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Post by Quanthor on Jan 20, 2010 3:49:45 GMT -5
I agree on KG. His best days are way behind him but on that Boston team I don't think he has to be 2003 KG to be effective on the Celtics. Boston shares and moves the ball probably better than any team in the league and that helps with their athletic shortcomings because they're not having work so hard to get baskets. It's a total team effort on both sides of the ball.
I do find their deffeciencies to be very glaring though. As Knickmasta Pat up there mentioned, taking it straight to KG would be an excellent strategy. Really, because they are the least athletic team in the league, just going small and pushing the tempo would be deadly or if you're as athletic as the Hawks, just over power them physically and the Celtics will have a very difficult time winning. They are definitely a very beatable team but most the contenders are and do have major weaknesses, so it should be pretty interesting come playoff time.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 20, 2010 17:33:00 GMT -5
Hey, the Knicks roughed up and almost beat the Celtics in overtime by pushing the ball and going at them hard. They made them look like a mess and barely lost on a buzzer beater.
Maybe that is the method to beating the Celtic madness... make them play with you, not allow them to play how they are at their best.
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Post by Mac Miller on Jan 20, 2010 18:25:11 GMT -5
LeBron is such a vag. He should just do the dunk contest. Like they said last year, Michael used to let everyone know he was the best at everything. I think LeBron is just scared to lose, but even if he manages to blow it, he should still do it for the NBA and his fans. Nobody cares if Shannon Brown or Demar DeRozan has the better dunk, but if LeBron is simply in it, 50% more people will watch just to see what he does.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 20, 2010 18:49:57 GMT -5
yea I agree, I think part of him is scared to lose or to be shown up.
but the same goes for every other high profile player who skips it, even the ones who have been in it before.
Shawn Kemp did the thing like 4 freaking times and never won.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 20, 2010 21:25:36 GMT -5
Charlotte mother ing Bobcats
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 21, 2010 0:26:52 GMT -5
I got nothing...Celtics look awful, no defense, no heart, nothing. Even without KG this team is pretty talented, but losing to the Pistons?
They better man up before Friday, I didnt witness a loss last year and already saw one this year, I dont wanna see two
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Post by user9327 on Jan 21, 2010 3:01:01 GMT -5
The Pistons were playing on heart and pride cuz it was against Sheed though and he just got fined blah blah blah. I mean in that one highlight Ben Wallace... has he jumped that high for a block in recent years?
I know the Celtics are 4-8 right now or whatever it is since x-mas... I wouldn't worry so much about them losing in the regular season. Just hope they are healthy in the playoffs. If they are healthy and get their confidence back... look what Orlando did last year once they got rolling after looking pathetic.
I still think Boston and the Spurs are the only teams that have a chance in hell against LA, Dallas is creeping and Denver, the ballot is still out. Such a shame Denver doesn't have Camby anymore.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 21, 2010 13:16:17 GMT -5
NBA Scoop on Twitter has reported that the Celtics have reached out and contacted the Knicks about trading for Nate Robinson. Details were not released.
Interesting, I wonder who the Celtics would give up to get him? Nate is on a one year deal and they probably want him off the bench to supplement Pierce and Allen's scoring. He and Rondo would be an awfully quick backcourt to have on the floor.
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 21, 2010 13:47:57 GMT -5
There's no reason why they shouldn't beat the Blazers on Friday, Ralpho. They are very small which the the Celtics do struggle with, but there's no Roy, no center and only two second rounders, a streaky sophomore, old man Howard, Mr. Soft LA and a couple other guys who struggle with consistency. With KG coming back I would expect the C's to be energized and it would have to be a perfect storm for them actually lose that game.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 21, 2010 15:06:02 GMT -5
remember when the Nocioni trade rumbers to Boston came up and in this thread we said the contract was too big to take on. Then obviously this past week we discussed how they struggle against smaller team that push the tempo and the next day the Nate Robinson trade talk comes up.
zomg Danny Ainge reads dis thread!11
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 21, 2010 17:57:37 GMT -5
Mo Williams has a sprained shoulder and may miss up to 6 weeks of action... that would put him returning as late as the first week of March. Could this be the kiss of death for the Cavs?
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Post by user9327 on Jan 21, 2010 18:14:15 GMT -5
Danilo Gallinari can hit a wide open shot 9 times outta 10, more games than not. Just throwing that out there, concerning if Mo Williams absence will really matter.
Even with homecourt last year guys like Mo Williams were missing wide open shots. At the end of games, the ball is going to be in LeBron's hands. Whoever is out there better just play good defense and not screw up. Besides LeBron, there is not one player on Cleveland's roster that could start or consistently contribute (significantly) on LA, Boston, SA and Denver... maybe more.
Honestly, none of those guys on Cleveland even know how to create space for LeBron or move off the ball on offense... it's pathetic. There's no hustle in the 4th quarter at times, they just stand and watch.
Speaking of point guards... it seems Jason Kidd and Dirk really have found their peak chemistry. Kidd is putting up good numbers for his age.
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 21, 2010 19:14:49 GMT -5
I still think the Mavericks are the biggest threat to LA, but it's also a case of "they're going to get as far as Dirk can carry them." I hope they can move Josh for a legit starting 2 guard but that's kind of a fantasy as this point...
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 21, 2010 20:19:36 GMT -5
I still think the Mavericks are the biggest threat to LA, but it's also a case of "they're going to get as far as Dirk can carry them." I hope they can move Josh for a legit starting 2 guard but that's kind of a fantasy as this point... Coming from a Mavericks fan! I bought tickets for the Blazers game hoping to see Oden and Roy and all that fun stuff, and now I get.....Steve Blake? Ugh
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Post by user9327 on Jan 21, 2010 20:53:19 GMT -5
Well, considering Orlando and Boston are a mess, Denver looks weaker, Cleveland just has LeBron, and that Dallas beat LA this year (then was spanked bad in the next meeting)... Dallas has as good of a chance as anybody.
They are this year's Denver. It's coming together for them very nicely, playing at the top of their game all year.
Factor this; LA's undefeated in like every game they've played and lead by 9 points, 5 points or 1 point in the 4th quarter. The only close game I actually remember them losing was the Dallas game very early in the year. Dallas closed it out that night.
LA is scary because they are closing out games and going on 18-2 runs in the 3rd quarter, etc. Dallas really is the only other team that's looking strong, playing at the top of their game for most of the season. The Spurs have shown signs of life recently but we gotta see if they are up for a run in May.
The past few seasons it seems like the Eastern Conference has a low seed team rough up a high seed but not beat them. I think this year a team like the Bobcats (who are like 8 games over .500 since S. Jackson arrived) or the Knicks if they don't fall off (50/50 chance of that) may be able to knock off one of these teams that are looking soft right now like Orlando or Boston. I only say this because soft teams in the regular season usually have a heart/hustle/chemistry issue that is going to look like a candle in the sun next some young team that wants it bad and has nothing to lose. The Bobcats are built for the Eastern playoffs and have the best roster out of all of these teams for a playoff GAME, Oklahoma City has the best roster of the young teams for a playoff series. But I think OKC isn't ready to shake up the West, but who knows?
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Post by spreedom8 on Jan 21, 2010 23:16:28 GMT -5
I still think the Mavericks are the biggest threat to LA, but it's also a case of "they're going to get as far as Dirk can carry them." I hope they can move Josh for a legit starting 2 guard but that's kind of a fantasy as this point... Coming from a Mavericks fan! Not sure what you're trying to do with that (do you want me to make a comment every time you talk about the Celtics?), but I did mean in the West, though I wouldn't even say there's a team out East (other than athletic teams like ATL and ORL) that Dallas wouldn't beat in a 7-game series if it started today. And honestly, I think Garnett is pretty much done as an elite player so I wouldn't even say the Cs are better than Dallas with him. I definitely think the Mavs need to get more athletic though. Hence why I said they need to upgrade the two-spot.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 21, 2010 23:35:57 GMT -5
I think the Celtics suck balls right now, if you want to make a comment by all means go ahead. They have weaknesses, the Hawks have shown the world they have but so all the elite teams right now but again....
I have said it many many times, you can not tell who is going to win it all in January there is still the trading deadline and the buy outs.
And yes I dont count beating the Celtics without Garnett as something you can brag about, they play again and we will see then BUT it doesnt matter, because teams like the Spurs, Celtics, older teams will rest guys for the playoffs.
Your predictions about Dallas and mine about Boston are taken with a grain of salt because of our allegiances, frankly I dont think Dallas is all that great and you dont think the Celtics are either.
Theres a long way to go, I am not worried. All I am worried about is that I see a Garnett-less Celtics team suck balls tomorrow night in my way too expensive seats that I should have never bought
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Post by extreme on Jan 22, 2010 12:58:55 GMT -5
Lol @ ai for all star game starter an tmac for almost getting a starting spot.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 22, 2010 16:55:38 GMT -5
I think the Celtics suck balls right now, if you want to make a comment by all means go ahead. They have weaknesses, the Hawks have shown the world they have but so all the elite teams right now but again.... I have said it many many times, you can not tell who is going to win it all in January there is still the trading deadline and the buy outs. And yes I dont count beating the Celtics without Garnett as something you can brag about, they play again and we will see then BUT it doesnt matter, because teams like the Spurs, Celtics, older teams will rest guys for the playoffs. Your predictions about Dallas and mine about Boston are taken with a grain of salt because of our allegiances, frankly I dont think Dallas is all that great and you dont think the Celtics are either. Theres a long way to go, I am not worried. All I am worried about is that I see a Garnett-less Celtics team suck balls tomorrow night in my way too expensive seats that I should have never bought Keep your eye on Dallas in the highlights, there definitely is something different about them this year as opposed to years past. Dallas is giving a better result for their defensive effort this year. Just saying Dirk and Kidd have had some monster weeks. It feels different this year because of the high level those guys are playing at, but also Shawn Marion and Drew Gooden are great role players/supporting cast. When you factor Marion at SF and some of the size they have on the roster, they have the pieces they just have to get it done. They could use another guard who could create his own shot, but so can nearly every playoff contender. Don't worry about those tickets, just enjoy that game. You get to check out Lamarcus Aldridge, who I think has the potential. I'd enjoy seeing him in person, to be able to check out how athletic and strong he is, his fundamentals, just observe him. Then you got Rudy who will probably play some. Martell Webster just had some great games in the last 2 weeks, I'd be interested in seeing his game in person, what he does. You are still seeing Rondo, Pierce and get to just watch Ray Allen shoot jumpers in warm up's. There's plenty to still see to get your money's worth. Watch Rondo in warm up's too. A few years back I saw Golden State vs Boston, no KG obviously. It was the Ricky Davis Paul Pierce days. Al Jefferson played, I really watched him and learned a lot about what I didn't like about his game. Baron Davis played for Golden State, I really saw how strong he was going to the hole as a point guard. I also saw 4 sick dunks between Ricky Davis and Jason Richardson, 2 were alley's. In person I really notice guys's first step, hands on defense, attention off the ball, positioning and timing on rebounds. You are a few feet away from being out there, it really puts into perspective how good these guys are but how they are not perfect either.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 22, 2010 23:30:00 GMT -5
I had no idea where my tickets were...didnt even look....they turned out to be 2 rows behind the basket....right next to the Celtics owner and the players wives. The seats were insane, only for 120$ too.
A bit of obstructed view though, but you can actually hear Rasheed bitch at the refs!
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