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Post by user9327 on Jun 17, 2010 21:12:23 GMT -5
Pau Gasol huge again with 10 rebounds at half. Kobe with 7 rebounds.
They'll shoot better but Boston looks tough tonight. If it's close in the 4th I like LA.
Anybody see Kobe hit the top of the backboard on his baseline fadeaway out of triple coverage? In fairness, he did pass the ball the next time he was in that position to an open Gasol and he passed to Artest for an open shot that he missed.
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Post by user9327 on Jun 17, 2010 21:21:41 GMT -5
Philly has been trying to get rid of Dalembert for quite some time, they probably could have gotten better than Noc' and Hawes. What's strange is that they waited until Delambert was actually an enormous asset (as an expiring contract) and traded him for a guy with no potential in Hawes and Nocioni, who is owed like $23M over the next few years and doesn't fit any of Philly's needs. You do realize Spencer Hawes has showed some potential this year right? You don't remember the big 30 point game he had against the Lakers in LA? He just was a part of that Kings cluster f*ck rotation. 10 points per game, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a block? As opposed to Dalembert's 8 points per game, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks. no potential? I dunno about that much... do you suggest they just let somebody else overpay Dalembert and LOSE that production all together? |
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Post by spreedom8 on Jun 17, 2010 21:25:52 GMT -5
They made what you would call at best a lateral move and are ending up paying an extra $15M to a player that won't do anything for them. But hey, I guess it's their capspace to blow, not mine.
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Post by user9327 on Jun 17, 2010 21:30:48 GMT -5
They made what you would call at best a lateral move and are ending up paying an extra $15M to a player that won't do anything for them. But hey, I guess it's their capspace to blow, not mine. They already have Elton Brand on the books and obviously aren't looking to get under the cap any time soon with the roster they have... But overpay for Dalembert, a guy who got going after his country had an Earthquake (not joking, it's true, even if terrible).... I dunno. Apparently their intentions go further than today and into draft day, with this move. We'll have to see, but to say Hawes has no potential... I just don't agree... even if he's white. |
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Jun 17, 2010 21:33:15 GMT -5
*waiting for Kobe to turn it up to 11*
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Post by BV on Jun 17, 2010 21:33:38 GMT -5
They made what you would call at best a lateral move and are ending up paying an extra $15M to a player that won't do anything for them. But hey, I guess it's their capspace to blow, not mine. They already have Elton Brand on the books and obviously aren't looking to get under the cap any time soon with the roster they have... But overpay for Dalembert, a guy who got going after his country had an Earthquake (not joking, it's true, even if terrible).... I dunno. Apparently their intentions go further than today and into draft day, with this move. We'll have to see, but to say Hawes has no potential... I just don't agree... even if he's white. Damn shame about Brand being such a bad piece of the 76ers team now. Before he left the Clippers he was maybe a top 5 PF, leaves for the money and hasn't done **** since. Anyone heard the rumors about Pacers trading the 10th pick for a PG? They were interested in Ty Lawson and Darren Collison. If I were the Hornets I would pass, unless you can package the picks and get a top 5 pick. |
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Post by spreedom8 on Jun 17, 2010 21:38:14 GMT -5
If you let Delambert expire, you have cap space next season. If you trade for Hawes (who you'll have to extend) and Nocioni, you have no cap space... I agree that there's probably another deal waiting in the wings (#2/Brand for #4/#23/Jefferson perhaps?) and if they can indeed move a huge contract, this was probably an okay start... but I think this deal is a dud unless it's a precursor to something big.
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Post by spreedom8 on Jun 17, 2010 21:40:29 GMT -5
Anyone heard the rumors about Pacers trading the 10th pick for a PG? They were interested in Ty Lawson and Darren Collison. If I were the Hornets I would pass, unless you can package the picks and get a top 5 pick. I've heard that the Ps are floating a package that involves the #10 and an expiring deal (they have a few huge ones, with Foster/Murphy/Dunleavy/Ford) for a young PG and possibly a less desirable contract. I'd guess something to NOH that involves Collison and Peja or Posey wouldn't be completely out of the question, but the Ps would likely have to include a younger player like Brandon Rush as well. |
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Post by user9327 on Jun 17, 2010 21:40:40 GMT -5
Really? They have cap space with Elton Brand's and Iguodala on the books? I'm honestly asking if this is true or if it's you mistaking?
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Post by user9327 on Jun 17, 2010 21:42:14 GMT -5
The last two shots Kobe took were absolutely atrocious. I'm sorry if I'm supposed to be shutting up.
But what is he shooting? He better rip off 10 in a row to make up for it and get them back to where they SHOULD be.
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Post by BV on Jun 17, 2010 21:43:06 GMT -5
If you let Delambert expire, you have cap space next season. If you trade for Hawes (who you'll have to extend) and Nocioni, you have no cap space... I agree that there's probably another deal waiting in the wings (#2/Brand for #4/#23/Jefferson perhaps?) and if they can indeed move a huge contract, this was probably an okay start... but I think this deal is a dud unless it's a precursor to something big. Would they T'Wolves really give up two first rounders plus their best player for Brand and the 2nd pick? I mean, you're obviously taking Evan Turner there, but you're investing so much into your backcourt (Rubio, Flynn, Sessions and now Turner) that's abit much. |
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Post by BV on Jun 17, 2010 21:44:36 GMT -5
The last two shots Kobe took were absolutely atrocious. I'm sorry if I'm supposed to be shutting up. But what is he shooting? He better rip off 10 in a row to make up for it and get them back to where they SHOULD be. Yeah, there is no hiding it. Kobe is playing terrible, but give it up to the Celtics, they're playing unreal defense on him. |
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Post by spreedom8 on Jun 17, 2010 21:45:54 GMT -5
Really? They have cap space with Elton Brand's and Iguodala on the books? I'm honestly asking if this is true or if it's you mistaking? Assuming they don't pick up any options next season, they'd be at about $55M, which is a hair below the cap... that would be IF they let Delambert walk. With Noc on the books, and assuming Hawes signs for at least $3-4M, they're looking at about $66M. |
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Post by BV on Jun 17, 2010 21:45:43 GMT -5
Anyone heard the rumors about Pacers trading the 10th pick for a PG? They were interested in Ty Lawson and Darren Collison. If I were the Hornets I would pass, unless you can package the picks and get a top 5 pick. I've heard that the Ps are floating a package that involves the #10 and an expiring deal (they have a few huge ones, with Foster/Murphy/Dunleavy/Ford) for a young PG and possibly a less desirable contract. I'd guess something to NOH that involves Collison and Peja or Posey wouldn't be completely out of the question, but the Ps would likely have to include a younger player like Brandon Rush as well. That doesn't sound too bad. Hornets need to rid themselves of the horrible contracts on their team, plus you're getting a pick and a young player with loads of potential like Rush. Plus two picks in a row is pretty nice. |
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Post by spreedom8 on Jun 17, 2010 21:48:33 GMT -5
Would they T'Wolves really give up two first rounders plus their best player for Brand and the 2nd pick? I mean, you're obviously taking Evan Turner there, but you're investing so much into your backcourt (Rubio, Flynn, Sessions and now Turner) that's abit much. I think they would... Jefferson is a terrible fit next to Kevin Love, who is probably going to be a better overall player at this time next year. They'd still have #16 left too. |
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Post by user9327 on Jun 17, 2010 21:50:44 GMT -5
Yea, not worth it if you ask me. I dunno, we gotta see what happens with the picks.
I doubt they are trading Brand for a pick AND a guy like Jefferson. But they might be able to move him. I just doubt it'll help them that much, especially in the immediate future.
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Post by BV on Jun 17, 2010 21:52:02 GMT -5
Would they T'Wolves really give up two first rounders plus their best player for Brand and the 2nd pick? I mean, you're obviously taking Evan Turner there, but you're investing so much into your backcourt (Rubio, Flynn, Sessions and now Turner) that's abit much. I think they would... Jefferson is a terrible fit next to Kevin Love, who is probably going to be a better overall player at this time next year. They'd still have #16 left too. Overall the T'Wolves have made horrid trades. They could of had Mayo and Al Jefferson, or even Roy and Al Jefferson. To me, when healthy, Jefferson is maybe the best post player in the league, and should be on a successful (or atleast decent) team ( Hornets) where he can show his stuff and finally be an all star. |
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Post by spreedom8 on Jun 17, 2010 21:52:08 GMT -5
And I agree... Kobe's been inexcusably bad. I think he feels incredible pressure right now.
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 17, 2010 21:54:38 GMT -5
Ugly, ugly, ugly game.
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Post by BV on Jun 17, 2010 21:55:28 GMT -5
Yeah you're not lying, 56 to 51 with 2 and a half mins left in the 3rd? Eww. Kobe is 5/20......wow. |
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