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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 23, 2009 4:01:44 GMT -5
I rarely ever take Dana's side, but he helped Rampage with his troubles with the law. Rampage was going to get jail time and Rampage has said time and time again how ana has helped him massivly. Now he's saying he's helped Dana more. Psssh.
I also think it's funny how he's calling the fans Dumbasses who don't pay his bills. I guess his percentage of PPV buys and ticket sales don't matter to him, right?
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Sept 23, 2009 7:03:30 GMT -5
I also think it's funny how he's calling the fans Dumbasses who don't pay his bills. I guess his percentage of PPV buys and ticket sales don't matter to him, right? Agreed 100%. That part of his speech really didn't sit well with me. You can't earn a living as a fighter unless somebody is willing to pay to watch. That includes the people who love Rampage and the people who hate him. The fans absolutely do pay his bills, and if that's not enough to cover his kid's needs, then he needs to take that up with Dana or find other ways to cut costs. Don't take it out on fans. We pay what UFC asks us to pay. If that's not cutting it, don't blame us. Or maybe, you know... stop blowing money at the clubs, if you're so concerned about your kid's future.
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Post by Gonzo Customs on Sept 23, 2009 10:28:18 GMT -5
I also think it's funny how he's calling the fans Dumbasses who don't pay his bills. I guess his percentage of PPV buys and ticket sales don't matter to him, right? Agreed 100%. That part of his speech really didn't sit well with me. You can't earn a living as a fighter unless somebody is willing to pay to watch. That includes the people who love Rampage and the people who hate him. The fans absolutely do pay his bills, and if that's not enough to cover his kid's needs, then he needs to take that up with Dana or find other ways to cut costs. Don't take it out on fans. We pay what UFC asks us to pay. If that's not cutting it, don't blame us. Or maybe, you know... stop blowing money at the clubs, if you're so concerned about your kid's future. Haha very true.
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Post by PrideFcF on Sept 23, 2009 12:42:35 GMT -5
I hope everything as an actor or a fighter, whatever he wants to do, works out for him. Yeah he makes odd decisions at times, but none of us are on the inside to know if the business aspect is as bad as he describes.
I personally think he'll be back though.
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 23, 2009 17:49:09 GMT -5
If it's what he wants to do, then I can't blame him.
I'm going to miss seeing him in UFC, but I'm sure he'll land on his feet somewhere else.
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Post by Bartman on Sept 23, 2009 20:49:48 GMT -5
Here's Dana's response to this.. “Because I got so pissed off at him pulling out of the fight with Rashad, I’m speaking my mind ��" he thinks I’m trying to ruin his movie career. It’s crazy. Listen, I have nothing bad to say about Rampage, he’s a grown man. If he decides he wants to walk away from guaranteed good money right now, he’s a grown man, he can do whatever he wants to do. What did I do to Rampage? I talked to him as a friend and tried to talk him out of making a bad decision. He doesn’t think it is, he thinks he’s gonna have a movie career but there’s so many fighters I’ve met over the years who thought they were gonna have movie careers. It’s not like he was going after Machida because he wanted the belt ��" he didn’t want the belt! He said the belt causes too many problems and he just wanted to fight and make money and feed his family ��" that’s exactly what he told me. All he’s been telling me since he got into the UFC is that he wants to fight in Memphis in front of his hometown. We make the fight in Memphis and then he pulls out of the fight because he wants to go make this movie because it has so much sentimental value to him. He’s a fighter, that’s what he does for a living. Now I’m going through all this crap where I got another fighter saying ‘You know what, this isn’t what I wanna do for the rest of my life, I wanna make movies, I wanna be a movie star, this is just a second career for me.’ Like I haven’t seen this one before. Rampage is a grown man. He’s acting like a baby right now but he’s a grown man. He wants to be in the movie business? Rampage, good luck to you man. I hope you make it big ��" and I’m not being sarcastic because Rampage Jackson is a guy that I do like. But Rampage Jackson is a guy that doesn’t always make the best decisions.”www.mmanews.com/ufc/Dana-White-Says-Rampage-Is-Grown-Man-Acting-Like-A-Baby.html
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Post by Codesters on Sept 23, 2009 21:30:56 GMT -5
Deep down I feel that Rampage will soon enough work things out with Dana. Especially after the A-Team Movie flops...
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 23, 2009 21:48:17 GMT -5
I love that Rampage tells it like it is --- he fights to "feed his family."
He may love being a celebrity, but what it comes down to is that he wants to make money. I feel like a lot of people overlook that aspect of things. If he thinks he can make money doing something that doesn't involve getting his face punched on a daily basis; why not?
I don't believe he'll be a successful movie star, but if he believes it; I say go for it.
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Post by gravedigger3 on Sept 23, 2009 22:51:04 GMT -5
doesnt he still ahve to fight rashad evans
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Bob Sapp
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 24, 2009 0:16:59 GMT -5
No. He backed out.
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Post by HHH316 on Sept 24, 2009 1:09:07 GMT -5
He'll be back. No doubt in my mind. I'll go as far as saying within 6 months of the end of TUF
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Post by Sandy on Sept 24, 2009 3:34:48 GMT -5
^^^ probably true but by that time who will really care...
I mean I am a die-hard Rampage fan but this one decision has ultimately changed the whole landscape of the LHW scene.
-Lyoto vs. Shogun is the Headlining fight for October(really? A very unimpressive win over a 46 year old and a KO of an out of his prime Iceman earns you that right?) -Forrest just got KO'd by Anderson Silva. -Rashad is now stuck in limbo at LHW as he will probably be unsure if he should just wait for the Rampage fight or take a fight against someone who is ranked below him. -Jardine won't fight Rashad -Tito vs. Coleman at UFC:106
it is just a mess right now.. the top 3 were
Lyoto Rashad Rampage
But if Rampage is gone..who takes his spot? Shogun? Also if Shogun does beat Machida(big if) you have to know that the UFC was just salivating at the opportunity of having Shogun vs. Rampage II.
I'm just hoping Jon Bones Jones moves up those ranks quick, Dan Henderson moves to 205, Randy Couture beats Brandon Vera in a razor thin decision but in a fight that get FOTN so that Randy can then challenge Lyoto and Brandon Vera can challenge someone who is at least a top 10 LHW.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 24, 2009 4:40:01 GMT -5
That's not even fair. Liddell isn't even 40 yet.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Sept 24, 2009 7:08:35 GMT -5
Regarding whether Rampage will ever come back, I think it's inevitable. He's too big a name, and he hasn't done anything (yet) that would cause Dana White to permanently blacklist him. If your name can sell tickets, Dana White will put you on a show.
If Tito Ortiz was welcomed back, Rampage will be too, if he chooses to come back. And I think Rampage knows that in the back of his mind. This whole A-Team/"I'm done fighting" thing is a low-risk move on Rampage's part. If the movie is a smash, he'll have acting. If it's not, he'll most definitely be able to come back to fighting in the UFC.
Unless he gets in his truck and goes on another wild police chase, he's golden either way. Speaking of which, wasn't his sentencing for that delayed until this upcoming January? He still hasn't found out his punishment, right?
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 24, 2009 9:25:25 GMT -5
Yes, January 7th is his sentencing.
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Post by Sandy on Sept 24, 2009 14:45:42 GMT -5
Rampage posted a new blog on his site..but you have to be a member to read it...and I don't feel like joining a new forum..sooo is anyone a member to Rampage-Jackson.com? The title of the blog is "Who's the baby?"
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Post by Bob Sapp on Sept 24, 2009 14:52:10 GMT -5
"Make no mistake the UFC treated me a lot better than Pride. If you get hurt in training in a UFC fight then will send you to the best doctors. If you get hurt in a Pride fight most of the time they will tell me "oh you better take care of that!" The UFC will always let you know in a timely matter who you will be fighting & give you enough time to train but with Pride if I knew 4 weeks ahead I would be happy cause most times they just give you a 2 weeks notice. Pride will rip you off on your merchandising but the UFC would find someway to hook you up on merchandising deals. Pride will make fights easier for certain fighters inside the ring (like standing up fights early). With the UFC whatever happens happens. The only thing I see the UFC needs to fix in this area is to get better judges. Ones who know about MMA & not from the boxing world. The reason why I'm talking about all this is that I feel like this whole situation could have been avoided if UFC would have respected me more & rescheduled the fight about a month or more in my hometown, which I know fights can be rescheduled because of the Matt Hughes & Matt Serra was postponed due to injuries. Instead, Dana went on the internet & started talking bad about my decision. All we had to do was come to a certain type of argreement or understanding, which later came after a lot of trash talk from Dana. My manager flew to Vegas & talked to them & tried to work things out like a MAN. & still I keep quite & I didn't talk trash back on the internet. The only reason why I'm even talking now is because I feel like I owe my fans an explanation because I am a MAN, a real MAN. Yeah I made good money with the UFC more than Pride, but I made both shows more money than they made me. I didn't care too much about Pride treating me like crap cause I was an American in a Japanese company. Now in my own country, I feel like I'm being disrepected. Everything is not about how much money you make. You could be the richest man in the world but if nobody repsects you then it don't mean shit. You can't buy respect. It should be earned. & thats what I'm all about.
Now Rashad wanna put his two cents in. Rashad remains to be a boy under me. He wins a few fights, and some of them I thought the judges fell asleep during the fight & woke up & saw him playing with his nipples & guessed he won. He knocked Chuck Liddel out when Chuck wasn't even the same man anymore. & now he thinks he's on my level. Yeah he talks about how he beat Forrest & I lost. But when I fought Forrest that was the worst Rampage I had ever seen. & I still know in my heart I won that fight. So now he's Mr. All Cocky & says I got a big mouth & talk a lot of smack. If my memory serves me correctly, he's the one that got into my face after the Jardine fight & started talking trash when he was the one that was originally supposed to fight me that night, but he told Dana on the phone he didn't want to fight. He wanted to keep his belt longer. Now, I'm not saying wether or not I would have beaten Machida, but I wouldn't have went out like a bitch like the way he did. So I'm the one that was looking forward to the Rashad fight the most. I have always been a fighter my whole life. As a kid my family treated me like crapwhich made me the person who I am today. This is why when I meet people I treat people the way I want to be treated (unless they approach me wrong or piss me off). I grew up thinking that I wasn't even important to my family which made me not even care about myself. That's why I can get knee-ed in the face 15 times & come back for more. That's why I can get my legs seriously hurt in a fight & still try to win. Thats why I can get my ribs broken in a fight & not tap out because my whole life I never thought I mattered to anybody or anybody cared about me. But now I have kids that love me & care about me & I'm not used to people caring about me but it feels good! I'm a very loyal person. Wolves are the most loyal animals on the planet. I was very loyal to the UFC, but now I owe all my loyalty to my kids... the ones who really care for me. The majority of my fights on the street I fought for free & they all were with emotion. I am a fighter, I will always be a fighter but my professional fights that were fought with emotion, I ended them all in devestating fashion. I am the wrong fighter that should fight pissed off professionally. I don't even consider it fair. So Rashad says he will fight me for free. I will gladly meet him at any gym & fight him just to shut his mouth up. & I mean that for real!
When I told Dana I did not want my belt back & that I just wanted to make money, it was around the time when they gave me Vanderlei & actually it was around the same time when my mind wasn't right (my mind was at TRUCK status) & that's the way I felt because I felt I had been robbed out of my belt. After the Jardine fight I did want my belt back because my family was so proud of me when I was champion & I want to make my family proud cause now I finally feel like my family cares about me & they accept me & this is what I've been wanting my whole childhood... for my family to like me. If I got to beat some ass for my family to like me, so be it. But now, I'm a grown man & I'll be damned if anybody disrespects me. I'm not having it, it's not happening!" -Posted by Rampage Jackson on September 24, 2009 at 12:18pm
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Post by Sandy on Sept 24, 2009 15:12:28 GMT -5
thanks Mr. Sapp.
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Post by otto on Sept 24, 2009 21:32:53 GMT -5
my reaction can only be described in his own.. "words"... ...
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Post by K Dot on Sept 27, 2009 0:42:58 GMT -5
dana white is a ******bag everyone knows that.
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