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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 4, 2009 20:00:15 GMT -5
I am preying for this. He is my alltime favorite fighter and he has the potential to do it he just needs to get more well rounded and train his ass off. If he is 100% then he has a great chance...
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Post by Bob Sapp on Oct 4, 2009 20:21:26 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I think Coleman will give him a good fight since he hasn't fought in over a year.
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 4, 2009 20:23:20 GMT -5
Its possible since his rust form his time off that Coleman will give him a good fight. But thats for anyone with a year off... I think Tito could do it again if he does the right things. Its not fair to say ABSOLUTELY NOT. I know its unlikely but its not impossible. He still has a great run left IMO even if he doesent win a title...
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Post by pantallica88 on Oct 4, 2009 23:07:08 GMT -5
Tito Ortiz has the ability and talent but I think there is too much talent for Ortiz to handle. He couldnt beat Rashad or Machida. But he looks to be training hard so lets see how it turns out.
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Post by threehgame on Oct 4, 2009 23:26:03 GMT -5
Tito may be able to take down Coleman, Bonnar and maybe even Chuck but he isn't on Lyoto's level.
Tito vs. Jon Jones is what I want to see, it would be a good fight to find out how much talent Jones has and how muck skill he has, just like Tito did with Forest.
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 4, 2009 23:26:06 GMT -5
Tito is the closest anyone has come to beating machida and he would have beaten rashad via decision if he had not got a point deducted when he grabbed the fence so in esscense he has beaten Rashad...
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Post by Bob Sapp on Oct 5, 2009 0:04:14 GMT -5
I hate that argument "He came the closest to beating Machida" just from ONE Triangle choke which he LET GO of. Tito was beaten up all 3 rounds of that fight.
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Post by NYdream™ on Oct 5, 2009 0:13:09 GMT -5
Ok thats fair to say. But he DID beat Evans if it werent for the point deduction...
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Post by Bob Sapp on Oct 5, 2009 0:16:34 GMT -5
We'll never know that for sure because he stuffed like 4 takedowns due to grabbing the fence, which he should have known that is a foul.
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Post by Sandy on Oct 5, 2009 0:38:50 GMT -5
I hate that argument "He came the closest to beating Machida" just from ONE Triangle choke which he LET GO of. Tito was beaten up all 3 rounds of that fight. why do you hate that arguement when you use practically the same one describing how Roy Nelson was "controlling" Arlovski on the ground? You can't pick and choose when it is acceptable or not...either it isn't or it isn't. Now. Ortiz was absolutely the closest to beating Machida. To say he was getting "beat up" all three rounds is ridiculous. The only round Machida really did damage was the third....right after he hurt Tito though, Tito applied the triangle choke and like a dumbass let go and transitioned to an armbar. I am a huge Ortiz fan. I think people don't give him nearly enough credit...they say he doesn't finish fights...well who has finished him? Who has KO'd him or even subbed him in recent years? Nobody but Chuck. But with that being said I think he has a very tough fight ahead against Coleman. Tito hasn't been in the octagon in over a year...I don't care how good you are it DOES affect your performance. I'm hoping Tito can pull out a dominant win though. |
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Post by pantallica88 on Oct 5, 2009 1:11:21 GMT -5
We can argue that Ortiz beat Rashad but at the end like someone already put it, we'll never know because he kept grabbing onto the cage. I thought tito should of lost the match to Griffin. Tito is a great competitor but all of that talent he faced has just gotten better so we'll have to see.
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Post by Bob Sapp on Oct 5, 2009 1:12:48 GMT -5
I hate that argument "He came the closest to beating Machida" just from ONE Triangle choke which he LET GO of. Tito was beaten up all 3 rounds of that fight. why do you hate that arguement when you use practically the same one describing how Roy Nelson was "controlling" Arlovski on the ground? You can't pick and choose when it is acceptable or not...either it isn't or it isn't. I never said Nelson was "Controlling" Arlovski on the ground. I just said I thought it was  ed up that it was stood up while Nelson was working a kimura. |
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Post by lancewiget on Oct 5, 2009 7:14:36 GMT -5
Coleman may be better than the win over Bonnar but we're gonna see the same old f*cking Coleman who gets gassed after 45 seconds.
Ortiz is gonna win. I guarantee it.
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