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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 9:42:42 GMT -5
@ people who say eminems raps are mostly jokes go  ing die. yes i mean it, stop talking about stuff you have no ing clue about. Most of the people who choose crapon WF are dickriders and they follow whatever the the rest follows. I could say that 50 is great mc ( because he actually is ) but of course i would be buried 50 feet under the internet ground by all of you dickriders. You cant judge Em's music by just hearing the first single of an album Lemme explain a SINGLE for you people who have no clue what the you are talking about A single is a song to grab your attention and face it to the artist. Its supposed to be catchy and new. Em wont go around killing people all day in singles because then he would not get airplay. Less radio play means less money. The man has to feed his family too And if you ing listen to his music you would know that he does not consist of dissing famous people and jokes and for the 50 subject - i really do mean it. 50 Cent a great ing MC and lyrricist |
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Post by Lemmy on Oct 21, 2009 10:35:21 GMT -5
The fact that a lot of people mentioned him when asked and the fact he's widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best rapper of all time surely means Eminem is a great lyricist. People who don't agree that he's the best can't deny that he's top quality at what he does. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have achieved what he has. I think Relapse really brought out his talent after what he went through with rehab etc.
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Post by HardyHeft on Oct 21, 2009 11:48:47 GMT -5
Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Oct 21, 2009 12:13:09 GMT -5
I just don't see why everyone dislikes Canibus? Is it because of his sophisticated lyrics? I mean the man does have his PHD so I could understand he is different lyrically from others I just wanna know why he's getting bashed is all.
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Post by extreme on Oct 21, 2009 13:56:44 GMT -5
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Post by Cody McCormick on Oct 21, 2009 15:14:29 GMT -5
Big L
amazing flow and rhymes but had his life cut short. if he was alive he would be #1 no doubt
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 21, 2009 15:23:54 GMT -5
Eminem aint got nothing on VANILLA ICE!
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Oct 21, 2009 16:06:22 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong but, wasn't Second Round K.O. meant to diss LL and not Eminem? |
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Post by Sandy on Oct 21, 2009 16:32:19 GMT -5
^^^
yes...
..and LL returned the diss with "Return of the Ripper" or some sh** like that..
Canibus definitely won..
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Oct 21, 2009 16:56:47 GMT -5
^^^ yes... ..and LL returned the diss with "Return of the Ripper" or some sh** like that.. Canibus definitely won.. Seemed like during that fued that LL was just rehashing Canibus' lines after he hit him with the diss track. |
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Post by Sandy on Oct 21, 2009 17:13:45 GMT -5
yeah...but everyone thought LL won just because of one line in the song
"Ask Canibus, he ain't understanding this
Cause 99 percent of his fans don't exist."
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Post by sonstuds on Oct 21, 2009 17:15:35 GMT -5
yeah...but everyone thought LL won just because of one line in the song "Ask Canibus, he ain't understanding this Cause 99 percent of his fans don't exist." Ahaha, well it is the best line either of them put out. |
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Oct 21, 2009 17:23:52 GMT -5
yeah...but everyone thought LL won just because of one line in the song "Ask Canibus, he ain't understanding this Cause 99 percent of his fans don't exist." I think Canibus would've been in the game longer if LL didn't supposively "bury him" like people thought. He's supposively trying to release 3 albums before he retires. Maybe its just me but I feel that people often overlook Canibus due to his intellectual lyrics. Unlike most, he doesn't talk about how much money he has or the amount of bling he has etc. I agree with his lines: "From an extroverted point of view its to late, Hip hop hasn't been the same since '88, Since it became a lucrative profession theres a misconception, that a movement in any direction is progression" --I'm just saying, I know people are probably wanting to bash me but listen to songs like "Poet Laureate II, 2000 B.C." His stuff after he left Wyclef was much better IMO. "Lyrically" he's one of the best. |
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 21, 2009 22:03:27 GMT -5
Let's go ahead and break this down.
Best selling music artist - No Hip Hop/Rap for 200 million to 299 million records OR 100 million to 199 million records. But at 75 million to 99 million records, Eminem & Tupac show up. That's enough to prove they are two of the best Rapping Artist of all time.
So we now have the two best Rapping Artist, Eminem & Tupac. So that's 1 for Tupac & 1 for Eminem. Let's break them down.
Tupac rapped about - growing up amid violence and hardship in ghettos, racism, problems in society and conflicts with other rappers.
Eminem rapped about - growing up with bad parents, hardship life, problems in society and conflicts about the world.
Seems about the same, so 2-2, but let's break it down even more.
Tupac started rapping around age 19-20 in the 1990's, where he debuted his skills for Digital Underground's "Same Song".
Eminem started around age 14-15, joining a group called Bassmint Productions, releasing their first EP called "Steppin' Onto The Scene".
3 for Eminem, 2 for Tupac.
Both men have had tons of great music, so that just deserves them both to get a point, so.. 4 - Eminem. 3 - Tupac.
But seeing how one man is still alive & the other is gone would just show Eminem is the best, I mean this goes back to like Elvis & Michael Jackson. Both men are kings of music, Elvis being the King of Rock N Roll, Michael Jackson being the King Of Pop. But one of them has to overcome the other. Elvis was born first and passed away first, MJ came along and lived longer than Elvis did, meaning they both could be alive today, but aren't so MJ has lived longer than Elvis.
But what I am trying to get too is Michael Jackson has had the chance to produce more music, so MJ would be bigger than Elvis, he has had more chanecs to reach out to the public today than Elvis can. So this is the same for Eminem & Tupac. Eminem is the best rapping artist because he outlived Tupac, he has had the chance to produce more music & reach out to the public for 10-15 years longer than Tupac. Even though Tupac produced great music and everything, Eminem would just come out on top. Now if Eminem was too pass away, even though he would still be listed with Tupac in the 75 Million mark, and might still be considered the best rapping artist. Jay-Z is in 3rd place of Best Selling Hip Hop artist, so he'd eventually become the best rapping artist.
I think this should sum all this up
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Post by chumped on Oct 21, 2009 22:39:47 GMT -5
Nothing you said has any relevance as to who is the best lyricist.
Numbers do not equate best.
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 21, 2009 23:12:15 GMT -5
Nothing you said has any relevance as to who is the best lyricist. Numbers do not equate best. Eminem wins. Lol, it's just plain simple. Eminem can freestyle anything at anything, look at what I said, He has been freestyling since 14-15. |
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Post by Double J on Oct 21, 2009 23:19:28 GMT -5
Chop Chop Master Onion.
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Post by carly1988 on Oct 22, 2009 4:38:42 GMT -5
I dont like rap music anymore but I have to go with Pac
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Post by Word™ on Oct 23, 2009 1:01:27 GMT -5
You are right, no one can have an opinion because it is a 100% true fact that Tupac is the greatest rap lyricist ever. Go jerk off to some Carlito matches. Go jerk off to some.. Mx5 matches?  I mean.. I'm not on Tupac's nuts to an extreme.. But he is the only "rapper" I know of that attended Juilliard, if I'm not mistaken.. I'm just sayin.. |
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Post by mrwest on Oct 23, 2009 1:59:49 GMT -5
You are right, no one can have an opinion because it is a 100% true fact that Tupac is the greatest rap lyricist ever. Go jerk off to some Carlito matches. Go jerk off to some.. Mx5 matches? I mean.. I'm not on Tupac's nuts to an extreme.. But he is the only "rapper" I know of that attended Juilliard, if I'm not mistaken.. I'm just sayin.. Basically everyone consider (and same go's for me) Tupac & Biggie Smalls Lords of hip-hop/rap I mean they are two of the mostly deadliest Lyricists off all time they both broke records and since they even began was already consider Hip-hop royalties. |
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