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Post by timebombversion420 on Jul 27, 2007 21:35:28 GMT -5
he damn sure does sounds just like jericho
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 27, 2007 21:46:00 GMT -5
Well it isn't your fault, it's one of the reasons I hate TNA... people say they use all their talent better than the WWE but they don't and Johnny Devine is a PRIME example of that... He is easily better on the mic than Joe, has a boatload of charisma and all they have to do is give him something to work with. He has always been latched to some stable, give him room to move around and be what he is capable of being. I know Johnny Devine could do so much better than he has for TNA but first TNA has to give him the opportunity to do something... I say let Devine wrestle as a single's wrestler with his attitude/gimmick he's used in Stampede. Let him use the "Hotshot" nickname, let him do what he can do. He could wrestle awesome matches with most every over X-Division wrestler but they barely let him... Are you still all over Devine's cock? Jesus Christ, just because he's from your home province in Canada doesn't mean he's any good. Believe it or not many of us have seen his non-TNA work, and heard him cut a promo, it isn't good. If Devine was as wonderful as you make him out to be, he'd be working for indies that people care about and not one's in bum  Canada. He's a low card wrestler nobody except you cares about. He's a waste of roster space. His best promo wouldn't out do Joe's worst, on Joe's worst day. Samoa Joe with bronchial flu could out promo Devine. You could let Devine do any gimmick he wanted, it still would not matter to anyone but you. Way to go. Devine is from Manitoba... if you would try to understand, Edmonton is in Alberta... 2 seperate provinces. Also, it doesn't matter how many American indy promotions he works for, I pay no attention to that garbage. As for the Joe/Devine promo comment, I would love to prove you wrong but I can't find any videos up on Youtube of Devine promos. I'm pretty sure with the right push, gimmick etc, People would care about Devine. Call me crazy but that is just the way it is... BTW, I say Canadian Wrestling > American Wrestling |
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 27, 2007 22:42:25 GMT -5
I'm just like "PLATINUM". I'm a Devine fan. I'm a fan of his TNA in-ring work but never heard him cut a promo really untill this. Makes me even more of a fan. I'm not going to bash TNA for not using him because they don't have much to work with but when they get 2 horus or another show I hope he goes somewhere.
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Post by quepaso on Jul 27, 2007 23:12:57 GMT -5
Devine is from Manitoba... if you would try to understand, Edmonton is in Alberta... 2 seperate provinces. Also, it doesn't matter how many American indy promotions he works for, I pay no attention to that garbage. Ok, wrong province, but again when was the last time either province was relevant to common society? Yeah not since the olympics. I'm glad you pay no attention to that garbage because now I know nothing that comes from your mouth is any bit valid. As for the Joe/Devine promo comment, I would love to prove you wrong but I can't find any videos up on Youtube of Devine promos. How is Devine better then Joe on promos if as you so elequently put it, "pay no attention to that garbage?" Talking out of your ass only ends in me proving you wrong. I know Western Canada isn't exactly known to bring common sense and decency but, use some common sense and decency. Of course the glorious youtube has come up empty for those masterful Ric Flair circa 1986 promos esque promos from his lordship Johnny Devine. They don't exist. I'm pretty sure with the right push, gimmick etc, People would care about Devine. Call me crazy but that is just the way it is... I'm pretty sure if my aunt had a pair of balls she'd be my uncle. But you have to be able to showcase talent to deserve a push and proper gimmick. Until then Devine is destined to be where he belongs, wearing a skirt and being a low card act on an hour long tv show. BTW, I say Canadian Wrestling > American Wrestling BTW, I say Iranian Food > Chinese Food, but that doesn't make it true. Please check your home country values at the door. I'm sure you'll come back with yet another set of replies for me to hammer right on out of the park. I welcome it. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 28, 2007 4:57:28 GMT -5
Devine is from Manitoba... if you would try to understand, Edmonton is in Alberta... 2 seperate provinces. Also, it doesn't matter how many American indy promotions he works for, I pay no attention to that garbage. Ok, wrong province, but again when was the last time either province was relevant to common society? Yeah not since the olympics. I'm glad you pay no attention to that garbage because now I know nothing that comes from your mouth is any bit valid. How is Devine better then Joe on promos if as you so elequently put it, "pay no attention to that garbage?" Talking out of your ass only ends in me proving you wrong. I know Western Canada isn't exactly known to bring common sense and decency but, use some common sense and decency. Of course the glorious youtube has come up empty for those masterful Ric Flair circa 1986 promos esque promos from his lordship Johnny Devine. They don't exist. I'm pretty sure if my aunt had a pair of balls she'd be my uncle. But you have to be able to showcase talent to deserve a push and proper gimmick. Until then Devine is destined to be where he belongs, wearing a skirt and being a low card act on an hour long tv show. BTW, I say Canadian Wrestling > American Wrestling BTW, I say Iranian Food > Chinese Food, but that doesn't make it true. Please check your home country values at the door. I'm sure you'll come back with yet another set of replies for me to hammer right on out of the park. I welcome it. I refuse to argue with someone over my opinion just because they are too dumb to accept it. To be perfectly honest, I have my opinions straight. Devine is misused in TNA and I can't stand it. He deserves so much more. You may not agree with it but I think that he is better than Samoa Joe. You started this argument, not me so I am ending it right now. I would like to ask a question though, Why do people hate others opinions? I seriously said what I thought and you jumped down my throat... it's called an opinion, and it's my opinion. Go waste your life sitting in your parents basement watching PWG or ROH tapes while I try living what everyone else calls a life which would involve working and not masterbating to Samoa Joe or Chris Hero matches... And as for the Youtube/Devine promo comment, the reason they don't exist is because there is only like four ways someone can hear a Devine promo... Live at a Canada Independant show (because you know, I care more about the Canadian Independant scene being from Canada) or on one of his 1 tape/2 DVD's... Like I said to someone last time I got into an argument over Devine, I would be happy to rip some matches and promos however I don't have a DVD ripper... |
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Post by quepaso on Jul 28, 2007 12:44:29 GMT -5
I refuse to argue with someone over my opinion just because they are too dumb to accept it. To be perfectly honest, I have my opinions straight. Devine is misused in TNA and I can't stand it. He deserves so much more. You may not agree with it but I think that he is better than Samoa Joe. You started this argument, not me so I am ending it right now. If you refused to argue with someone, then you wouldn't be replying. I'm glad you have your opinions straight, that's marvelous, but that doesn't mean they are anywhere near accurate. Even more proof of you being a goof, you claim to end it now, but there's still more you typed arguing about the man crush you have on Devine. Dude, at least if you make a point or a statement live up to it. I would like to ask a question though, Why do people hate others opinions? I seriously said what I thought and you jumped down my throat... it's called an opinion, and it's my opinion. Go waste your life sitting in your parents basement watching PWG or ROH tapes while I try living what everyone else calls a life which would involve working and not masterbating to Samoa Joe or Chris Hero matches... I didn't "jump down your throat," I made multiple points proving you wrong. My apartment does not have a basement, I don't live with my parents anymore. Nobody on earth has "tapes" anymore. Maybe in Canada where the civilization isn't caught up to the rest of America yet, but no more tapes in the states. My life is just fine, there's no wrestler that nobody cares about that I have a man crush over. I'm not a Chris Hero fan, and Samoa Joe is a great wrestler, has been proven to be a great wrestler, and is genuinely loved by the entire wrestling fan community. I'm convinced that anytime someone on this board gets proved wrong and out debated, the other has to go to a comment about masturbation. That's like waving the white flag after a fight. WEAK. And as for the Youtube/Devine promo comment, the reason they don't exist is because there is only like four ways someone can hear a Devine promo... Live at a Canada Independant show (because you know, I care more about the Canadian Independant scene being from Canada) or on one of his 1 tape/2 DVD's... Like I said to someone last time I got into an argument over Devine, I would be happy to rip some matches and promos however I don't have a DVD ripper... I'm sure Johnny Devine's promos are so great they aren't on dvd. It's impossible for him to have a best of dvd, so we can wipe out that option. If you're so intent on making sure we all know of your love for Devine's promos and matches you'd save your money up buy a dvd ripper, and rip matches and promos for us all to see why you're so right. As Nick Bakay says, "Keep Living the Dream." |
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Post by wwemark1 on Jul 28, 2007 15:38:05 GMT -5
How the did MY THREAD go from talkling about a superstar sounding like another superstar to a fight? If you two want to bitch then take it to PMs not in my theread please. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 29, 2007 20:14:50 GMT -5
To be fair, he's the one who ripped into me... I just said that I think Devine is unfairly used in TNA. He isn't given the right opportunity and has only been stuck in different stables throughout his entire time in TNA which is unfortunate. He is very charismatic and very talented on the mic. Then this guy comes in here and rips on me for "being on Devine's dick". I just happen to know that Devine is capable of so much more than he is doing in TNA and alot of other people don't know what he is capable of because he hasn't been given an opportunity to shine as singles competitor... And as for the Youtube/Devine promo comment, the reason they don't exist is because there is only like four ways someone can hear a Devine promo... Live at a Canada Independant show (because you know, I care more about the Canadian Independant scene being from Canada) or on one of his 1 tape/2 DVD's... Like I said to someone last time I got into an argument over Devine, I would be happy to rip some matches and promos however I don't have a DVD ripper... I'm sure Johnny Devine's promos are so great they aren't on dvd. It's impossible for him to have a best of dvd, so we can wipe out that option. If you're so intent on making sure we all know of your love for Devine's promos and matches you'd save your money up buy a dvd ripper, and rip matches and promos for us all to see why you're so right. I still don't know why I have to prove to YOU that Devine is talented. You can choose not believe me, doesn't matter to me. The point is that I have my opinion straight on the way TNA uses him and I am pretty sure that a lot of people who have seen his matches in PWA, Stampede, AWE etc know how much better Devine is than he is being made out to be in TNA... that is all that matters to me... |
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Post by quepaso on Jul 29, 2007 21:49:57 GMT -5
To be fair, he's the one who ripped into me... I just said that I think Devine is unfairly used in TNA. He isn't given the right opportunity and has only been stuck in different stables throughout his entire time in TNA which is unfortunate. He is very charismatic and very talented on the mic. Then this guy comes in here and rips on me for "being on Devine's dick". I just happen to know that Devine is capable of so much more than he is doing in TNA and alot of other people don't know what he is capable of because he hasn't been given an opportunity to shine as singles competitor... To be fair, I made accurate points while you continued to profess your love for Devine without backing it up. Evidently you're the only one who sees anything other then low card, skirt wearer for Devine. If he's so great post some clips that I've not seen. I still don't know why I have to prove to YOU that Devine is talented. You can choose not believe me, doesn't matter to me. The point is that I have my opinion straight on the way TNA uses him and I am pretty sure that a lot of people who have seen his matches in PWA, Stampede, AWE etc know how much better Devine is than he is being made out to be in TNA... that is all that matters to me... The point of winning an argument is to prove the other wrong. You have not proven anything other then you love Johnny Devine. If he wasn't lazy and sloppy in the ring and showed an ounce of charisma he'd get a push. I've seen the several PWA matches, several Stampede matches(actually more then several), there is nothing there. He brings nothing unique to the table that can't be found on a local indy show in bum , Wisconsin. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 29, 2007 22:08:34 GMT -5
I didn't freaking come in here to argue. THAT is the problem... YOU were the one who wanted to start an argument, not me. I said nothing in my post that was supposed to provoke an argument but you come in here on your high horse saying "Are you still on Devine's dick?" To answer your question, I am a REALLY big Johnny Devine fan, the difference between me and you however is that I don't try and shove my opinion down your throat. I shouldn't have to tell the world my reason for liking Johnny Devine. The point is, I am a huge fan and I would like to see him pushed up the card. Don't like it? learn to love it. Why? because he is positively Devine...
Just for craps and giggles, I would like to see you do a few things...
-Name the "PWA" promotion that Devine wrestled in (because there is so many PWA's in the world)... what does PWA stand for when you are refering to the one that Devine wrestled in...
-Name at least one of his matches that he wrestled in in PWA... and I would expect it to be after he debuted in TNA because you seem like the kind of person who hadn't heard of Devine until he debuted in TNA...
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Post by quepaso on Jul 30, 2007 17:50:35 GMT -5
I didn't freaking come in here to argue. THAT is the problem... YOU were the one who wanted to start an argument, not me. I said nothing in my post that was supposed to provoke an argument but you come in here on your high horse saying "Are you still on Devine's dick?" To answer your question, I am a REALLY big Johnny Devine fan, the difference between me and you however is that I don't try and shove my opinion down your throat. I shouldn't have to tell the world my reason for liking Johnny Devine. You've yet to really give a real reason why you're a "REALLY big" Johnny Devine fan. He's not very good and clearly you are the only one who sees anything there. The point is, I am a huge fan and I would like to see him pushed up the card. Don't like it? learn to love it. Why? because he is positively Devine... What are you cutting a wrestling promo or something? This is a message board, and you are sounding like some type of fanboy. Just for ****s and giggles, I would like to see you do a few things... I'm sure you would -Name the "PWA" promotion that Devine wrestled in (because there is so many PWA's in the world)... what does PWA stand for when you are refering to the one that Devine wrestled in... That would be the Prairie Wrestling Alliance based in Edmonton Alberta. They've got some guys there like Raj Singh, Juggernaught is still around I believe, and so is Apocolypse. The last I saw they had a guy there named Dusty Adonis, a Joey Ryan rip off. Not a great fed, but I did want to check out a couple Randy Meyers matches and got PWA. -Name at least one of his matches that he wrestled in in PWA... and I would expect it to be after he debuted in TNA because you seem like the kind of person who hadn't heard of Devine until he debuted in TNA... A few things, is actually 3 or more, you asked for a couple of things. The Five Johnny Devine matches I have on tape from Prairie Wrestling Alliance include the following... vs. Duke Derango vs. TJ Wilson vs. Samoa Joe vs. Harry Smith vs. Juggernaut Just for fun here's seven other matches from the illustrious career of Johnny Devine that I wasted my time with, and according to my tape list they come from Stampede in Calgary, and one from Border City Wrestling vs. Harry Smith vs. Juggernaut vs. Juggernaut vs. Apocolypse vs. Teddy Hart vs. TJ Wilson Battle Royal Any other comments and concerns? |
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Post by DeadMan9O™ on Jul 30, 2007 17:56:23 GMT -5
That's insane.
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Post by Heresy on Jul 30, 2007 18:11:45 GMT -5
He sounded exactly like Jericho in the first few seconds, then the voice became more unique. Anyway, a Jericho-imitation gimmick for Devine would be the crap... he should have got a singles push as soon as a he returned to TNA.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 30, 2007 18:12:48 GMT -5
I didn't freaking come in here to argue. THAT is the problem... YOU were the one who wanted to start an argument, not me. I said nothing in my post that was supposed to provoke an argument but you come in here on your high horse saying "Are you still on Devine's dick?" To answer your question, I am a REALLY big Johnny Devine fan, the difference between me and you however is that I don't try and shove my opinion down your throat. I shouldn't have to tell the world my reason for liking Johnny Devine. You've yet to really give a real reason why you're a "REALLY big" Johnny Devine fan. He's not very good and clearly you are the only one who sees anything there. I may be the only one who sees anything in Devine but atleast I am willing to STILL call myself a Devine fan after coming under fire by SO many people. Unlike lesser men, I do not jump on and off bandwagons.What are you cutting a wrestling promo or something? This is a message board, and you are sounding like some type of fanboy. Actually, I am not going to lie, that was Devine's catchphrase in PWA. I was just seeing if you actually noticed since you have apparently seen his PWA matches...That would be the Prairie Wrestling Alliance based in Edmonton Alberta. They've got some guys there like Raj Singh, Juggernaught is still around I believe, and so is Apocolypse. The last I saw they had a guy there named Dusty Adonis, a Joey Ryan rip off. Not a great fed, but I did want to check out a couple Randy Meyers matches and got PWA. Congrats, you are smarter than I gave you credit for. Although Juggy is retiring, Apoc is supposed to be trying out for OVW soon and I can't remember the last time I saw Raj... but I will give you at least some credit for knowing that  -Name at least one of his matches that he wrestled in in PWA... and I would expect it to be after he debuted in TNA because you seem like the kind of person who hadn't heard of Devine until he debuted in TNA... A few things, is actually 3 or more, you asked for a couple of things. So what? The Five Johnny Devine matches I have on tape from Prairie Wrestling Alliance include the following... vs. Duke Durrangovs. TJ Wilson vs. Samoa Joe I was there, where were you?vs. Harry Smith vs. Juggernaut Alright, that's pretty good.Just for fun here's seven other matches from the illustrious career of Johnny Devine that I wasted my time with, and according to my tape list they come from Stampede in Calgary, and one from Border City Wrestling vs. Harry Smith vs. Juggernaut vs. Juggernaut vs. Apocolypse vs. Teddy Hart vs. TJ Wilson Battle Royal One of his bigger matches in his career came in Stampede (if I remember correctly) and you didn't even list it. It would be his match against Sabu. But by the looks of it you bought or at least looked at his DVD's he had on sale at the Mayhem show...Any other comments and concerns? Now to be fair, I appreciate the fact that you actually took the time to list some matches. Out of all the debate I had about Devine, you are probably the only guy who I can appreciate where they came from. For the simple reason that you were able to list so many matches outside of TNA. Props to you. However I still will not waver in my support in Devine. I will always think that he is decent on the mic and good in the ring. However if it wasn't obvious, he is one of my favorites for more than just his talent inside the ring. He is easily one of the nicest wrestlers I have met outside of the ring. All of the PWA wrestlers are incredibly nice people. That is another reason that I like Devine is because he is such a nice person outside of the ring as well as talented inside of the ring. Like I said, I may be the only person who likes Devine as much as I do but that is just the way things are. I am a huge Devine fan and I will probably always be. |
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Post by quepaso on Jul 30, 2007 19:34:42 GMT -5
I may be the only one who sees anything in Devine but atleast I am willing to STILL call myself a Devine fan after coming under fire by SO many people. Unlike lesser men, I do not jump on and off bandwagons. That's fine and a respectable thing to do. But I'm not quite sure why you're there to begin with. Actually, I am not going to lie, that was Devine's catchphrase in PWA. I was just seeing if you actually noticed since you have apparently seen his PWA matches. Lifting generic promo phrases does not make it his catchphrase. "Don't like it? learn to love it." used by Tully Blanchard, Ric Flair, Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig(circa 1987), Hulk Hogan, and the entire NWO at some points during their heyday. "Why? because he is positively Devine." yet another boosted phrase from Dave Shultz during the early 80's, I assume that is when Devine was a kid and Shultz was in Stampede. Congrats, you are smarter than I gave you credit for. Although Juggy is retiring, Apoc is supposed to be trying out for OVW soon and I can't remember the last time I saw Raj... but I will give you at least some credit for knowing that Juggurnaut has bad knees, Apocolypse has already tried out at OVW and nothing of note came from it. Raj Singh is on one of their next shows I believe. I don't say things I can't back up. Simple classification and grammar issue. Alright, that's pretty good. Of course it is, my tape and dvd collection is ginormous. One of his bigger matches in his career came in Stampede (if I remember correctly) and you didn't even list it. It would be his match against Sabu. But by the looks of it you bought or at least looked at his DVD's he had on sale at the Mayhem show I live nowhere near Canada nor have I attended a show with Devine on it in person. When I trade tapes I get what I need. Now to be fair, I appreciate the fact that you actually took the time to list some matches. Out of all the debate I had about Devine, you are probably the only guy who I can appreciate where they came from. For the simple reason that you were able to list so many matches outside of TNA. Props to you. However I still will not waver in my support in Devine. I will always think that he is decent on the mic and good in the ring. However if it wasn't obvious, he is one of my favorites for more than just his talent inside the ring. He is easily one of the nicest wrestlers I have met outside of the ring. All of the PWA wrestlers are incredibly nice people. That is another reason that I like Devine is because he is such a nice person outside of the ring as well as talented inside of the ring. Like I said, I may be the only person who likes Devine as much as I do but that is just the way things are. I am a huge Devine fan and I will probably always be. I was exactly right, he was nice to you so automatically he's the best there is. That's cool he's a nice guy, most indy wrestlers are. But to believe he's anything better then he is in TNA is another issue all together. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 30, 2007 23:35:14 GMT -5
No seriously, in damn near every promo he finished it with "Don't like it? Learn to love it. Why? Because I am positively Devine."
Oh and the Karachi Vice (Raj Singh and Gamma Singh Jr.) were not at the last show (On Saturday) and were replaced by Chucky Blaze and "T-Bone" Jack Sloan...
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Post by GP™ on Jul 31, 2007 10:46:34 GMT -5
"Of course it hurts, you MORONS."
lmao. Please give him a Jericho-type gimmick. Now.
I can only go so long without Jericho in a wrestling ring, and this could be the next best thing.
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