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Post by T R W on Nov 2, 2009 11:29:11 GMT -5
I don't think that is too bad of a deal for Rondo.
I can't wait for LeBron to come to Atlanta after this season.
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Post by spreedom8 on Nov 2, 2009 16:08:01 GMT -5
Rondo's contract is very good value for him, but probably slightly above market value for a player of his talents. Consider the approximate yearly salaries on the contracts for the following PGs who are of comparable skill/age to Rondo:
Mo Williams: $9M Monta Ellis: $11M Devin Harris: $8.75M Jameer Nelson: $8.1M Jose Calderon: $9.5M
I think it's pretty fair to say that those guys are all in the same tier as far as point guards are concerned. D-Will and Chris Paul are definitely head and shoulders above the rest, and are certainly paid as such. But considering those other deals I listed were signed when the NBA appeared unaffected by the recent recession, that sounds like a steep price to pay for a point guard that can't really shoot. He doesn't really have to, but I kinda wonder where the Celts will be in 2012 or 2013 when they have his huge deal on the books and some if not all of the Big 3 are retired or completely used up. Can Rondo carry the offensive burden as a leader on that team? If so, that contract is probably okay value. But if he can't, that's going to be an albatross (especially considering Devin Harris will be on the Nets for $8.5M that year). Rondo is going to have to continue to play at his current level for the contract to be a good value. But to me, that remains to be seen.
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Post by Jamal on Nov 2, 2009 17:28:55 GMT -5
Lets see if the Grizzlies get any better with A.I.
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Post by spreedom8 on Nov 2, 2009 17:32:11 GMT -5
Lets see if the Grizzlies get any better with A.I. I'll set the Over-Under.... 46.5 losses. Who's in??
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Post by LAXxxx305 on Nov 2, 2009 17:39:39 GMT -5
Lets see if the Grizzlies get any better with A.I. I'll set the Over-Under.... 46.5 losses. Who's in?? i'd agree
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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2009 18:21:52 GMT -5
Rondo apparently agreed to an extension with the Cs with a 5yr/$55M contract that will be almost entirely guaranteed.... Which is a great deal considering you look at what Aldridge and Barngani got...and who they both are How can you compare big men with transferable value to any team... to a point guard? I think Rondo just got away with highway robbery. The Celtics could plug (place any point guard with half a brain here) into their rotation and they're still just as good of a team. For further explanation just see how Sam Cassell or Eddie House always played in the 4th when it matters. All that money for that? Really? So Eddie House can come mop up later? I also, wouldn't have paid Rondo a damn thing until there was another title. Although I guess they were already overpaying because Rondo thinks he's a crucial part of the first one. Now really, who the hell was going to sign him with the current FA classes, economic state, for that money/years? The Celtics, that's who. Because he's got them by the balls, or so both sides must have thought. 5 years is a long time to be wrapped up with him as your point guard. The stupidity of this move will show after the big 3 break up and Rondo's one of their top 2 players.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2009 18:23:58 GMT -5
Lets see if the Grizzlies get any better with A.I. I'll set the Over-Under.... 46.5 losses. Who's in?? You do realize you just said the Grizzles have a shot at a playoff push, right?
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Post by spreedom8 on Nov 2, 2009 19:13:21 GMT -5
Not if they lose 46 games... They're not in the East.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2009 19:16:59 GMT -5
my fault i mis-read and thought you meant wins
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Post by spreedom8 on Nov 2, 2009 19:21:52 GMT -5
Happens. I will literally shave my head and eat all of my hair if the Grizzlies make the playoffs.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2009 19:23:45 GMT -5
aren't you of asian decent as well?
that's some thick hair...
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Post by spreedom8 on Nov 2, 2009 19:29:27 GMT -5
Nope, I'm Swedish. Still thick-ass hair though.
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Post by extreme on Nov 2, 2009 19:30:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't put the Grizzlies out too soon. They got a decent starting team with Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol (who is getting a lot better), OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay and now A.I as a possible 6th man. I would take the grizzlies over the Bucks anyday. The Bucks have no one really worth mentioning except for Bogut and Redd who are doing less than stellar, and Brandon Jennings who is pretty good.
And Knicker What, I'm sure you are happy with Gallinari's performance. I will be shocked if he doesn't get a starting spot this season. As for Nate Robinson though, he needs to get his poop together.
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Post by spreedom8 on Nov 2, 2009 20:07:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't put the Grizzlies out too soon. They got a decent starting team with Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol (who is getting a lot better), OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay and now A.I as a possible 6th man. I would take the grizzlies over the Bucks anyday. The Bucks have no one really worth mentioning except for Bogut and Redd who are doing less than stellar, and Brandon Jennings who is pretty good. And Knicker What, I'm sure you are happy with Gallinari's performance. I will be shocked if he doesn't get a starting spot this season. As for Nate Robinson though, he needs to get his poop together. I'd take literally any roster in the NBA over the Bucks' roster. Do they have any above average players other than Redd, Jennings, and the big Australian goof? I live in Madison and I don't even know his name. And he's still owed like $50M! They are absolutely horrible at every single position. The Grizzlies have arguably the most talented top 5 of any team in the NBA. I would definitely say that. But they're all very selfish players. If they would play together, work on D, and pass the ball, they could win 65 games. So saying they're a better roster than Milwaukee isn't exactly saying a whole lot. Every member of the starting 5 besides Gasol is ridiculously selfish and lacking in basketball IQ.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2009 22:00:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't put the Grizzlies out too soon. They got a decent starting team with Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol (who is getting a lot better), OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay and now A.I as a possible 6th man. I would take the grizzlies over the Bucks anyday. The Bucks have no one really worth mentioning except for Bogut and Redd who are doing less than stellar, and Brandon Jennings who is pretty good. And Knicker What, I'm sure you are happy with Gallinari's performance. I will be shocked if he doesn't get a starting spot this season. As for Nate Robinson though, he needs to get his poop together. He's already got the starting spot and had it. The night he hit 8 three's, he started and Harrington had his 42 points off the bench. Beat Nate's Franchise record for most points without starting, by 1. Galinari will start getting more attention from defenses and that should help guys like David Lee. If Eddy Curry had his crap together, this would be an ideal situation for him. Too bad he's a lazy piece of crap. Overall though, no, I don't expect this to change the Knicks that much. If Galinari can keep hitting three's, it's going to be another plus for LeBron if he comes here. Lee, Nate, Harrington, Galinari, Toney Douglas... all could easily still be on the roster AFTER signing LeBron and another top tier free agent. I don't give a crap what speculation others are spewing, that trumps anything the Nets and Cavs can offer in terms of "rebuilding." Especially considering the Nets, right now, are built completely the opposite of how LeBron likes to play. They have a possession point guard and a bunch of big stiffs in the middle of the lane. Add in two young guards that are drive the lane first players. LeBron wants to drive and kick and be helped on defense. Al Harrington, Galinari, David Lee, Nate... all thrive off spot up jumpers/three's/secondary scoring. Defense is another story, but I'd still take Lee on defense over anybody the Nets have except Brook Lopez.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2009 22:17:49 GMT -5
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Nov 3, 2009 0:01:06 GMT -5
How bout dem Rockets, suck it Jazz
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Post by user9327 on Nov 3, 2009 14:52:27 GMT -5
I just read that Rondo's trash talk after starting the verbal spat with Chris Paul the other night was that "he has a ring and you'll never have one." That's what Rajon Rondo, of all people, was saying to Chris Paul, of all people.
WTF is this guy on? Taunting Chris Paul with the ring he didn't even have much to do with winning? I could see if the Celtics won another one next year when Garnett was injured. But with this guy having career nights, they barely beat a JV Bulls team and that was it.
55 million, for a guy that doesn't even run set plays and calls out the best point guard since Jason Kidd.
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Post by extreme on Nov 3, 2009 15:52:38 GMT -5
I just read that Rondo's trash talk after starting the verbal spat with Chris Paul the other night was that "he has a ring and you'll never have one." That's what Rajon Rondo, of all people, was saying to Chris Paul, of all people. WTF is this guy on? Taunting Chris Paul with the ring he didn't even have much to do with winning? I could see if the Celtics won another one next year when Garnett was injured. But with this guy having career nights, they barely beat a JV Bulls team and that was it. 55 million, for a guy that doesn't even run set plays and calls out the best point guard since Jason Kidd. lol. That is like a little spoiled kid saying that dad bought him the most expensive bike and that a poor kid will never get one. Replace the spoiled kid with rondo, the dad with Garnett, Pierce, and Allen, the bike with a world championship and the poor kid as cp3.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Nov 3, 2009 16:04:25 GMT -5
People bash Rondo for not speaking or being too introverted, I had no idea he talked trash, what a goof.
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