre gets a lot of radio play out here in cali... I agree we are just going in circles but it is all just a matter of opinion. What I don't understand though is you say you know all his underground sh**....you have Infinite through Relapse...you know about his classic freestyles...but you still say he has elementary nursery rhymes... we were comparing Eminem to other rappers out NOW lyrically...Eminem went mainstream too as does everyone. Nas and Jay-Z have been the only 2 to really keep their lyricism above all else. Lyrically all Eminems mainstream albums have been elementary..he has maybe 4 good songs out of what 5 cds that are actually lyrically good.
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Post by Sandy on Aug 26, 2009 16:53:39 GMT -5
how could you assume that I wouldn't have heard the Watcher 2? It had Dre on it. Anything with Dre gets a lot of radio play out here in cali... I agree we are just going in circles but it is all just a matter of opinion. What I don't understand though is you say you know all his underground sh**....you have Infinite through Relapse...you know about his classic freestyles...but you still say he has elementary nursery rhymes... we were comparing Eminem to other rappers out NOW lyrically...Eminem went mainstream too as does everyone. Nas and Jay-Z have been the only 2 to really keep their lyricism above all else. Lyrically all Eminems mainstream albums have been elementary..he has maybe 4 good songs out of what 5 cds that are actually lyrically good. Again..I don't know how you can say that. The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show were classics. Encore wasn't very good. It had maybe a couple of good songs..nothing really worth remembering lyrically 'cept maybe to an extent Mosh, Like Toy Soldiers, Crazy in Love, and Yellow Brick Road. One Last Time was good but you would probably be mad that I am even mentioning that song since it is a club banger.. Relapse was really good though. Deja Vu, Insane, 3am, Stay Wide awake, and Hello were all classic Eminem. It was a good album from a guy who has been gone for 5 years with so much b.s. surrounding him. I expect relapse 2 to be even better.
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Post by axemurderer on Aug 26, 2009 17:01:03 GMT -5
The only song I actually liked from relapse was Careful What You Wish For
(edited because I named the wrong song my bad)
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Post by Blackjack on Aug 26, 2009 17:48:01 GMT -5
So with Drake being "the next new thing" What songs do you recommend? I've heard Successful & Best I ever had but what else makes him the next great
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Post by serialkilla on Aug 26, 2009 18:05:21 GMT -5
I seriously cant believe all this love for the album, not just as im not a hardcore emienem fan, but I have listened through it. My homie gave me a copy, and beautiful was probably the only song i liked from it.
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Post by axemurderer on Aug 26, 2009 18:30:48 GMT -5
So with Drake being "the next new thing" What songs do you recommend? I've heard Successful & Best I ever had but what else makes him the next great i dont know cause i have a few leaked tracks and i dont hear anything that makes me think he will be big.
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Post by Sandy on Aug 26, 2009 19:22:10 GMT -5
I can't wait to hear this song with Lil Wayne, Drake, Eminem, and Kanye. I have a feeling I'm going to be let down but we'll have to wait and see I guess.
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Post by King of Kings on Aug 26, 2009 19:33:27 GMT -5
I seriously cant believe all this love for the album, not just as im not a hardcore emienem fan, but I have listened through it. My homie gave me a copy, and beautiful was probably the only song i liked from it. But, you like that juggalo stuff...therefore..opinion voided. But to summarize...Eminem is a legend in rap. In 50 years, you're going to hear about him, 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Biggie and a few others, whether you like it or not. 50 and Snoop aren't even that great, but they're still the most known. Eminem on the other hand, IS talented. Everyone has their own tastes.
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Post by Sandy on Aug 26, 2009 20:33:00 GMT -5
WOW...
Drake ft. Kanye West, Lil Wayne, and Eminem- Forever.
Youtube it.
Drake held his own..I thought he would have the weakest verse but he didn't...Kanye kills that sh**. Em's verse is insane. Kanye still stole the show though...but he always does in features so that isn't surprising.. Weezy's flow is probably the weakest of the four..which probably backs up Shogun of Harlems point. But I really like the song. I'm listening to it for the third time right now..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 0:12:23 GMT -5
Damn , im excited to hear it now. Heard it , sounds good. Wish they picked another beat On Drakes twitter he stated that the version leaked on the net is the wrong one. New one coming Friday
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Post by Sandy on Aug 27, 2009 0:23:57 GMT -5
thats weird because they played it on Power. I figured Power would know if the version wasn't the one that is supposed to come out..
but if there is another one I can't wait to hear it.
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Post by serialkilla on Aug 27, 2009 5:10:22 GMT -5
I seriously cant believe all this love for the album, not just as im not a hardcore emienem fan, but I have listened through it. My homie gave me a copy, and beautiful was probably the only song i liked from it. But, you like that juggalo stuff...therefore..opinion voided. But to summarize...Eminem is a legend in rap. In 50 years, you're going to hear about him, 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Biggie and a few others, whether you like it or not. 50 and Snoop aren't even that great, but they're still the most known. Eminem on the other hand, IS talented. Everyone has their own tastes. No I also have heard some Eminem songs that I have liked, such as "When im gone" and "Mockingbird" and "Stan". And I liked those, its prob just me but the album made him basically look dum as hell. Talking about how his step dad or maybe real dad i dont in know molested him. And then bagpipes from bagdad makes him look like a pediphile.... So yea.
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Post by axemurderer on Aug 27, 2009 7:31:49 GMT -5
the majority of eminems lyrics are about pedophelia, rape, drugs, prescription meds, and killing of his family...this is why I stand by my original statement that Eminems last 4 albums or so have all been elementary garbage and very simple except for a few songs across the board
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 7:42:40 GMT -5
the majority of eminems lyrics are about pedophelia, rape, drugs, prescription meds, and killing of his family...this is why I stand by my original statement that Eminems last 4 albums or so have all been elementary garbage and very simple except for a few songs across the board You sir , fail.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Aug 27, 2009 8:20:57 GMT -5
I seriously cant believe all this love for the album, not just as im not a hardcore emienem fan, but I have listened through it. My homie gave me a copy, and beautiful was probably the only song i liked from it. Underground Was Probably the Best Track on their followed by Beautiful
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Aug 27, 2009 8:24:28 GMT -5
But, you like that juggalo stuff...therefore..opinion voided. But to summarize...Eminem is a legend in rap. In 50 years, you're going to hear about him, 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, Tupac, Biggie and a few others, whether you like it or not. 50 and Snoop aren't even that great, but they're still the most known. Eminem on the other hand, IS talented. Everyone has their own tastes. No I also have heard some Eminem songs that I have liked, such as "When im gone" and "Mockingbird" and "Stan". And I liked those, its prob just me but the album made him basically look dum as hell. Talking about how his step dad or maybe real dad i dont in know molested him. And then bagpipes from bagdad makes him look like a pediphile.... So yea. Boocaster if you have heard as much Eminem as i have then you would consider him Legend His is in the Top 5 Greatest MC's Of all time
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Post by axemurderer on Aug 27, 2009 11:19:46 GMT -5
the majority of eminems lyrics are about pedophelia, rape, drugs, prescription meds, and killing of his family...this is why I stand by my original statement that Eminems last 4 albums or so have all been elementary garbage and very simple except for a few songs across the board You sir , fail. wait I fail because he sings about stuff a 13 yr old boy would laugh at and i refuse to acknowledge that trash as good MC skills ? Please youngin..save that crap for someone who doesn't care about lyrics....you actually fail for thinking tha crap is cool and good lyricism
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Aug 27, 2009 11:50:38 GMT -5
I think that is what makes Lil Wayne one of the greatest rappers. He can do both main stream rap that can appeal to everyone and he has a very good Underground rap carareer. I mean if you don't get mainstream you will never make the big $$. Dude Lil Wayne uses Ghost Writers for all his songs and he pays them like $30,000 a year which is crap. Let Me Fix what you said Lil Wayne is the Greatest Rapper Who uses Ghost writers... oh wait then their is Dr.Dre shoot i guess what i mean to say is that lil wayne is the cheapest ghost writer rapper that pays their writers less then a $2 hooker cause at least a $10 Hooker makes over what they make for one song for just meeting 7 guys
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 13:20:09 GMT -5
wait I fail because he sings about stuff a 13 yr old boy would laugh at and i refuse to acknowledge that trash as good MC skills ? Please youngin..save that crap for someone who doesn't care about lyrics....you actually fail for thinking tha crap is cool and good lyricism 76+ Million Records sold worldwide proves my point that you fail
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Post by Sandy on Aug 27, 2009 13:55:19 GMT -5
wait I fail because he sings about stuff a 13 yr old boy would laugh at and i refuse to acknowledge that trash as good MC skills ? Please youngin..save that crap for someone who doesn't care about lyrics....you actually fail for thinking tha crap is cool and good lyricism yeah youngin's... that sh** is trash. What you kids need to listen to is rappers who talk about smoking blunts, driving expensive cars, and f***ing h***. [/sarcasm] you are a very confused guy, Shogun. You first credit Eminem for still having good lyrics along with Nas, Common, Kanye, and Jay-z... but now you are saying his lyrics are Garbage...do you have bi-polar?
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