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Post by Word™ on Oct 23, 2009 2:25:04 GMT -5
Go jerk off to some.. Mx5 matches? I mean.. I'm not on Tupac's nuts to an extreme.. But he is the only "rapper" I know of that attended Juilliard, if I'm not mistaken.. I'm just sayin.. Basically everyone consider (and same go's for me) Tupac & Biggie Smalls Lords of hip-hop/rap I mean they are two of the mostly deadliest Lyricists off all time they both broke records and since they even began was already consider Hip-hop royalties. Oh no ing doubt my dude.. But I'm also saying Tupac was an educated performer.. He wasn't a joke like a majority of rappers out there today.. Coming straight off the streets and living the thug life; Tupac only created a persona.. And IMO.. As much as I respect Pac and what he did.. I mean.. I still listen to his albums today.. But IMO.. Biggie was better.. Biggie had nothing and created something.. 2Pac had alot and created even more.. And It's a crying shame they died.. Because both of them alive today would have made some of the best music in the last 15 years outside of what they already released.. And another IMO statement.. Tupac... As smart as he really was.. Could still be alive.. And if he is still alive.. As smart as he was.. We will never know because he wanted it that way.. In my opinion of course..
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Oct 23, 2009 9:35:08 GMT -5
Tupac is the greatest, Canibus does not suck, NYdream™ you're an idiot, and this question is being asked on a predominantly white board, so ofcourse we're going to have the sheep say "Eminem". That's like asking a white crowd, "Who invented Rock n roll?" They will all say, "Elvis", even though it's not true. Tupac is the deepest and most spiritual poet ever imo. the irony of this post is that 2pac was a mediocre lyricist. anyway, inspectah deck gets my vote.
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 23, 2009 9:37:39 GMT -5
Yeah I think most of the people posting here forgets that we are talking about Lyricist. Tupac & Biggie might be the Kings of Hip Hop, but they had terrible lyrics, some were okay, but Eminem or basically the entire Wu-Tang Clan group would get my vote for best rapping lyricist.
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Oct 23, 2009 9:38:56 GMT -5
Nothing you said has any relevance as to who is the best lyricist. Numbers do not equate best. Eminem wins. Lol, it's just plain simple. Eminem can freestyle anything at anything, look at what I said, He has been freestyling since 14-15. you have got to be kidding me. /shakes head and walks away. oh, and biggies lyrics were far from terrible.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Oct 23, 2009 12:48:19 GMT -5
I think Slug would concede that Eyedea is the best Rhymesayer... But Slug is glory, too. They're both amazing, but from a lyrical standpoint I'd probably go with slug. Though Eyedea is a better freestyler. Anyway, I didn't read the whole post, so I don't know how many of these people have been mentioned or not. But here are my favorites. Scroobius Pip- If you haven't heard him, check him out. Slick Rick- Children's story alone makes him worthy, but he was fanastic all around. Grand Master Flash- As you can probably tell, I'm mostly a fan of the old style message hip hop. He was a pioneer and should be mentioned. Run DMC- A lot of things they wrote were kind of silly, but the lyrics were consistantly great, and the message songs they wrote are some of the best raps ever. Ice T- Though he did become more of a character later on, when he did "Colors" he was at the top of his game. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone though.
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Post by ygb on Oct 23, 2009 12:54:13 GMT -5
Entertainment board but for me Eminem. Eminem, Jay-Z, Drake, Wayne
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Oct 23, 2009 15:14:15 GMT -5
Did someone actually just call Biggies lyrics terrible? Those sound like fighting words to me.
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 23, 2009 16:10:05 GMT -5
Okay really.. Look at how many songs are popular by Tupac & Biggie. Not that many, unless you are a fan of the man. Then look at how many are popular by Eminem.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Oct 23, 2009 18:34:12 GMT -5
I agree with oskanowski I think people are forgetting here that we are talking about "lyrics" not how many hit singles someone has had etc.
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Post by Word™ on Oct 23, 2009 19:09:41 GMT -5
Okay really.. Look at how many songs are popular by Tupac & Biggie. Not that many, unless you are a fan of the man. Then look at how many are popular by Eminem. The same can be said about Eminem tho can it not.. Look at how many songs are popular by Eminem? Or how many songs are popular to Eminem's fans.. You can't compare popularity of the three in 2009.. Not when over a decade seperates them.. Especially since one artist is still alive, putting out tracks.. While the other two have been dead since 96 and 97.. But if you want to compare.. Tupac and Biggie's popularity in the mid 90's can crush Eminem's popularity when he first showed up.. And to be honest.. I hear Hypnotize and Big Poppa on the radio to this day way more than anything off of Em's first albums.. Also, I was very unaware Tupac & Biggie was one man.. Eminem is no doubt one of the greats.. And an amazing lyricist.. But to say he is leaps above Tupac and Biggie.. Especially since they never crossed paths, is pure ignorance.. Or stupidity.. Anyone born in the 90's should not have a say in music from the 90's anyways.. I had a 16 year old the other day tell me The Fugees were terrible.. Soo.. Yeah I think most of the people posting here forgets that we are talking about Lyricist. Tupac & Biggie might be the Kings of Hip Hop, but they had terrible lyrics, some were okay, but Eminem or basically the entire Wu-Tang Clan group would get my vote for best rapping lyricist.
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 23, 2009 23:48:09 GMT -5
Okay really.. Look at how many songs are popular by Tupac & Biggie. Not that many, unless you are a fan of the man. Then look at how many are popular by Eminem. The same can be said about Eminem tho can it not.. Look at how many songs are popular by Eminem? Or how many songs are popular to Eminem's fans.. You can't compare popularity of the three in 2009..
Not when over a decade seperates them.. Especially since one artist is still alive, putting out tracks.. While the other two have been dead since 96 and 97..What does being dead have to do with who is the better lyricists? You can still decide who is the better lyricists because we still have the music from the men, and from common sense & by how popular the songs are, you can tell who is better. It's Eminem. See just because Eminem is alive don't instantly make him the winner, Tupac & Biggie can still be bringing in money just like Elvis & Michael Jackson are doing. But Tupac & Biggie Smalls songs weren't as popular as Eminem's. Just because it's 2009 doesn't mean anything, Tupac & Biggie are very well known, but not all the music they produced was. They had the one hit wonders just like everyone else, and still they have a few songs that are great.. But you won't know any of them unless your a fan of the music or unless you look it all up. Eminem on the other hand, got noticed right off the bat for being a white rapper, He has great lyrics and freestyle skills are amazing. I'm not saying Biggie Smalls & Tupac didn't have great freestyle skills too, i'm just saying the lyrics they have arn't all as good as Eminems are. But if you want to compare.. Tupac and Biggie's popularity in the mid 90's can crush Eminem's popularity when he first showed up..Well, seeing how Biggie & Tupac died in 1996-1997, of course that would be the mid 90's, and seeing how Eminem didn't have an album until by 1998-1999.... And to be honest.. I hear Hypnotize and Big Poppa on the radio to this day way more than anything off of Em's first albums.. Also, I was very unaware Tupac & Biggie was one man..Smart people understand.. Eminem is no doubt one of the greats.. And an amazing lyricist.. But to say he is leaps above Tupac and Biggie.. Especially since they never crossed paths, is pure ignorance.. Or stupidity.. Well, seeing how Eminem & Tupac has sold more than Biggie has, and seeing how Eminem is still making great music and producing the lyricists were talking about, it'd be common sense to say Eminem, He's already known as one of the greatest hip hop producers, then comparing him to someone dead who isn't making anymore lyricists, just really isn't making much sense. Anyone born in the 90's should not have a say in music from the 90's anyways.. I had a 16 year old the other day tell me The Fugees were terrible.. Soo.. Yeah I think most of the people posting here forgets that we are talking about Lyricist. Tupac & Biggie might be the Kings of Hip Hop, but they had terrible lyrics, some were okay, but Eminem or basically the entire Wu-Tang Clan group would get my vote for best rapping lyricist.
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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Oct 24, 2009 7:36:09 GMT -5
Yeah I think most of the people posting here forgets that we are talking about Lyricist. Tupac & Biggie might be the Kings of Hip Hop, but they had terrible lyrics, some were okay, but Eminem or basically the entire Wu-Tang Clan group would get my vote for best rapping lyricist. Oh good god
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Post by Oskanowski on Oct 24, 2009 11:06:05 GMT -5
Yeah I think most of the people posting here forgets that we are talking about Lyricist. Tupac & Biggie might be the Kings of Hip Hop, but they had terrible lyrics, some were okay, but Eminem or basically the entire Wu-Tang Clan group would get my vote for best rapping lyricist. Oh good god It's true. They are mostly the kings of hip hop for battling it out between each other, leading to both of their deaths. Just because they are kings of the hip hop don't mean they had the best lyricist in the world. It just means they created a lot of controversy & sold more than anyone else.
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Post by ThrowinUpTheX on Oct 30, 2009 4:57:33 GMT -5
Biggie Smalls for me, he was gifted lke no other.
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Post by bencw on Oct 30, 2009 5:29:07 GMT -5
zach de la rocha is the greatest imo
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Post by †hê Jå§ðñ Wïllïåm§ on Oct 30, 2009 16:58:16 GMT -5
Nas, Tupac, Eminem (when he's doing non funny songs)
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Post by R.A. The Rugged Man on Oct 31, 2009 21:08:16 GMT -5
Immortal Technique
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Post by The Dude on Nov 1, 2009 1:00:52 GMT -5
Tupac is the greatest, Canibus does not suck, NYdream™ you're an idiot, and this question is being asked on a predominantly white board, so ofcourse we're going to have the sheep say "Eminem". That's like asking a white crowd, "Who invented Rock n roll?" They will all say, "Elvis", even though it's not true. Tupac is the deepest and most spiritual poet ever imo. Thank You. When it comes down to getting a story across, 2Pac is the man bar none. Every single album was good, I can listen to his music ovefr and over and not ever get tired of it. I don't understand why people love Eminem so much. I mean I used to like him, then I turned 13! LOL, but seriously his first 2 albums were ok, but then he changed his style. He somehow thinks that he is the sh*t, but he's not. His music is garbage, I know kids in high school that could put out better music than him.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Nov 1, 2009 1:26:45 GMT -5
Surprised Common hasn't been mentioned yet.
Yeah my top 5 are:
1) Eminem 2) Tupac 3) Jay-Z 4) Biggie 5) Andre 3000
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Post by Oskanowski on Nov 1, 2009 16:59:17 GMT -5
Tupac is the greatest, Canibus does not suck, NYdream™ you're an idiot, and this question is being asked on a predominantly white board, so ofcourse we're going to have the sheep say "Eminem". That's like asking a white crowd, "Who invented Rock n roll?" They will all say, "Elvis", even though it's not true. Tupac is the deepest and most spiritual poet ever imo. Thank You. When it comes down to getting a story across, 2Pac is the man bar none. Every single album was good, I can listen to his music ovefr and over and not ever get tired of it. I don't understand why people love Eminem so much. I mean I used to like him, then I turned 13! LOL, but seriously his first 2 albums were ok, but then he changed his style. He somehow thinks that he is the sh*t, but he's not. His music is garbage, I know kids in high school that could put out better music than him. How many facepalms should I put here? Naw I don't think this even deserves to get a facepalm that's how bad this is. The only albums that is " actually good " from Tupac would be ( 2Pacalypse Now & Me Against The World ). Tupac isn't famous for his lyrics or his music. Neither was Biggie, they were famous, simply for controversy. The fighting they did, and all the stupidity that went on. I can sit here and not remember one single chorus from any of Tupac's music. Eminem caused controversary maybe in year 1999 when he first got started, becoming the first actual white rapper that made it huge. I know a lot of eminem's lyrics and they were all good, Eminem never has changed his style, that's why he's still the number one rap/hip hop artist ever. He can say he's better all he wants because he simply is, Lil Wayne & Soulja Boy was all we had to listen to for a good 2 or 3 years, then Eminem started releasing his new album and we finally had a classic feel in the Rap/Hip Hop category for those classic listeners.
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