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Post by Warheart on Nov 30, 2009 2:10:11 GMT -5
Did Goldberg kick him in the head again? that's what i'm saying. |
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Post by cjskittles4 on Nov 30, 2009 2:23:46 GMT -5
OK seriously Is Bret Hart, one of the most successful wrestlers in the past decades, not allowed to have an opinion on who he likes and deems "The Best In The World" So what if it's Melina, that's his opinion and we, who have never laced up a pair of wrestling boots, should not scold him and make ridiculous jokes about concussions and what not because Bret Hart of all people thinks so. Is she the Best in the world, NO, but that's my opinion and yours too, but atleast allow another human being to have an opinion. So what if we haven't wrestled? I don't see how that makes any difference. Well, its just another example of the IWC trying to act like they know everything. Like they know what's good and that the opinion of someone like Bret Hart is laughable without even giving it atleast a proper amount of respect. The Undertaker once said "they forget that they're just fans, and that's it" We're just fans and the fact that a wrestler who participated in the wrestling industry, who has wrestled wrestlers should not have their opinion belittled in such a way by a bunch of common men sitting at their computer screen. That IMO makes a huge difference. We can judge ourselves who is and who isn't good but at least give another man's opinion a proper amount of respect. Especially someone who has participated in the wrestling business. |
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Post by King Silva on Nov 30, 2009 2:26:06 GMT -5
I saw this topic first on another forum. Kinda shocking since he choose her over his own niece but I guess he really enjoys her. I don't think he really means she is the best wrestler male or female in the world but it does sound crazy. .
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 30, 2009 2:29:01 GMT -5
So what if we haven't wrestled? I don't see how that makes any difference. Well, its just another example of the IWC trying to act like they know everything. Like they know what's good and that the opinion of someone like Bret Hart is laughable without even giving it atleast a proper amount of respect. The Undertaker once said "they forget that they're just fans, and that's it" We're just fans and the fact that a wrestler who participated in the wrestling industry, who has wrestled wrestlers should not have their opinion belittled in such a way by a bunch of common men sitting at their computer screen. That IMO makes a huge difference. We can judge ourselves who is and who isn't good but at least give another man's opinion a proper amount of respect. Especially someone who has participated in the wrestling business. Yeah we're just fans. But the wrestlers can't buy tickets to see themselves wrestle....so who we find entertaining is a hell of a lot more important than who they think is "the best" when it's all scripted and choreographed anyway. |
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Post by cjskittles4 on Nov 30, 2009 2:36:09 GMT -5
Well, its just another example of the IWC trying to act like they know everything. Like they know what's good and that the opinion of someone like Bret Hart is laughable without even giving it atleast a proper amount of respect. The Undertaker once said "they forget that they're just fans, and that's it" We're just fans and the fact that a wrestler who participated in the wrestling industry, who has wrestled wrestlers should not have their opinion belittled in such a way by a bunch of common men sitting at their computer screen. That IMO makes a huge difference. We can judge ourselves who is and who isn't good but at least give another man's opinion a proper amount of respect. Especially someone who has participated in the wrestling business. Yeah we're just fans. But the wrestlers can't buy tickets to see themselves wrestle....so who we find entertaining is a hell of a lot more important than who they think is "the best" when it's all scripted and choreographed anyway. You're totally right in that aspect. I, however was just talking about the total disrespect of his opinion weather it be agreed upon or not. But i guess I'm in a losing battle anyway because the IWC will always base judgment as if their own opinion is fact. Sorry for the rant but the sarcasm, and just downright negative feedback really gets me angry at times. |
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Post by Mizz Lola on Nov 30, 2009 2:38:52 GMT -5
Yeah we're just fans. But the wrestlers can't buy tickets to see themselves wrestle....so who we find entertaining is a hell of a lot more important than who they think is "the best" when it's all scripted and choreographed anyway. You're totally right in that aspect. I, however was just talking about the total disrespect of his opinion weather it be agreed upon or not. But i guess I'm in a losing battle anyway because the IWC will always base judgment as if their own opinion is fact. Sorry for the rant but the sarcasm, and just downright negative feedback really gets me angry at times. I think it is pretty obvious that his opinion is not exactly correct. There's plenty of women out there who wrestle at a better level than she does. You cannot deny that there's plenty of women in Japan and the Indies who would definitely love to challenge Mr. Hart's opinion. In fact, I am pretty sure Natalya would like to challenge this. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 30, 2009 2:42:06 GMT -5
Yeah we're just fans. But the wrestlers can't buy tickets to see themselves wrestle....so who we find entertaining is a hell of a lot more important than who they think is "the best" when it's all scripted and choreographed anyway. You're totally right in that aspect. I, however was just talking about the total disrespect of his opinion weather it be agreed upon or not. But i guess I'm in a losing battle anyway because the IWC will always base judgment as if their own opinion is fact. Sorry for the rant but the sarcasm, and just downright negative feedback really gets me angry at times. No, you have the right to your opinion as does Bret Hart.....but opinions can also be FALSE, and when one's opinion is proven to be false they shouldn't continue to attempt to get everyone to buy into it. I can sit here and say I think Jackie Gayda is the best wrestler in the history of the business in my opinion....and I would be WRONG. Bret could have said he is ENTERTAINED by Melina more than any other wrestler in the world. But to sit there and act like Melina is the best wrestler in the world is an incorrect statement no matter how long somebody has wrestled or what their opinion is. Opinion is one thing...but talent has to count for something as well. And anybody who's watched WWE knows Melina is not good. She looks halfway decent in the 39 pounds of makeup and skin tight outfits they give her, and based on what everyone's said apparently Bret Hart has had sex with her....that's where his "opinion" came from, not her matches. |
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Post by cjskittles4 on Nov 30, 2009 2:58:53 GMT -5
You're totally right in that aspect. I, however was just talking about the total disrespect of his opinion weather it be agreed upon or not. But i guess I'm in a losing battle anyway because the IWC will always base judgment as if their own opinion is fact. Sorry for the rant but the sarcasm, and just downright negative feedback really gets me angry at times. No, you have the right to your opinion as does Bret Hart.....but opinions can also be FALSE, and when one's opinion is proven to be false they shouldn't continue to attempt to get everyone to buy into it. I can sit here and say I think Jackie Gayda is the best wrestler in the history of the business in my opinion....and I would be WRONG. Bret could have said he is ENTERTAINED by Melina more than any other wrestler in the world. But to sit there and act like Melina is the best wrestler in the world is an incorrect statement no matter how long somebody has wrestled or what their opinion is. Opinion is one thing...but talent has to count for something as well. And anybody who's watched WWE knows Melina is not good. She looks halfway decent in the 39 pounds of makeup and skin tight outfits they give her, and based on what everyone's said apparently Bret Hart has had sex with her....that's where his "opinion" came from, not her matches. I see what you mean, but regardless if he has slept with her or not, we cant necessarily say where his "opinion" came from. We don't know him personally enough to ask him such a thing. However, I don't find Melina that terrible. Compared to what's out there she does seem minor league as far as wrestling is concerned. But she is not awful IMO. And she's not that bad looking either but that's just me. She's average, solid, maybe even good but I don't find her awful in the least bit. |
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Post by Mirror Images on Nov 30, 2009 9:04:44 GMT -5
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Post by Mizz Lola on Nov 30, 2009 9:07:28 GMT -5
I think Brets just trying to get into her pants Again...we've already established he's been there already and now he would like to come back |
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Post by Mark on Nov 30, 2009 10:14:37 GMT -5
CHRIS JERICHO ISNT THE BEST IN THE WORLD... every person is the best in the World at what he or she does No two people do exactly the same thing ...No, he actually is. mope youre wrong |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 30, 2009 10:20:14 GMT -5
Her match with McCool a few months ago was fantastic, but I'm not so sure about "Best in the World".
Still love Bret, though!
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Post by jfinnomore on Nov 30, 2009 12:08:25 GMT -5
So what if we haven't wrestled? I don't see how that makes any difference. Well, its just another example of the IWC trying to act like they know everything. Like they know what's good and that the opinion of someone like Bret Hart is laughable without even giving it atleast a proper amount of respect. The Undertaker once said "they forget that they're just fans, and that's it" We're just fans and the fact that a wrestler who participated in the wrestling industry, who has wrestled wrestlers should not have their opinion belittled in such a way by a bunch of common men sitting at their computer screen. That IMO makes a huge difference. We can judge ourselves who is and who isn't good but at least give another man's opinion a proper amount of respect. Especially someone who has participated in the wrestling business. Terrible logic, thats like saying since I've never been in a band I should respect say Zach Wyldes opinion on a band more so than my own cause he's been in the business. I know what I like and I don't need to "lace up boots" to know Melina is far from the best in the world. |
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Post by June on Nov 30, 2009 12:17:39 GMT -5
It's his opinion that she is the best in the world and it's not really all that outlandish coming from a man that considered himself "the best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be" now that is a delusional comment.
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Post by chippychipotle on Nov 30, 2009 13:48:54 GMT -5
Bret's just being Bret.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Nov 30, 2009 13:49:38 GMT -5
It's time to play Bret's favorite game, "6 Degrees of the Montreal Screwjob." This serious lapse in judgement never would have happened if Bret had never had his stroke. Which never would've happened if Bret hadn't gotten that serious concussion. Which never would've happened if Goldberg hadn't kicked Bret in the head. Which never would've happened if Bret hadn't gone to WCW. Which never would've happened if not for Montreal. HA! 5 degrees! The Wrestlemania 3 attendance was actually around 78,000. not the 93173 that some would want the sheeple to perceive. |
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Post by Mizz Lola on Nov 30, 2009 15:40:30 GMT -5
It's his opinion that she is the best in the world and it's not really all that outlandish coming from a man that considered himself "the best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be" now that is a delusional comment. Um there's a difference between declaring things in kayfabe and declaring things in non-kayfabe |
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Post by June on Nov 30, 2009 15:45:48 GMT -5
It's his opinion that she is the best in the world and it's not really all that outlandish coming from a man that considered himself "the best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be" now that is a delusional comment. Um there's a difference between declaring things in kayfabe and declaring things in non-kayfabe Um nobody in wrestling history took his on-screen character as seriously as Bret Hart. Everyone but you knows that Bret believes he is the greatest of all time, at least everyone but you. |
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Post by Mizz Lola on Nov 30, 2009 15:48:21 GMT -5
Um there's a difference between declaring things in kayfabe and declaring things in non-kayfabe Um nobody in wrestling history took his on-screen character as seriously as Bret Hart. Everyone but you knows that Bret believes he is the greatest of all time, at least everyone but you. Um yeah just in case you aren't aware...a lot of wrestlers take their on screen character that serious.  |
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Post by June on Nov 30, 2009 16:08:12 GMT -5
Um nobody in wrestling history took his on-screen character as seriously as Bret Hart. Everyone but you knows that Bret believes he is the greatest of all time, at least everyone but you. Um yeah just in case you aren't aware...a lot of wrestlers take their on screen character that serious. Um yeah I guess you are not that aware of how Bret Hart views himself, but then again you do not strike me as the perceptive type. |
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