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Post by SodaGuy on Sept 6, 2009 17:14:29 GMT -5
AJ made his pro-debut in '98. That doesn't mean he invented the Styles Clash in 98, and Crash was in ECW in 98, where I am pretty sure that he used it on Vic Grimes. I know, I never said he invented it. I was just correcting your mistake on when he made his pro-debut.
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Post by The Dude on Sept 6, 2009 17:24:13 GMT -5
Oh, I see.
Well I am not against AJ making it a huge move. I was just trying to note that I did indeed see Crash use it before AJ. While AJ may have used it before WCW I don't know, but Crash did use it before WWE, and a few times in WWE.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Sept 7, 2009 10:00:54 GMT -5
No, he's actually not "right on the money". Theres plenty of networks to air your product on. It's just a matter of whether that station wants wrestling on their channel. Wrestling still has a bad name and a lot of people still look at is as a joke. TNA should try to take a crack at the CW, for a second show. You also have TNT and TBS, that at one point... carried wrestling. And if McMahon goes through with WWETV, it'll open up even more. - Triple S I heard FX was even looking for a show. They're fairly edgy so they could pull it off, or another new promotion.
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Post by Mofoin' Mizfit on Sept 7, 2009 11:40:03 GMT -5
I read it as AJ Styles on WWE Superstars, the tv show. Same here Guilty.
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Post by Deep Shadows on Sept 7, 2009 23:21:47 GMT -5
Ugh...I can't wait to see why this person wants to be MADE into a wrestler.
That last one really p*ssed me off. He wanted to be a wrestler simply because he wanted to impress his older brother.
I remember contacting them years ago to make me into a pro wrestler because I simply wanted to be one. I just absolutely loved the sport and didn't want to do anything else. They said that they wouldn't take on anything dealing with the pursuit of fame...which wasn't the case at all. I doubt they even read my email in full.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2009 23:50:37 GMT -5
It's a known fact, AJ didn't invent the Styles Clash. Wasn't it proven that someone in a Japanese promotion created it... Styles just made it big, nationally. - Triple S ...Hence why it's called 'The Styles Clash', eh? He's very down-to-earth, which is great.
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Post by newfrigginshow on Sept 8, 2009 8:58:55 GMT -5
Whether it existed in Japan or not before I don't know. I do know that AJ claims to have invented it on his trampoline many years ago. Like he said it's hard to do a move no one has done or thought of before. Regardless he made it famous.
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Sept 8, 2009 9:46:03 GMT -5
It still looks nothing like it. AJ finishes the Spiral Tap with a senton, Morrison finishes with a splash, starting positions are different, hell even the midair spin is different. They're completely different. Fair point, that's the only thing he could be on about though. Morrison vs Dreamer, the first ECW after Morrison won the title I think, extreme rules match and he did it off the barricade.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Sept 8, 2009 16:17:51 GMT -5
I've never seen Morrison do the Spiral Tap. Starship Pain without the Split Legged part. Wrestling moves are like recipes...once you change one little detail, it's different and you've effectively made it your own.
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Post by hollywoodundead on Sept 8, 2009 19:16:34 GMT -5
I have always liked Aj Styles too bad he hasn't got that big push in the last year or so.
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Post by MX5 on Sept 8, 2009 19:41:29 GMT -5
Starship pain isn't anything like a spiral tap. Spiral tap = 360 frontflip, Starship pain = 360 backflip. The only common thing is the 360.
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Post by Bozwell634™ on Sept 8, 2009 23:01:09 GMT -5
Got a point about Michelles Move tho, everytime i see it i think Styles clash so its good for TNA really in some aspects.
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Post by SodaGuy on Sept 8, 2009 23:04:50 GMT -5
Got a point about Michelles Move tho, everytime i see it i think Styles clash so its good for TNA really in some aspects. Yeah, until someone who's never seen AJ finally sees his match and goes "OMGZ HE STOLE THAT FROM MICHELLE MCCOOL!"
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Post by The Stranger on Sept 8, 2009 23:45:38 GMT -5
In any event, RIP Crash.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Sept 9, 2009 1:06:55 GMT -5
I think the move that AJ is talking about that is Senshi's is the Tidal Wave or springboard kick that JoMo does.
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