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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 21:49:32 GMT -5
I've always heard that Bischoff got the idea for the nwo from a group in new japan, but i was never able to find any information on it. On the new WCW dvd, they mention it and show a clip of the group of Chono, Liger, and Sonny Onoo. I don't recognize the rest of them. I wanted to read about this, but I just can't find anything after reading each of their wikipedias and searching every subject i could think of. Anyone know what they were called or want to tell me the story?
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Post by zappa2510 on Aug 26, 2009 22:00:54 GMT -5
yea i saw that too on the DVD, would like to know more aswell.
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Aug 26, 2009 22:05:08 GMT -5
How do they bring this up on the new WCW dvd? Like, are they knocking Bischoff for supposedly stealing the idea, hating on him for doing it - or what?
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 26, 2009 22:05:34 GMT -5
No, they just explained where the idea came from.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 22:30:21 GMT -5
There was no hate on bischoff. I was actually surprised how much everyone put him over and called him brilliant and a genious several times. They just said it was inspired by an angle in new japan, but that bischoff put his own spin on it and made it successful
They sure pooped on russo and jarrett though, lol
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 26, 2009 22:51:38 GMT -5
There was no specific "angle" that happened in NJPW that Bischoff had to of gotten it from. NJPW would just always have invaders come in from other companies.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Aug 26, 2009 22:51:53 GMT -5
RD Reynolds discusses it in The Death of WCW, but I can't remember it to save my life.
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Post by thunderliger on Aug 26, 2009 22:55:22 GMT -5
I've always heard that Bischoff got the idea for the nwo from a group in new japan, but i was never able to find any information on it. On the new WCW dvd, they mention it and show a clip of the group of Chono, Liger, and Sonny Onoo. I don't recognize the rest of them. I wanted to read about this, but I just can't find anything after reading each of their wikipedias and searching every subject i could think of. Anyone know what they were called or want to tell me the story? +1 for the post. This is interesting stuff. I wont be getting the dvd until next month (my birthday) so I havent seen that clip, it'd be nice for someone to post a pic of this group in Japan.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Aug 26, 2009 22:59:36 GMT -5
This is said group in question that was shown in the DVD.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 26, 2009 23:00:49 GMT -5
Kanemoto, Chono, Sasaki, Saito, Liger and Otani. That was taken when WCW had NJPW guys come in. You can see Sasaki with the WCW U.S. title.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 23:07:41 GMT -5
+1 for the post. This is interesting stuff. I wont be getting the dvd until next month (my birthday) so I havent seen that clip, it'd be nice for someone to post a pic of this group in Japan. Here's a shot from the dvd. It's basically all they show. Edit: HA, got beaten there. Sapp- are you sure there was "no specific angle?" Dean malenko said it was "an interworking group within the company that was a rival group against everyone else in the company"
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Post by thunderliger on Aug 26, 2009 23:12:17 GMT -5
Thanks guys, awesome
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 27, 2009 0:01:15 GMT -5
+1 for the post. This is interesting stuff. I wont be getting the dvd until next month (my birthday) so I havent seen that clip, it'd be nice for someone to post a pic of this group in Japan. Here's a shot from the dvd. It's basically all they show. Edit: HA, got beaten there. Sapp- are you sure there was "no specific angle?" Dean malenko said it was "an interworking group within the company that was a rival group against everyone else in the company" IF it was what I'm thinking, I would ASSUME it was the NJPW vs. UWF thing that happened in the late 80s. That's the only other thing it could be.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 27, 2009 0:19:32 GMT -5
+1 for the post. This is interesting stuff. I wont be getting the dvd until next month (my birthday) so I havent seen that clip, it'd be nice for someone to post a pic of this group in Japan. Here's a shot from the dvd. It's basically all they show. Was the suit shop closed just by the time Liger got there or what?
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Aug 27, 2009 0:39:16 GMT -5
I think Chono has it best, trying to look like the high school bad ass with the leather jacket and staring in other direction pose.
Bad ass.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 27, 2009 1:43:36 GMT -5
Not at all. Chono owns his own clothing company, and he likes to flaunt it I guess.
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Aug 27, 2009 14:20:50 GMT -5
Cool stuff! So, were they hating on Jarrett big time? I don't get why they would - he wasn't booking at all in WCW was he? Plus, him being pushed was a breath of fresh air to the World Title scene, and he also put over Booker T for the World Title.
Were they sort of like, just hating to hate?
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Post by Bob Sapp on Aug 27, 2009 15:29:51 GMT -5
No, they were pretty much poking fun at Jarrett being the main focus of the company when he never drew a dime beforehand.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 27, 2009 17:33:18 GMT -5
No, they were pretty much poking fun at Jarrett being the main focus of the company when he never drew a dime beforehand. Which subtly jabs TNA as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 17:38:22 GMT -5
No, they were pretty much poking fun at Jarrett being the main focus of the company when he never drew a dime beforehand. Do you think that's because he wasn't given a chance, or...? I dunno myself, but what I find incredulous is that Bischoff had no qualms appearing on the Rise + Fall Of ECW DVD, but didn't want to contribute to this one... Anyway...
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