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Post by The Madness on Dec 31, 2009 11:15:40 GMT -5
Personally, I think this is really stupid. Forone, it undermines Mattels sales. Well, how can it undermine Mattel's sales when Mattel is the one selling it? Even if the figures are less than $10 each, they're still being sold for well above cost. You can be sure that Mattel is turning a good profit.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 11:17:43 GMT -5
OF Course Mattel is turning in profit , Look at how many people are looking for their product
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Post by thereisnoart on Dec 31, 2009 11:24:08 GMT -5
Personally, I think this is really stupid. Forone, it undermines Mattels sales. Second, It takes away the fun of the hunt. I could see this set maybe down the rod like in the summer but now? when you are releasing single cards? Dumb marketing by mattel. Already they're taking the fun out of the collecting with re-releases of two packs and stuff. I hope this is not an on going trend with them. While its good for the sonsumers eventually this stuff is gonna be cluttering the shelves. Toys R' Us didn't just arbitrarily decide to offer a box set, they did so with the cooperation of Mattel. They wouldn't go along with something like that if they were worried about it undermining their sales. Actually, this will ADD to their sales in a couple of ways: 1) True collectors will pick this up IN ADDITION to the singles because it's an exclusive item (rarer) and an attractive display piece commemorating the launch of the WWE line. 2) The value proposition of getting the whole line for $10+ cheaper will convince some people who were only going to buy two or three of the basics to buy this instead, thus spending more money. 3) The money they save in shipping and packaging for this one unit compared to six separate ones will make up for any revenue lost on people who were going to buy all six separately, but get this instead. 4) Usually, companies pay some kind of fee for exclusives like these. TRU most likely paid Mattel to offer something like this exclusively in their store to attract people interested in the new line to buy from THEM instead of, say, Target or Wal-Mart. People who come to TRU for this might also pick up something else they hadn't planned on buying (or planned on buying somewhere else). This isn't the sign of some "disturbing trend of re-releases". It's not like Mattel scrapped six other, different figures to offer this. If anything, it adds to the hunt as some will want to hunt one of these down. It makes a lot of sense for everyone involved to offer something like this: for Mattel, TRU, collectors, and average consumers.
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Post by The Madness on Dec 31, 2009 11:26:25 GMT -5
Wow, thereisnoart, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
I'm hoping my TRU carries this set. I was one of those who probably wasn't going to pick up the whole set (not much of a Batista fan), but I'll spring for this. Looks like it comes with the stands, too.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 11:28:05 GMT -5
I wouldnt be able to afford this either way but if they had a box set of elites i would go nuts to get it
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Post by deskjet on Dec 31, 2009 11:50:45 GMT -5
Personally, I think this is really stupid. Forone, it undermines Mattels sales. Second, It takes away the fun of the hunt. I could see this set maybe down the rod like in the summer but now? when you are releasing single cards? Dumb marketing by mattel. Already they're taking the fun out of the collecting with re-releases of two packs and stuff. I hope this is not an on going trend with them. While its good for the sonsumers eventually this stuff is gonna be cluttering the shelves. Toys R' Us didn't just arbitrarily decide to offer a box set, they did so with the cooperation of Mattel. They wouldn't go along with something like that if they were worried about it undermining their sales. Actually, this will ADD to their sales in a couple of ways: 1) True collectors will pick this up IN ADDITION to the singles because it's an exclusive item (rarer) and an attractive display piece commemorating the launch of the WWE line. 2) The value proposition of getting the whole line for $10+ cheaper will convince some people who were only going to buy two or three of the basics to buy this instead, thus spending more money. 3) The money they save in shipping and packaging for this one unit compared to six separate ones will make up for any revenue lost on people who were going to buy all six separately, but get this instead. 4) Usually, companies pay some kind of fee for exclusives like these. TRU most likely paid Mattel to offer something like this exclusively in their store to attract people interested in the new line to buy from THEM instead of, say, Target or Wal-Mart. People who come to TRU for this might also pick up something else they hadn't planned on buying (or planned on buying somewhere else). This isn't the sign of some "disturbing trend of re-releases". It's not like Mattel scrapped six other, different figures to offer this. If anything, it adds to the hunt as some will want to hunt one of these down. It makes a lot of sense for everyone involved to offer something like this: for Mattel, TRU, collectors, and average consumers. I disagree. I also didnt say Tru undermined the sale, Mattel undermines their own sales with this. I know exactly the reason they did it, I just thought it was too early. And if you want it to really be more collectible, makes some variations. Throw in a bitsta with white trunks and cena with green arms bands. How bought a black attire kofi. Now that woulda been more collectible and probably more profitable to Mattel in the long run. If i walk in the aisle and see a 6 pack and six separate figs Im going for the cheaper deal///now how is that helping them make money? Morevoer, what if i already bought and opened my Big show, Bourne and cena? Now what do i do? What's the purpose of buying this set just to get 3 more figures. Im essentially wasting 20 bucks. Futhtermore, the whole thing with them saving on shipping is inaccurate. Big toy companies have designated rates with retailers so they dont have to file threw all that red tape of shipping costs and can get the product out to the store faster. Can you imagine Mattle trying to budget their shipping costs in to every item they ship out all over the world. It would be impossible and a huge mess to sort through. I woulda left well enough alone, throw in some variants then put out wave 2 before making a set like this. Jakks rarely put boxed sets out this close to new figures and when they did, it usually had some variation to it to make it both more collectible and worth the pick up. Just is pretty senseless to me. And while admirable of Mattel to think of products being reaily availble to consumers, let's not do too much too soon cause then you're gonna have stuff not moving, then guess what, your gonna lose money...again
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 11:53:08 GMT -5
i guess i can understand your view of things
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Post by Micro on Dec 31, 2009 13:49:23 GMT -5
Well, I like the box set. I'm not really into the thrill of the hunt so this saves me time and money. I'm mostly thinking of getting all the Elites, with only an occasional Basic here and there, but this set makes me want to get the entire series 1. Thanks for posting this nice find!
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 13:50:13 GMT -5
its a manly thing to hunt down what you want
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Post by xtremebadass on Dec 31, 2009 13:52:29 GMT -5
I wasn't going to get Batista, but if I can get him for free (10 bucks for the other 5 figures) that would be GREAT
Good job Mattel
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 14:07:58 GMT -5
Agreed Mattel is the Ish
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Post by Terrys Wrestling Figures on Dec 31, 2009 15:46:46 GMT -5
People complain when they can't find a set or figures in a set & they have to pay scalper prices on the internet then something like this comes out which could mean the singles set will be on the peg & easier to find at store prices rather then scalper prices.
Its win win to me as if i was having trouble finding the set in singles & found this i'd buy it, even if i had a coupe from the set already i'd buy it to have the figure then & there rather then looking around & pos losing out.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 15:52:02 GMT -5
i hate scalpers
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Post by BuckDenaro7: Elite Trader on Dec 31, 2009 15:58:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, thats really cool. do you think it will be done like that for all sets
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 16:02:08 GMT -5
i hope so
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Post by captaincavendish on Dec 31, 2009 16:04:51 GMT -5
OF Course Mattel is turning in profit , Look at how many people are looking for their product Well, let me teach you a thing or two about business and profit and how a company makes money. Just because a lot of people are looking forward to a product does not mean that it's going to turn a profit and it certainly has yet to turn a profit yet seeing as how it's not been universally available. The first step is pumping cash into the production of the toys, each figure inside of a package cost's the company a certain ammount of money to produce and ship to retail locations. Retail locations throughout the United States will order a certain ammount of toys at a huge discount from the MFGR and each SKU (barcode) is placed on store shelves for purchase. Usually (and this sometimes changes) after the retailer sells a certain dollar amount worth of merchandise from that series of toys or whatnot a dollar % is put aside as profit and more proceeds from that profit is given to the MFGR (Mattel or whoever makes the toys). To put it simply, in order make a profit you have to make more money than it cost you to stock the merchandise, anything after that dollar ammount = profit and then that profit is split between retailer and MFGR for them to invest or bank as they please.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 16:15:19 GMT -5
Thanks but ive taken Econ in high school and i did very well i know what supply and demand is as well as the cost of producing the materials and how you make money from a Economic stand point you have to make sure that the product will be bought and you make more money then you put out that is profit
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Post by captaincavendish on Dec 31, 2009 16:21:53 GMT -5
Thanks but ive taken Econ in high school and i did very well i know what supply and demand is as well as the cost of producing the materials and how you make money from a Economic stand point you have to make sure that the product will be bought and you make more money then you put out that is profit I'm sorry, but I couldn't make out what you said out of the lack of punctuation, you know, periods and comma's.....stuff like that. After re-reading your post I can say you are somewhat right. "Supply and Demand" is only successfull if people are buying, I'm sure they will make a profit but just because it's Mattel/WWE does not automaticly mean they will see any kind of profit alone, it's all up to collectors and children to make the choice to purchase these figures. If nobody outside of wrestling figure collectors are buying then Mattel is in trouble, the profit will rely on how many people (parent, children) will purchase these toys. It may be tough at first because a parent shopping TRU with their kid may come across these toys and then the kid may ask for a Cena figure and then parent could respond with, "Well you have 2 other John Cena's already!". The kid isn't going to realize that one is a Mattel and his other two are a Jakks, nor will his/her parent.
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Dec 31, 2009 16:25:38 GMT -5
thats true, but it also depends on the consumer and how much they purchase
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 31, 2009 17:55:28 GMT -5
i seen that on paper that tru would have a 6 pack..never seen it so thanks for pics. im getting sick already of all there rereleases..wheres the new faces? New faces? We havent even gotten the first wave released. Geesh! Hold the horses man. Not everyone is as lucky as you and has encountered Mattel.
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